Offensive Sh*t Show Versus Eagles - Outcoached Vs Outplayed?

to throw his players under the bus in the same way Eli didn't want to throw the offensive line under the bus.

Again, we'll see.

Than I do his ability to take responsibility for a poor game.

the truth is, our players couldn't win their one-on-one matchups in the trenches, on both sides. One-sided officiating did not help, either. But adjustments weren't made when the Eagles gameplan was crystal clear, and that's on the coaches.

"It starts right here"

After almost every loss he falls on his sword and says to look at him. Maybe you should read the transcripts or watch the pressers.

If u think besides giving lip service, he really takes the blame, not sure what to tell you.

What more would you like to hear?

Ever see a Little Bill presser after a loss????

"I have no explanation" which is a trademark of every post game pc

After the Philly game: "So it was just, it starts right here at the top. Very, very poor performance. I take full responsibility for it. And there’s not a lot to say about it. Not a lot to say."

Obviously TC is kidding around and is blaming B-Mac behind the scenes when he says this. How do we know this? Because the guy on BBI says so.

In comment 11924020 BlueHurricane said:

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"It starts right here" After almost every loss he falls on his sword and says to look at him. Maybe you should read the transcripts or watch the pressers.

TC always starts off a presser after a loss with that statement or one like it.

I think in the NFL it will usually be more about the Jimmys & Joes than the X's and O's. Particularly with a coach with a resume like Coughlin.

In comment 11924017 SHO'NUFF said:

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the truth is, our players couldn't win their one-on-one matchups in the trenches, on both sides. One-sided officiating did not help, either. But adjustments weren't made when the Eagles gameplan was crystal clear, and that's on the coaches.

absolutely bingo

Why is this question always posed as an "either/or"?

It looked to me like a fine combination of the two alternatives presented.

There was no answer to the full court press from the Eagles DL and the Giants line turned into a subway entrance.

And let's not forget the Giant's D.

Plenty of blame to go around for Sunday nights outcome but Giants fans should be used to it by now. It's been this way for two and a half seasons now.

Is beyond nonsensical.

To hear a coach call out player execution as the first reason for failure

...but he really hasn't said that so much in the past few years. At least that's how it seems to me.

A coach always must look at himself when there is poor play. The players, too, must be held accountable, for not executing properly, especially last game when there was such incompetent performance.

"I'm all for it"...(love ya coach McKay)

The coaches forgot to tell the offensive line to block somebody.

idiots, sorry, fans, are quick to play the "outcoached" card when the reason is lack of talent, lack of execution or some combination of the two because they can't contemplate that the players they so love are not that good.

The Eagles have more speed and more talent than we do and they executed better on their home field. That will generally lead to a shit show that Lombardi couldn't save.

NYG was severely outplayed, beaten physically, positionally, strategically, and the score could've easily been worse than it was. Philly played with supreme confidence and synergy, given I project their defense is relatively ordinary, and they whipped up with an offense that is missing OL starters and isn't a strong vertical passing attack, at this time.

I mentioned earlier in the week, and earlier in the season, that McAdoo's been outcoached and slow to react and adjust in game a couple times. He's a young coach and a new OC, some growing pains of this nature are to be expected. The good news he realizes it and isn't afraid to acknowledge and accept it, that bodes well for learning from it.

PF shows a lack of feel for games quite often, and despite the spending last offseason, his unit is short on talent overall.

I love Coughlin however these road disasters have happened under his watch quite often. When e get beat like this it always seems that the opposing team is just so much quicker off the snap then we are. We got manhandled. Our offensive line which we were all stoked about got beat in every facet. I believe this week tells all. If we win we are 4-3 and in the hunt for the wild card and only a game in back of dallas which is really a 1/2 game since we had won and either 1 or 2 games in back of Phily. If we lose way too many teams ahead of us in the WC race and we would be 3.5 games behind dallas and 2.5 to 3.5 behind philly. Done. Lets hope we are much more like the team that had won the previous 3 then the absolute embarrasment we were against the eagles.

You can print that!"

-Jeremy Shockey

The Eagles won the physical part of the game on both lines

Philly definitely had a better gameplan than the Giants. Coughlin's power running game was basically a 1980s gameplan, which had no chance of success. I guess they were trying to take advantage of Philly's smallish DL. But it was a really poor decision. By starting a rookie at RB, Coughlin also telegraphed what he was going to do since everyone knows that he does not trust rookies to pass block.

When the opposition can figure out what you plan to do, they can generally stop it.

So Coughlin gets an F for that game, but the players get an F-

In comment 11924697 HomerJones45 said:

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idiots, sorry, fans, are quick to play the "outcoached" card when the reason is lack of talent, lack of execution or some combination of the two because they can't contemplate that the players they so love are not that good. The Eagles have more speed and more talent than we do and they executed better on their home field. That will generally lead to a shit show that Lombardi couldn't save.

Agreed. Not to mention that BBI members were in the locker room at halftime and had direct access to McAdoo's headset to make claims like 'we didn't adjust.'

that when a team is responsible for 4 out the 11 shutouts over the past three seasons in the entire league, it's fair to question whether we were outcoached when this happens, again. Someone also ran the numbers of the staggering number of times that the Giants have been blown out over that span as well, but I don't remember the exact figures. The players either weren't prepared, or were out-executed so badly that the coach couldn't figure out proper adjustments. Granted, we had an easy touchdown taken away because of an act of God (Cruz's injury), but we still put nothing on the board. Our offensive line has been atrocious at times and that limits a team-- but plenty of teams have dealt with terrible O-line play, at least for a game at a time.

Far too many times has Coughlin's Giants come out flat against another team and many of those stinkers are very important games like last week.

Don't just look at shutouts though, Paul. Look at beat downs. These guys are not the Browns or Raiders. There is no excuse why they far too often play like total shit when there is some talent on this team. To me, that's on Coughlin, the head coach.

I do not pretend to have an answer, only an observation.

In comment 11924987 mrvax said:

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Far too many times has Coughlin's Giants come out flat against another team and many of those stinkers are very important games like last week.

This has been a hallmark of the GIANTS under more than one head coach. It has always been a team that needs something to react to ... so they can set themselves off.