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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/16/2014 4:47 pm
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Giants not considered a factor in NFC East, says Cowboys beat writer - ( New Window )
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Guess we should not even show up  
BIG FRED : 10/16/2014 4:51 pm : link
5. The Cowboys will win if…
They continue to run the ball with DeMarco Murray and their defense gets pressure on Manning. That shouldn't be a problem because I expect the Cowboys to win easy.
Non factor in Dallas' eyes  
micky : 10/16/2014 4:52 pm : link
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".... Well the Philadelphia Eagles kinda ended this season for the Giants last week. It's easy to have faith in what the Giants have done in the past when faced with adversity, but I don't believe, especially with no Victor Cruz, the Giants are a threat to anyone in the division."
one comment by the 1 blogger makes alot of sense  
Andy in Boston : 10/16/2014 4:55 pm : link
this should be a no huddle game most of the game for the Giants....the cowboys rely on a fresh legs and substitutions because their talent on D is limited. This game has no huddle written all over it.....I would think that has to be an obvious move by Coughlin and Mcadoo.
Which team does not use a DLine rotation  
bc4life : 10/16/2014 4:58 pm : link
, in part, to ensure fresh legs?
With the way this team played  
sexymoves : 10/16/2014 4:59 pm : link
against Philly, I cant argue with his thinking. Our season is on the line against Dallas, can we rebound from the Philly beat down? Are we going to get gashed up and down the field again Sunday? Over the last 2 years this team has not responded well in this situation. It is a huge game.
Can't say I blame him.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/16/2014 5:00 pm : link
No Cruz, CBs once again beat to shit. Not saying he's right, but it's not a crazy thought at the moment. Not to mention, the schedule the next few weeks is brutal.
Hard to argue with him  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 5:02 pm : link
the Texans, Redskins, and Falcons have proven to not be top half of the league teams.

the ones the Giants played who are they have lost to.

I agree with the beat writer. Murray should be able to run, and the Cowboys should be able to get to Eli.

Anything else is probably denial on the part of fans.

Furthermore, the Giants will probably struggle to get to Romo, something they historically seemingly were always able to do.
Guy's a bit of a homer  
Killed the K-Gun : 10/16/2014 5:04 pm : link
To be an effective writer.
The one part that didn't make any sense to me...  
BillKo : 10/16/2014 5:07 pm : link
was Romo fades when he's healthy to start a season.

But now, that he looks gimpy to everyone with an eyeball (and admittedly not 100%), he's actually going to finish the season stronger due to him resting???

WTF?

Seriously, I do think the Cowboys are the best team in the division, but injuries are going to determine their fate.
I happen to agree with him, but his opinion means nothing.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/16/2014 5:09 pm : link
If Rick Gosselin had said it, I might care. A little.
Two Flat Teams  
Arkbach : 10/16/2014 5:09 pm : link
will be playing. Cowboys enjoy a letdown after a big win. The Giants sulk in confusion and despair. The dallas OL is too big and they run block well. They should grind out a +14 point win. Last weekend may take until next season to recover from both physically and emotionally.
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26.2 : 10/16/2014 5:22 pm : link
I doubt that you'll find too many publications that are picking the giants this weekend. we just got humiliated on national TV and they just beat the defending SB champs on the road where its near impossible to win. no surprise that the Dallas beat writer picks Dallas to win and do so easily.

I don't have a lot of reason to think NYG will win other than that I'm a fan and I hope they do.
Peaking  
Joey in VA : 10/16/2014 5:27 pm : link
In late October is for fall foliage, not champions. They've done well, they are riding their OL and running game and won a show me game last week. But, it's October, they have no where to go but down with a QB historically shit in December who has a balky back and keeps taking shots.

My money is on Philly for the Division, and in 6 weeks when the Cowboys are struggling and the ship takes on water, it will sink again.
Joey, even if that's all true, it doesn't change the fact  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 5:35 pm : link
that when you analyze this October game all signs point to the Cowboys winning on both sides of the ball and special teams.

but division games are strange, so while I agree with the Cowboys beat writer on what should happen, that doesn't mean it will.
RE: Hard to argue with him  
Arcanum : 10/16/2014 5:40 pm : link
In comment 11923822 pjcas18 said:
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the Texans, Redskins, and Falcons have proven to not be top half of the league teams.

the ones the Giants played who are they have lost to.

I agree with the beat writer. Murray should be able to run, and the Cowboys should be able to get to Eli.

Anything else is probably denial on the part of fans.

Furthermore, the Giants will probably struggle to get to Romo, something they historically seemingly were always able to do.


So, outside of Seattle, who have the Cowboys beat ? All The Cowboys wins came down to the wire.
Dallas is the best team in the division.  
arcarsenal : 10/16/2014 5:42 pm : link
It pains me to say it because I hate that fucking team so much but they are.

Doesn't mean we can't win on Sunday. It's football. Anything can happen. But right now they are the best team in the division to my eyes.
Is that any different  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 5:43 pm : link
than hearing it from an uninformed Dallas fan?

Losing Cruz is going to mean more Beckham. That won't be a downgrade.

The issue is the Giants OL. Not Cruz. If the OL plays better we have a shot to win the NFC East. It all changes with a win this week.
Outside of Seattle?  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 5:44 pm : link
the SB favorite in their house where they lost like twice in three years.

I don't think you need an outside of seattle who have they beaten answer.

but reality is they're 5 - 1 and not getting blown out by a team who was struggling to run the ball and play defense.
Joey  
bc4life : 10/16/2014 5:45 pm : link
RE: Romo I hear ya. But, Philly could have lost a few of its' previous games. Even Giant's putrid defensive effort managed a few hits, pressures, and almost sacks. Philly can be had.

And, if both make the playoffs Philly can't beat 49ers or Seattle.

RE: Dallas - I am wondering if their D will hold up.
It won't be a downgrade?  
arcarsenal : 10/16/2014 5:45 pm : link
Of course it will be a downgrade. What kind of comment is that?

Our base offense now is 3WR. It means Preston Parker or Kevin Ogletree are going to be on the field for a good deal of our pass plays. It's not either/or with Cruz/Beckham. Having them both on the field could have presented far more favorable matchups for us but we only had about 6 quarters of that before we lost Cruz.
KWALL  
bc4life : 10/16/2014 5:48 pm : link
In no way shape or form can I envision NYG winning the Division. With its' original cast maybe - too many injuries and this was an not a dominant team to begin with.
RE: I happen to agree with him, but his opinion means nothing.  
micky : 10/16/2014 5:52 pm : link
In comment 11923827 Big Blue Blogger said:
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If Rick Gosselin had said it, I might care. A little.


Here's a Gosselin article this week BBB. Not pertaining to this one
oops  
micky : 10/16/2014 5:53 pm : link
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link - ( New Window )
The Giants task  
BigBlueCane : 10/16/2014 6:07 pm : link
is to tread water and steadily improve without suffering more catastrophic injuries.

If they can do that, they might be in a position to be a factor down the stretch.
Enough already.  
Killed the K-Gun : 10/16/2014 6:07 pm : link
Two weeks ago, Larry Donnell was the second coming of Mark Bavaro.

TC was going to ride off after his third SB.

Now Dallas is as good as the 3-timers from the 90's.

Give it a few weeks, and the Rams will get a comparison to The Greatest Show on Turf.

Make it stop.
I think were going to kick their ass back to Ebolaland  
WideRight : 10/16/2014 6:07 pm : link
.
You make adjustments  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 6:11 pm : link
One of them is Beckham sees the ball a lot more. That's a good thing for the team.

You also use Donnell in more ways including splitting him out wide. Bring in Robinson or Fells to block a little more. He can make plays outside.

When Jennings comes back they need to get him the ball more in the pass game. He can help pick up the slack.

They can overcome the loss of Cruz. He is not the type of player that ends a season especially since they have Beckham to take over the main pass catching role.

If they win this week, get Schwartz and Jennings back soon, we go at it with a running game with Jennings/Williams and bigger roles for Beckham and Donnell.
Beckham  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 6:13 pm : link
will dominate the league. This is the next great NFL WR and it's going to start very soon.

My guess is this Dallas writer knows nothing of Beckham or what he will bring to an NFL field.
I also love  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 6:17 pm : link
the overrating of this Dallas defense and team. Dallas is a few plays away from 2-4 or 3-3. This is not a great Dallas team. PHI is a better team.
The Eagles defense is horrible.  
arcarsenal : 10/16/2014 6:21 pm : link
We just weren't able to exploit them like almost every other team they played did. Dallas has a better OL, a better QB the best WR in the division, for my money, the best RB in the division and their defense has been far better than people expected.

I would be willing to bet that the Cowboys finish ahead of the Eagles.
I love that, a few plays away from 2 - 4 or 3 - 3  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 6:22 pm : link
is that like saying the Giants were a couple plays away from losing two super bowls?

whatever fits your argument.

Dallas D was supposed to be their Achilles heel -they were "supposed" to be historically be bad and they've been MUCH better than anticipated. They've been middle of the pack. Their running game and OL have been lights out. 160 yds per game avg on the ground, certainly opens things up offensively.

if the continue to play that well they will be hard to beat - for anyone.




RE: Outside of Seattle?  
Arcanum : 10/16/2014 6:25 pm : link
In comment 11923867 pjcas18 said:
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the SB favorite in their house where they lost like twice in three years.

I don't think you need an outside of seattle who have they beaten answer.

but reality is they're 5 - 1 and not getting blown out by a team who was struggling to run the ball and play defense.


I can't speak for everybody. But I knew the Cowboys was going to win. Seattle struggled with the Redskins(A team the Giants destroyed). Granted The Redskins lost by 10. But they were in the game, until late. I'm not taking anything from the Cowboys. But I'm not sold on them just yet. One more thing. How many Cornerbacks did Seattle have out that game ? And if I'm not mistaken, 2 more got hurt during the game.
RE: The Eagles defense is horrible.  
micky : 10/16/2014 6:25 pm : link
In comment 11923902 arcarsenal said:
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We just weren't able to exploit them like almost every other team they played did. Dallas has a better OL, a better QB the best WR in the division, for my money, the best RB in the division and their defense has been far better than people expected.

I would be willing to bet that the Cowboys finish ahead of the Eagles.


Agree to a point about the Eagles defense as to being horrible. But are they? Or the Giants just putrid for one night. However, anytime you shutout an opponent in a offensive friendly league this day and age, then you cannot be as horrible.
I agree that you can overcome losing Cruz,  
kmed : 10/16/2014 6:25 pm : link
but it's a downgrade going to a rookie. Will beckham be a top flight WR? Possibly, but going from Cruz to Beckham who has played in 2 career games is most certainly a downgrade. Also, going from Beckham as the #3 to Corey Washington or whoever fills that role is a bigger downgrade. Stop trying to sugarcoat it just because you have a hard-on for Beckham.
RE: RE: Hard to argue with him- Arcanum  
Bleedin Blue : 10/16/2014 6:26 pm : link
In comment 11923862 Arcanum said:
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In comment 11923822 pjcas18 said:


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the Texans, Redskins, and Falcons have proven to not be top half of the league teams.

the ones the Giants played who are they have lost to.

I agree with the beat writer. Murray should be able to run, and the Cowboys should be able to get to Eli.

Anything else is probably denial on the part of fans.

Furthermore, the Giants will probably struggle to get to Romo, something they historically seemingly were always able to do.



So, outside of Seattle, who have the Cowboys beat ? All The Cowboys wins came down to the wire.


LOL! that's what we said about Philly last week and they beat the shit the Giants of us and sent them home crying to their mothers. So throw that logic out the window.

Now that being said, as a fan I want to believe that they WILL bounce back!
The Eagles found a way to exploit our offense..  
arcarsenal : 10/16/2014 6:29 pm : link
..and they executed it perfectly. I still don't buy that defense overall, I think their secondary is garbage and I think any team that can pass protect can shred them.
pj  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 6:33 pm : link
After 6 games in EVERY NFL season there are teams that are clearly ready to roll with a record of 5-1 and teams that are lucky to be sitting there with a 5-1 record.

You see it every year.

And after more games, the teams that caught a couple of games are usually exposed. This is your 2014 Dallas Cowboys.
RE: RE: RE: Hard to argue with him- Arcanum  
Arcanum : 10/16/2014 6:36 pm : link
In comment 11923911 Bleedin Blue said:
[quote] In comment 11923862 Arcanum said:


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In comment 11923822 pjcas18 said:


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the Texans, Redskins, and Falcons have proven to not be top half of the league teams.

the ones the Giants played who are they have lost to.

I agree with the beat writer. Murray should be able to run, and the Cowboys should be able to get to Eli.

Anything else is probably denial on the part of fans.

Furthermore, the Giants will probably struggle to get to Romo, something they historically seemingly were always able to do.



So, outside of Seattle, who have the Cowboys beat ? All The Cowboys wins came down to the wire.



LOL! that's what we said about Philly last week and they beat the shit the Giants of us and sent them home crying to their mothers. So throw that logic out the window.

Now that being said, as a fan I want to believe that they WILL bounce back!

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The Eagles have been kicking the Giants ass for how many years now ? They're just that one team, the Giants can't fuck with. Or at least, struggle to beat
Or maybe I'm wrong  
KWALL : 10/16/2014 6:36 pm : link
and Mclain's violent tackling will be the difference. Is that what the Dallas writer said? That's a joke. What will be the difference is his lack of speed along with the awful pass rush in Dallas.

Check out that roster on the Dallas D. There isn't much there. It will be exposed.
its easy  
SBlue46 : 10/16/2014 6:37 pm : link
Take romo out and backup is 90% less productive...
fewell has to take a few blitzes somewhere and
hit romo...he is injury prone...got hurt last week
a little...will also fumble easy...got to rush 1 or
2 xtra guys like eagles do
RE: pj  
Arcanum : 10/16/2014 6:41 pm : link
In comment 11923913 KWALL said:
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After 6 games in EVERY NFL season there are teams that are clearly ready to roll with a record of 5-1 and teams that are lucky to be sitting there with a 5-1 record.

You see it every year.

And after more games, the teams that caught a couple of games are usually exposed. This is your 2014 Dallas Cowboys.



Exactly!!
Dallas is playing great football  
Joey in VA : 10/16/2014 6:43 pm : link
I am not discounting that, but this is not team unity, they splinter easily when anything goes south and it will. Romo usually falls on his face after Thanksgiving, in large part because he's beaten to a pulp. He's on the same track and he's coming off of back surgery, he's on borrowed time.

I don't buy Dallas, their secondary is a joke and Rod Marinelli is not fucking Belichick, it is going to take some tape on the new guys he has in there and the wheels will come off. McClain is going to nosedive, book it. He will get hurt or do something idiotic and if not him you KNOW Bryant will, or Witten will finally give out, or Romo and the team will collapse. They are on thin ice when they play this well, they are not a top to bottom stacked team talent wise and they will not survive the 17 game endurance test and be the best team wire to wire.

Their history is marked with failure because of this owner, QB and head coach. They are all there, they are all NOT going to be perfect for 17 weeks. This team is like a sportscar you just finally got out of the garage that is flying down the road. That unreliable piece of pretty garbage will be in a ditch before it changes into super reliable super car. Fuck the Cowboys, and Jerry Jones and dickface Romo and that Ginger fuck coach. They will tank, TRUST ME.
I am going to have the biggest fucking grin on my face if we beat them  
Geomon : 10/16/2014 6:43 pm : link
You'll have to sand it off.
RE: Is that any different  
barens : 10/16/2014 6:49 pm : link
In comment 11923866 KWALL said:
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than hearing it from an uninformed Dallas fan?

Losing Cruz is going to mean more Beckham. That won't be a downgrade.

The issue is the Giants OL. Not Cruz. If the OL plays better we have a shot to win the NFC East. It all changes with a win this week.


That will be a downgrade this year, a rookie who didn't even get his feet wet in training camp, as talented as he is, there's going to be some catching up. Cruz will be missed greatly, especially this week.
Who else  
Joeguido : 10/16/2014 6:52 pm : link
Is hoping dallas crashes and burns and has another 8-8 season. I do
RE: pj  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2014 6:58 pm : link
In comment 11923913 KWALL said:
Quote:
After 6 games in EVERY NFL season there are teams that are clearly ready to roll with a record of 5-1 and teams that are lucky to be sitting there with a 5-1 record.

You see it every year.

And after more games, the teams that caught a couple of games are usually exposed. This is your 2014 Dallas Cowboys.


I'd love to be wrong, I'd would love to see a Giants win, I'm just telling you based on how the Giants have played on the season as a whole, not one specific game and how the Cowboys have played om the season so far as a whole it's hard to argue with the beat writers assessment.

If you disagree fine, if you think the Giants will win, great. I hope they do, but I don't think they will and it doesn't make me any less of a fan for not thinking they're going to win.
Riddle Me This  
BobbyJohnson_4thand17 : 10/16/2014 6:59 pm : link
We dominated the Texans, albeit they were without A. Foster. Dallas pulled out a win in overtime against the Texans in a game where JJ Watt should have ended Romo's season but whiffed and Romo hit a ridiculous bomb to T. Williams.

I can understand the critics, however, I don't understand how so-called Giants fans continue to discount our play against a common opponent as a win against weak team for us and Dallas only having one loss. It's a long season and I feel like Dallas, as they're prone to do, are using up their magic in the early part of the season. Just remember how many times we were 6-2 in the first half of the season only to collapse in the second half.
RE: Dallas is playing great football  
Wonderphil11 : 10/16/2014 7:00 pm : link
In comment 11923926 Joey in VA said:
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I am not discounting that, but this is not team unity, they splinter easily when anything goes south and it will. Romo usually falls on his face after Thanksgiving, in large part because he's beaten to a pulp. He's on the same track and he's coming off of back surgery, he's on borrowed time.

I don't buy Dallas, their secondary is a joke and Rod Marinelli is not fucking Belichick, it is going to take some tape on the new guys he has in there and the wheels will come off. McClain is going to nosedive, book it. He will get hurt or do something idiotic and if not him you KNOW Bryant will, or Witten will finally give out, or Romo and the team will collapse. They are on thin ice when they play this well, they are not a top to bottom stacked team talent wise and they will not survive the 17 game endurance test and be the best team wire to wire.

Their history is marked with failure because of this owner, QB and head coach. They are all there, they are all NOT going to be perfect for 17 weeks. This team is like a sportscar you just finally got out of the garage that is flying down the road. That unreliable piece of pretty garbage will be in a ditch before it changes into super reliable super car. Fuck the Cowboys, and Jerry Jones and dickface Romo and that Ginger fuck coach. They will tank, TRUST ME.


Couldn't agree more.....you had me at "Romo...beaten to a pulp"!
Well we are  
TMS : 10/16/2014 7:29 pm : link
getting what we deserve after that disgrace last week, Giants fans were running their mouths as well after the three wins in a row. Just the way it is. Talk is cheap, you are how you play the next game in this league.
And the way the Giants played the game last week, if the  
Reese's Pieces : 10/16/2014 7:48 pm : link
West Coast offense allows the quarterback to get rid of the ball in two seconds, the Giants are going to have to find an offensive system that allows the quarterback to get rid of it in one second.
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