NFT: 3-0-0 Sharks @ 3-0-0 Islanders pre-game discussion

timing for an Islanders game day thread. LOL.

Not sure if you noticed, during the Rangers game, Boychuk turned over the puck then skated towards the Rangers player who got the puck and checked him. I liked how he recognized his error and took it out on the opposing player. What a difference between him and MacDonald.

Let's win another.

with osgood in goal. winning something like 10 of the first 11

after deHaan comes back. To completely make the jump serious playoff contender, this team must allow it's best players to skate, regardless of favors, salary, and options.

Reinhart is already better than Strait and Donovan, with a high ceiling he has not even come close to reaching.

Just play Reinhart.

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after deHaan comes back. To completely make the jump serious playoff contender, this team must allow it's best players to skate, regardless of favors, salary, and options. Reinhart is already better than Strait and Donovan, with a high ceiling he has not even come close to reaching. Just play Reinhart.

I actually disagree a bit. I think Reinhart would really benefit 25+ AHL minutes a night playing with Pulock. The game just looks too fast for him.

Staple tweeted that Viznivsky skated today so he might be ready to return in a week or two. CdH skating today but no word yet on his status tonight.

Mike!! Looks like a big crowd for tonight.

Less than 300 tickets left on stubhub for the game tonight. I'm not sure if it's a nightly thing, but before the puck drops everybody lights up their phone.. it's a cool thing. Come charged lol


Marbles.. the Reinhart thing depends on Visnovsky. If it's a straight swap : dehaan for Strait.. well, that's one thing. But it's eventually dehaan/viz for Strait and.. ?? It almost has to be Reinhart.

It's better he's a ice time leader in the AHL than an NHL scratch.

I think Reinhart would do fine all season up here, but he's really an odd man out at this point.

they interviewed Reinharts dad. He said the kid knows the game and is more than prepared. He needs game experience on the NHL level. By the time playoffs roll around the kid would be solid. Makes no sense to send him down.

Opening night he looked to be ok but the next 2 games he along with strait were absolutely awful. He is extremely slow. He is clearly not ready. Pulock was clearly the better option in camp and preseason but they use the excuse that the injury stopped him from making it. As much as I hate Donovan, I'd like to see him get in there with DeHaan and see how it goes

said it's same forwards tonight and a decision will be made close to game time regarding CdH. Even if CdH doesn't play tonight, it looks like he'll be ready to go for Pitt on Sat.

Knowing the game and being able to execute are two different things. He knows where he needs to be but he has to get used to the speed difference. Also playing with Strait and/or Donovan is not going to help his development because both are frequently out of position chasing the puck leaving Reinhart hung out to dry. Getting deHaan back will help but every healthy scratch would need to clear waivers to get sent to Bridgeport. Reinhart can go down without waivers. Personally I would not care about losing Boulton because we have enough "tough guys" in the minor if an enforcer was needed, but I do believe someone would claim Donovan if exposed

yes he did look slow but the game isn't going to slow down for him if in Bridgeport. Regardless I don't want him having a Bailey type career so whatever is best for him.
Having deHaan in the line up is great. You know that feeling you have when Boychuk and Leddy are on the ice and you know that feeling when Strait is on the ice. Well, deHaan is closer to having the Boychuk/ Leddy feeling.

so what do you propose now that dehaan is back and Viz is already skating.. when Viz comes back:

Leddy/Boychuck
dehaan/hamonic
Hickey/Visnovsky

where does Reinhart play? You want him up here getting experience, but you're banking on someone being injured. Yes, Viz is old but you can't bank on him being hurt.

Donovan is the perfect extra dman.

For him in bridgeport. He's gone from playing vs kids straight to playing vs men. Thats a huge jump. Nobody thinks he sucks but he just needs some seasoning vs other men, a step below the NHL

I will reluctantly be on board. But I do not want to see him go down just to get Donovan in the lineup.

Maybe I am talking gibberish because I do not know how to deal with depth on defense has some depth, which is a welcome

remember that Reinart played in juniors last year, so he really hasn't had a lot of time to even adjust to AHL speed, much less NHL.

This is why having depth is so important. In previous years, we'd be forced to have Reinart learn on the job because he didn't have any other options. Now, since we have quality depth, we can let Reinart get some more seasoning and bring him up when injuries occur later in the year, or to replace Viz next season.

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Maybe I am talking gibberish because I do not know how to deal with depth on defense has some depth, which is a welcome

We're not used to having actual depth! It's a good problem to have!

I probably am talking gibberish because I am so unaccustomed to real depth defensively.

I doubt anybody would disagree with you that Reinhart is a better option than Donovan in the lineup.. but losing Donovan on waivers to get a couple more games of Reinhart before Viz is back is probably not the best move.

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In comment 11923058 marbles said: Quote: Maybe I am talking gibberish because I do not know how to deal with depth on defense has some depth, which is a welcome We're not used to having actual depth! It's a good problem to have!

Yes it is. I still occasionally pinch myself to make certain I am not dreaming of legitimate NHL roster.

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I doubt anybody would disagree with you that Reinhart is a better option than Donovan in the lineup.. but losing Donovan on waivers to get a couple more games of Reinhart before Viz is back is probably not the best move.

Again, it could just be a simple case of being forgetting what it is like to have real options. I am getting old afterall.

Donovan would clog up bport, too lol

Reinhart
Pulock
Church-Mon
Ness
Pedan
Pelech
Mayfield

is off to a good start in BPT. Already has scored a few times and supposedly looks really aggressive out thre.

I think he's a very good depth dman.. now HE is a great 7th dman.. fits right in.

let's do lots of THIS tonight:

http://wejustscored.com/teams/nyi.html

click on the Isles button.

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Donovan would clog up bport, too lol Reinhart Pulock Church-Mon Ness Pedan Pelech Mayfield

Of that group, is Ness skating on thin ice?

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[quote] I think he's a very good depth dman.. now HE is a great 7th dman.. fits right in.

let's do lots of THIS tonight:

http://wejustscored.com/teams/nyi.html

click on the Isles button. [/quote

That was awesome!

is the captain, also got injured last game. leg injury. I haven't seen an update (haven't really looked).

I doubt he's on thin ice because he looked relatively good when he came up last year. Played a very sound game and moved the puck. I don't think he's considered a future blueliner for NYI, but good insurance down at the 'port.

One guy I saw play the first two games that shocked me was Pedan. If he can put his game together, that's a gem. He's very physical, very big, has a massive shot and a serious fist.

He's just nasty.

we had on D even in Bridgeport.
I think this season we're going to have an interesting time at the trade deadline

No mental lapses tonight!

Need the return of Rush lyrics

From the point of conception
To the moment of Truth
At the point of surrender
To the burden of proof

From the point of ignition
To the final drive
The point of the journey is not to arrive

anything can happen

I tip the hat to someone who quotes a song off of the ever popular (not) Hold Your Fire lol

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is the captain, also got injured last game. leg injury. I haven't seen an update (haven't really looked). I doubt he's on thin ice because he looked relatively good when he came up last year. Played a very sound game and moved the puck. I don't think he's considered a future blueliner for NYI, but good insurance down at the 'port. One guy I saw play the first two games that shocked me was Pedan. If he can put his game together, that's a gem. He's very physical, very big, has a massive shot and a serious fist. He's just nasty.

I chose Ness in the numbers crunch because Pulock, Pedan, Pelech (imagine the entertainment value Butch Goring will give us trying to keep those names straight, but I digress), Reinhart, and Mayfield are locks.

I kept Church because he is younger than Ness.

if you quote Tai Shan, we're kicking your ass and putting a Rangers jersey on you

you're very very right.. even Churchman is above him.

He just looked so composed when he came up, I'm sure they feel comfortable if they had to bring him up again.

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if you quote Tai Shan, we're kicking your ass and putting a Rangers jersey on you

fair enough lol

Butchie came to the tailgate before the home opener to say hi to everyone.. about 3:30pm..

it's easy to bash him (I do) during the broadcast.. but when you see him in person you quickly remember who he was/is, and what he did for this organization. Talk about an important part of a dynasty.

Isles activate Calvin de Haan, Griffin Reinhart loaned to Bridgeport.

is he playing with Donovan or Strait?

that's the $.01 question lol

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Butchie came to the tailgate before the home opener to say hi to everyone.. about 3:30pm.. it's easy to bash him (I do) during the broadcast.. but when you see him in person you quickly remember who he was/is, and what he did for this organization. Talk about an important part of a dynasty.

That's awesome. I was half in the bag by 3:30. I heard some people slept in their cars the night before to get prime tailgating spots. Lunatics!

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is he playing with Donovan or Strait? that's the $.01 question lol

I'd rather play him with Donovan (until CdH is ready to move back into the top 4). A 3rd D pairing of Donovan and CdH would give us a pretty sweet puck moving pair at the back end of the D.

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is he playing with Donovan or Strait? that's the $.01 question lol

If Fred Flintstone had his way - both

too soon?

By the way, I only have a laugh at Goring's expense because of his maloprops. He is an all time Islander, and he was the missing piece to that team. The trade for him in midseason 1980 was a part of Torrey's genuis.

he's hilarious to listen to. I think Snow fucks with him by getting players whose last names are similar. I FULLY expect Pulock and Pelech to be a pair one day just like Strait and Streit lol

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he's hilarious to listen to. I think Snow fucks with him by getting players whose last names are similar. I FULLY expect Pulock and Pelech to be a pair one day just like Strait and Streit lol

Pair Pedan and Pelech

Isles plan on implementing the first 3 dman force in the NHL

Pelech/Pulock/Pedan

is the right move. He needs to work on his skating. If we are indeed a legit team, we don't have the luxury of letting him "develop" in the NHL.

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Isles plan on implementing the first 3 dman force in the NHL Pelech/Pulock/Pedan

Put them with Nelson and Nielson or Grabner and Grabovski and it would be one fun line to listen to

Howie & Butch keep messing up Grabovski, Kulemin & Conacher because they have similar numbers (84, 86 and 89 respectively)

Only thing I have to add to this is Eff Strait. Play anyone over him and its a bonus.

Hold your Fire was a very good album.

Reinhart Will be back soon enough. He definitely looks like he needs to work on things. I'd like to see Donovan get a start over Strait tonight.

but.. Tai Shan is horid.

what happened to strait? he was good last year

But then again the D was so bad it was hard to point the finger at one guy. It seemed like he was solid in the lockout season and the beginning of last season. Didn't he get injured or something and his been horrid since. He does grow a nice beard however.

definitely excited about them since it's been so long since they've been good. So nice to see tavares come back strong from the injury. went to the caps-aharks game. definitely SJ starts fast so have to watch out for that; but definitely Niemi is no Quick so he can be taken advantage of; and don't think their D is that great, so we have a chance to make an early season statement and win this one. meanwhile, I'm going to the caps-devils game tnite - go NJ!

That means rags get to be on both msg hd channels and devils on the other. Isles probably on SD.

Devils fan or caps hater???