Jets should be an inspiration for Jints

aspire to be the Jets

The Jets played better against Peyton than we did against Philly. It'd be an improvement at this point...

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We would beat the jets. Their front would maul as and theyd be able to run on us.

More than we can say about the Philly game. Hopefully we show up and play against Dallas.

and lose by a blocked FG, I'm going to be as pissed as last week.

If we play mediocre and block a FG to win the game, I'll be ecstatic.

But we can't just keep saying we're better than the Jets, we 're actually going to have to prove it at some point. Jets came to play against possibly the best 2 teams in the AFC, we didn't bother to show up against Philly.
I'd really hate to get blown out by Dallas, shit like that bothers me. I'm just asking for a team that plays hard...

Point taken but I think that if we play mediocre, Dallas is more likely to be taking a knee at the end of the game than kicking a FG...

really.. we should use a 1-5 team as inspiration.. great..

We should use the Jets effort against the Patriots as an inspiration.

Did I say it slow enough that time?

Yeesh...

"we're actually going to have to prove it at some point."



We're really looking for things to cling to when the Jets at 1-5 are the inspiration.

the 2014 Cowboys are a much better football team than the 2014 Patriots.

Also, Thursday games are always a little weird.

Yeah and I love the picture of the Eagles trophy case too.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic here but if it makes you feel better...

In comment 11924486 Rocky Thompson said:

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Yeah and I love the picture of the Eagles trophy case too. Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic here but if it makes you feel better...

Well I don't know what else you could have possibly meant by stating "at some point we should prove we're better than the Jets".

Is that we did last week against Philly? Walked in there brandishing our Super Bowl trophy yes and handing out leaflets with Donovan McNabb standing next to his Campbell's Soup can while they were kicking our ass?

Are you happy with that?

Traditionally we are better than the Jets but the truth is they played better against Denver than we did against Philly. They played like a motivated team last night. Is it too much to ask from the Jints that they play at least as well as the Jets?

Nice pic though, next time make it fit the screen please...

Is that what we did last week against Philly? Walked in there brandishing our Super Bowl trophys and handing out leaflets with Donovan McNabb standing next to his Campbell's Soup can while they were kicking our ass?

Are you happy with that?

Traditionally we are better than the Jets but the truth is they played better against Denver than we did against Philly. They played like a motivated team last night. Is it too much to ask from the Jints that they play at least as well as the Jets?

Nice pic though, next time make it fit the screen please...

1) No offense, but i don't think a loss should be the object of our inspiration.

2) The giants should be motivated enough by a division game and their embarrassment last week.

3) Enough with the trophy cases, custom jerseys, etc. None of that has one iota to do with this year. Those tactics didn't work for the Giants last week and were an embarrassment for fans.

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The same team that just got shut out in San Diego 2 weeks ago and had their QB complete like 4 of 12 passes for 20 something yards in the first half only to have their backup come in, play just as badly and then say he wasn't "prepared" to play?

Those Jets?

No thanks.

I think we'd have the same record if we faced the teams the Jets have played in their first seven games. Their schedule's been brutal.

In comment 11924499 Rocky Thompson said:

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Is that what we did last week against Philly? Walked in there brandishing our Super Bowl trophys and handing out leaflets with Donovan McNabb standing next to his Campbell's Soup can while they were kicking our ass? Are you happy with that? Traditionally we are better than the Jets but the truth is they played better against Denver than we did against Philly. They played like a motivated team last night. Is it too much to ask from the Jints that they play at least as well as the Jets? Nice pic though, next time make it fit the screen please...

What we did last week is lose a game, badly.

I don't see the need to psychoanalyze it, nor do I see the need to long for the work ethic of a team that's 1-5. Their 1 win is against the fucking Raiders vs a rookie QB in his first start.

One more time for those of you who's Vyvanse is just kicking in:

The Jets effort the past two weeks against possibly the best 2 teams in the AFC has been commendable. Our effort last week was deplorable. We face a daunting task this week against a Dallas team that just beat Seattle in Seattle.

Can we at least play as hard this week as the Jets have the past two weeks?

one of the most over used cliches ever in sports? I believe the Giants played hard against Philly, they just didnt play well. I dont think there were anybody who was purposely dogging it so we would lose.

I dont think a single person on BBI know "how hard" players play. We can see that they didnt play well.

So hopefully this week the Giants play better so they have a better chance of winning.

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should be for young football players...l

Aspire to be a 1-5 team that just lost again to a division rival. Some people are just trying too hard. The jets blow. They have always blown and they will always blow. Screw them and screw you for ever comparing a gold standard franchise to their joke of an organization.

A football thread that makes sense goes misunderstood by BBIers, who woulda thought...

that a team that lost a better game to a harder team means they are better. It ignores the other 2 billion factors that happen during the game.

The Giants lost, get over it and move on.

against San Diego? A game they lost worse than we did to Philly?

Well spoken...

The past 2 weeks.

You guys are fucking with me right?

I mean you really can't be this fucking stupid...

was 12 days ago

It smells the worst.

and agree with Rocky

In comment 11924586 YAJ2112 said:

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and agree with Rocky

Or we need an offseason like the Redskins.

I'll come back in a little while
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In comment 11924565 Rocky Thompson said:

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A football thread that makes sense goes misunderstood by BBIers, who woulda thought...

Nah, everyone understands your point. The Giants could learn something from a team given no chance that ended up competing nicely. It's a pretty simple point to understand (and a very pedestrian one to make, quite frankly).

So with that in mind... we all get your point...

It is a terrible thread. Your title is stupid. Your point is dumb, and your overarching theme is antagonistic. Par for the course though I guess?

how does one play harder? Is it something similar to putting on a game face like seen below?
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great thread bro

and those kids gave it their all!

That's about the only thing I learned on this thread.

You run to a BBI Mod every time you don't like something said. You're a rat, a tattletale, like my 6 year old daughter was when she was 5.

You're Ned Beatty in Deliverance, squeal like a pig, bitch.

Your opinion is no longer valid, not that it carried much weight before, now run along little sissy girl...

Few lecturing me on football content? I can even describe how hard that made me laugh.

Then you have commentary by Mensa grads like BlueHurricane, YAJ and Ten Ton Hammer don't bother to read the original post.

It's funny in a way but mostly sad, completely predictable though.

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But a new low is always a click away here.

quite the in depth analysis there Lombardi

or the 0-5 Raiders who lost by few points to the Chargers.

Then you have the BBI fodder that comment on everything and know very little about anything. And they hit like a swarm if they don't like you. Attack sheep. Makes most people that know anything about football not post, too much trouble getting through the fodder. I don't mind though, I got nothin better to do for the morning. I'll abuse some sheep...

In comment 11924621 Rocky Thompson said:

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You run to a BBI Mod every time you don't like something said. You're a rat, a tattletale, like my 6 year old daughter was when she was 5. You're Ned Beatty in Deliverance, squeal like a pig, bitch. Your opinion is no longer valid, not that it carried much weight before, now run along little sissy girl...

I know you look like a fool quite often, so resulting in lies and making up shit if your go to move. But please start some more quality threads like this. We all like to laugh at your expense.

Jets. Did I misread that?

maybe 10-11 wins in that division, not too mighty. Jets scratched and clawed, while the Giants appeared to surrender at Philly, I get that.

I'm sorry you can't admit the Jets outplayed the Giants last week, it's a fact.
I hope we at least get the effort put forth by the Jets last night this week against Dallas.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you...

the Giants outplayed the Jets by a wider margin. What's the point?

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Well Rocky Thompson : 7:57 am : link : reply The Jets played better against Peyton than we did against Philly. It'd be an improvement at this point...

Makes you wonder why Reese hasnt asked him for a position with the Giants. Or better yet why the creators of Madden dont send him a free game every year.

I have seen Warren Sapp give better breakdowns of games, and he cant even speak the English language well.

I don't wanna flop in Dallas. I hate Dallas, I'll take a Jets like effort...

In comment 11924656 Rocky Thompson said:

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I'm sorry you can't admit the Jets outplayed the Giants last week, it's a fact.

How much did the Jets beat us by? Since you know, they outplayed us.

against and in Dallas is not inspiration enough, only the owners should not be fired.

I'd much rather watch a hopeless team that will be starting over with a new head coach, likely a new QB, and a ton of cap space, go out and play hard and come close to beating two of the best QBs of all-time, one of whom has one of the best coaches of all-time and was at home, and the other is the reigning AFC champs and favorite...

than watch a team full of potential with (what we consider) a Hall of Fame QB and coach go against a division rival and get embarrassed and shut out for the fourth time since the beginning of 2012 when there have only been 7 other shutouts by the 31 other teams combined in that span.

Is the Giants a better franchise? Yes. Is this Giants team better than the Jets? Yes. Is this Giants team more capable of going on a run if they figure it out? Yes.

But for a terrible team, it seems like the Jets are far less likely to just get blown out of the water due to effort than the Giants.

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maybe 10-11 wins in that division, not too mighty. Jets scratched and clawed, while the Giants appeared to surrender at Philly, I get that.

Jon, it's a ridiculous way to try to make a thin point on here. Using the 1-6 Jets as an 'inspirational' example taking the really small sample size of the two most recent games/losses by both teams is a silly point anywhere. But on a Giants board it's hard to tell whether it's trolling or just sheer obtuseness. Which, frankly, is my reaction reading everything the OP posts.

Since the Jets suck, played hard and lost to a (so/so) Pats team the Giants could be inspired and, thanks to the Jets, now know if they play hard they could play better.

Wow, good stuff.

they blew it as usual. They have the better OL and better DL than the Pats. GEno wasn't terrible but he wasn't great.

I thought Rex should have kicked off and not tried the onside kick late in the game. And My God that 2 pt conversion play was awful. I would have run the ball or done the QB draw. I hate the fade there with a young QB and TE to boot.

Take the hint, stop following me around, you tried you failed. You're not gonna be the guy to get me banned. I know that would have made your whole life worthwhile but it ain't gonna happen. Now go away...

In comment 11924678 vibe4giants said:

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In comment 11924652 JonC said: Quote: maybe 10-11 wins in that division, not too mighty. Jets scratched and clawed, while the Giants appeared to surrender at Philly, I get that. Jon, it's a ridiculous way to try to make a thin point on here. Using the 1-6 Jets as an 'inspirational' example taking the really small sample size of the two most recent games/losses by both teams is a silly point anywhere. But on a Giants board it's hard to tell whether it's trolling or just sheer obtuseness. Which, frankly, is my reaction reading everything the OP posts.

vibe, I get that as well.

where was the Jets effort when San Diego crushed them 31-0 12 days ago?

In comment 11924686 Rocky Thompson said:

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You're not gonna be the guy to get me banned.

well, nobody should get banned regardless. We're all Giants fans

from the Jets, is as a model of what type of franchise not to be.

Pay attention, Christ. It's not the 1-6 Jets I'm talking about, it's their effort the past 2 weeks.

Yeesh, who's obtuse?

In comment 11924677 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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I'd much rather watch a hopeless team that will be starting over with a new head coach, likely a new QB, and a ton of cap space, go out and play hard and come close to beating two of the best QBs of all-time, one of whom has one of the best coaches of all-time and was at home, and the other is the reigning AFC champs and favorite... than watch a team full of potential with (what we consider) a Hall of Fame QB and coach go against a division rival and get embarrassed and shut out for the fourth time since the beginning of 2012 when there have only been 7 other shutouts by the 31 other teams combined in that span. Is the Giants a better franchise? Yes. Is this Giants team better than the Jets? Yes. Is this Giants team more capable of going on a run if they figure it out? Yes. But for a terrible team, it seems like the Jets are far less likely to just get blown out of the water due to effort than the Giants.

What people are failing to realize about the Jets is that they have TWO things we dont.

1. OL
2. DL

So while they dont have talent at any skill positions or in their secondary.... they were able to control both LOS in their last two games which made them look competitive. Why were they so good last night? They ran the ball extremely well. They had a lot of 3rd and short so they could convert. They kept Brady off the field for the majority of the night.

Their problem was they kicked FGs instead of scoring TDs, because once they got close to the goal line, the Pats loaded the box and dared them to throw (two holding penalties hurt as well).

The Jets are nothing special, and to say that they played with more effort is just throwing shit to the win to make it sound like you know what you are talking about. The Giants played hard against the Eagles, they just didnt play well.

And isnt it amazing it still comes down to the OL/DL that dictates how well you play?

If we get skullfuct at every turn, i'll have reached my limit...

I can take a young rebuilding season. I can take the ups and downs...just show me progress. Show me that this team and regime can compete against the elites of the NFL. We get blown out every week now when the comp is very good. I can't take it anymore.

It'll make you feel better...

In comment 11924694 Rocky Thompson said:

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Pay attention, Christ. It's not the 1-6 Jets I'm talking about, it's their effort the past 2 weeks. Yeesh, who's obtuse?

So they followed up a poor effort with 2 good ones. The Giants just had a poor effort, lets give them a chance to motivate themselves to do better before having to look to inept franchises for inspiration.

The Jets put forth a good effort the past two weeks - better than their talent level would lead you to have expected.

That doesn't mean they're any sort of inspiration.

Terrible premise dude. The Pats are a weak team that is being carried by a very good QB in a laughably weak division.

The NE defense is very soft and now have lost their best player for the season.

A bad Jets team lost a close game to a mediocre NE team.

I'm inspired.

discussing how he let his early effort against Barwin get in his head and is probems Sunday were more mental than anythign else is directly related to effot. It's a defeatist attitude I like Pugh, and I like him acknowledging his bad play and his corrective actions since, but the criticism is still warranted.

It's not throwing shit aginst the wind.

Tom Coughlin coaches as inspired as Rex Ryan has the last two weeks.... right?

Mods? Sniper? Anybody?

In comment 11924713 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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discussing how he let his early effort against Barwin get in his head and is probems Sunday were more mental than anythign else is directly related to effot. It's a defeatist attitude I like Pugh, and I like him acknowledging his bad play and his corrective actions since, but the criticism is still warranted. It's not throwing shit aginst the wind.

Thats 1 player, and its not like he quit playing. saw it as a result of poor play because he was beaten mentally. They need to play better.

"J"ust "E"ffort "T"o-be "S"ame

they suck, they record is worse - but, they've got moxie.

Remind me which NFL playoff tiebreaker moxie counts for.

In comment 11924721 Rocky Thompson said:

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Mods? Sniper? Anybody?

Relax tough guy. If you quit your name calling and babyish antics, you might learn something from what people are telling you. This isnt your website, and if you are going to start threads, you have to take what they are worth.

YOU are the one who needs to get personal. Maybe if you grew up a bit, and calmed down you wouldnt get bother at the littlest things.

I love when fans think they know how hard players are trying on the field or how much "effort" is being put forth. It's wildly entertaining.

In comment 11924646 Rocky Thompson said:

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Then you have the BBI fodder that comment on everything and know very little about anything. And they hit like a swarm if they don't like you. Attack sheep. Makes most people that know anything about football not post, too much trouble getting through the fodder. I don't mind though, I got nothin better to do for the morning. I'll abuse some sheep...

You continue to claim some "get your point" and others don't.

As I said, literally everyone commenting here gets your point. It is the most simplistic point possible (See how they tried hard? We should try hard, too!)

But you made a comparison to the Jets knowing that, for better or worse, Giants fans usually have an opinion on them since they share a city and a stadium with us. You weren't trying to talk football. You were trying to be a dick and you succeeded. Then you got called out on it and are now pretending no one gets your shitty point.

Grow up, Rocky.

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I love when fans think they know how hard players are trying on the field or how much "effort" is being put forth. It's wildly entertaining.

BINGO!

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In comment 11924480 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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"we're actually going to have to prove it at some point." We're really looking for things to cling to when the Jets at 1-5 are the inspiration.

LMAO!!

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I'm sorry you can't admit the Jets outplayed the Giants last week, it's a fact.

I thought we played Philly

Moxie dictates whether or not I put my time and money into the Giants. If they don't care, why should I?

I'm sorry you guys are having trouble admitting the Jets are playing with heart and motivation the past two weeks while we played with neither last week. It's a fact. I want some effort this week.

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I'm sorry you guys are having trouble admitting the Jets are playing with heart and motivation the past two weeks

We don't... we aren't...

Never mind. This is getting sad.

How so? It's lazy, results-based analysis. The team got their ass kicked. Effort/fire/motivation are often used to replace detailed analysis. Did Rolle have effort on his pick but not other plays? Where was the effort lacking? I didn't see anyone give up.

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Moxie dictates whether or not I put my time and money into the Giants. If they don't care, why should I? I'm sorry you guys are having trouble admitting the Jets are playing with heart and motivation the past two weeks while we played with neither last week. It's a fact. I want some effort this week.

And that takes a lot to make that list.

He's right. The Giants dont care. We had absolutely ZERO motivation to win last week. None. Zilch. Nada.

In comment 11924749 BrettNYG10 said:

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How so? It's lazy, results-based analysis. The team got their ass kicked. Effort/fire/motivation are often used to replace detailed analysis. Did Rolle have effort on his pick but not other plays? Where was the effort lacking? I didn't see anyone give up.

Bingo!

/endthread2

Tom Coughlin...

Anyone can look at a box score and make proclamations about effort level. It's easy, it's lazy and it's pointless.

I bet the Giants were trying really hard against Atlanta but decided they didn't need to in Philly in their biggest game of the year. Very logical. These guys collectively decided that they could just take the night off. The type of divisional rivalry that has a major impact on the season. Why try, though?

It's just so silly.

We got our fucking asses kicked because we couldn't protect Eli. We couldn't stop the A-gap pressure and we couldn't stop the edge rushers either. I highly doubt it had anything to do with not trying hard enough to do so.

Here's sad

Collective football knowledge of sheep Montana , Ned Beatty and Fek < average Jet fan, And I'm arguing with them...

Pointing to the results doesn't prove your point.

Tom Coughlin said it was a horrendous effort, is he being lazy in his analysis?

We're going into Dallas without Jennings and Cruz, and a regressing O line, are you expecting good things?

We could use Rudy this week. Motivation and attitude > talent. We need to make it happen.

Watch the game, it's a collective lack of effort...

once you accept the premise of the thread - that wins and losses are the direct result of effort alone - then what Rocky is saying makes total sense.

Surely we can all agree that the lone determinant in winning and losing in the NFL is effort, right?

Not lone...

Maverick.

prove Rocky's thoughts wrong... he results into calling everyone names. As if, that is going to make him sound smarter.

You cant prove effort. If he initially said he wanted the Giants to block as well as the Jets did the last two weeks. Or get pressure/stop the run like the Jets did last week... it would be a 9 post thread where everyone would agree.

But he is hanging onto this notion of "effort" and insulting anyone who is anyone to try to make his point. Its like he just doesnt know when to give up.

That you're now attacking the football knowledge of myself and a few other posters, meanwhile you keep leaning on the most lazy analytical tool ever, judging "effort," while multiple posters try and tell you it was an Xs and Os situation.

Jesus Christ, dude.

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In comment 11924787 Rocky Thompson said:

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Tom Coughlin said it was a horrendous effort, is he being lazy in his analysis? We're going into Dallas without Jennings and Cruz, and a regressing O line, are you expecting good things? We could use Rudy this week. Motivation and attitude > talent. We need to make it happen.

When he says that, he's not referring to the actual "try" level of the players. He's referring to execution, failure to protect, failure to make a play defensively in the backfield when it's there to be made.

He's referring to the fact that we played like dogshit.

You can get outcoached and have an awful day without it meaning the guys on the field weren't trying.

But appreciate the input...

is being wasted on a false dichotomy.

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But appreciate the input...

It's not really a matter of opinion.

In comment 11924828 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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is being wasted on a false dichotomy.

And the fact we need to be more like the Jets because they were competitive in two losses.

I just don't see what logical sense it makes to think that a team went out onto the field in a hostile environment, in a game that had plenty of juice against a division rival in the biggest game of the year to date... and decided not to try hard.

Why would that happen? Why would this team collectively say "hey, forget this one.. " ?

It just doesn't make any sense to me.

In comment 11924841 arcarsenal said:

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I just don't see what logical sense it makes to think that a team went out onto the field in a hostile environment, in a game that had plenty of juice against a division rival in the biggest game of the year to date... and decided not to try hard. Why would that happen? Why would this team collectively say "hey, forget this one.. " ? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

It doesnt. 99% of the people on this thread agree. 1 person doesnt.

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Q: Is it important to you as you watch the tape and go over with the players to know why they performed at the level they did last night. A: It’s a very, very, worthy question. I wish there was an answer that was simple, there isn't. As I mentioned to the coaches, I really thought we were in a position to play well. I knew we were very, very excited about playing. As far as trying to over-analyze, or anything of that nature, the simple matter of fact is that Philadelphia won the physical battle and they executed at a much higher level than we did. That goes for all phases.

Coughlin Transcript 10/13

In comment 11924813 dep026 said:

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prove Rocky's thoughts wrong... he results into calling everyone names. As if, that is going to make him sound smarter. You cant prove effort. If he initially said he wanted the Giants to block as well as the Jets did the last two weeks. Or get pressure/stop the run like the Jets did last week... it would be a 9 post thread where everyone would agree. But he is hanging onto this notion of "effort" and insulting anyone who is anyone to try to make his point. Its like he just doesnt know when to give up.

If you're going to make the claim, at least point to certain plays as an example. It's silly.

I think there are games where effort could be an issue - when teams are eliminated, for example. But in a game against a hated division rival that could significantly impact whether we make the playoffs or not? I'm calling bullshit.

There's a few people here that get it.

You do realize that according to that article I linked I'm going to have to take you for shorter walks and tighten your leash to get you to stop following me everywhere...

When in Wilmington, look me up, I'll buy you lunch.

Game/Set/Match

Off to the gym, have a good day people, wear green tomorrow, Go Irish!

In comment 11924854 Tommy_M said:

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Quote: Q: Is it important to you as you watch the tape and go over with the players to know why they performed at the level they did last night. A: It’s a very, very, worthy question. I wish there was an answer that was simple, there isn't. As I mentioned to the coaches, I really thought we were in a position to play well. I knew we were very, very excited about playing. As far as trying to over-analyze, or anything of that nature, the simple matter of fact is that Philadelphia won the physical battle and they executed at a much higher level than we did. That goes for all phases. Coughlin Transcript 10/13

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"Philadelphia won the physical battle and they EXECUTED at a much higher level than we did. That goes for all phases.

Execution!? I'm all in favor!

In comment 11924745 Rocky Thompson said:

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Moxie dictates whether or not I put my time and money into the Giants. If they don't care, why should I? I'm sorry you guys are having trouble admitting the Jets are playing with heart and motivation the past two weeks while we played with neither last week. It's a fact. I want some effort this week.

Can't say I'd blame you if you decided to walk away from the Giants after this past week. Football is supposed to be entertaining, and that was anything but.

...however...

There seems to be some implication on your part that the Giants aren't trying. They sure as hell didn't look like they weren't trying up until Philly, and whatever that disaster was out there on Sunday, you can't simply point to effort or heart as a reason why they lost.

Fact is, Philly's a better team than NE (as much as I hate to say it). We've got a new offense with a few key injuries (Cruz going down didn't help the already reshuffled OL and Jennings being out). It's just as easy to point to us being outcoached as it is to being outplayed.

The worst thing you can do is football is take the short term view. It's easy to look at Sunday and say the team is gutless. Going up to Philly and losing wasn't going to be the end of the world, and it shouldn't be. How they respond to that is going to be a bigger indicator of their heart and motivation than last week's game ever would be.

The Giants don't deal in moral victories

and think I was trying to support what you were saying, but thanks for the offer?

In comment 11924876 Tommy_M said:

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and think I was trying to support what you were saying, but thanks for the offer?

Hahahaha

The Giants seemed to be preparing by talking shit all (last) week. And maybe that's down to another word, 'coaching'. The Eagles seemed better prepared and coached coming into the game. Maybe the Giants should take inspiration from that? You know, a winning effort?

what we have all been saying is that Philly executed better than us, and all of sudden we are wrong? Huh.

I think the best thing for Rocky to do is to go to the gym and lose the bookmark to this page.

In comment 11924860 Rocky Thompson said:

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There's a few people here that get it.

Obviously you dont get it, because what Tommy posted disproves EVERYTHING you tried to say.

So does that mean you will buy us all lunch for making you look foolish?

when a team isn't giving any effort. I never thought that was the case with the Giants this past Sunday. They just got beat.

It happens sometimes.

In comment 11924876 Tommy_M said:

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and think I was trying to support what you were saying, but thanks for the offer?

LOL...Ouch!

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when the Giants came close against NE, the Giants don't believe in moral victories

believes in moral victories. Fans do but teams and players don't.

A lot of effort, nothing accomplished.

Imagine what he's like at the gym. 'Well, I drove here. That seems like enough.'

stated in that quote by tommy from TC, lack of execution and being out physical by the Eagles. It was just one of those games where nothing worked for them. It wasn't like they were giving no effort all game long. It happens as in like "shit happens".

that I believe it was Rolle, a team leader, who also said that the team didn't fight against the Eagles last week and that he was disappointed by that lack of fight. So although I see everyone's point about Rocky saying that we should look to a 1-6 team (that just lost again last night) for inspiration as a bit... odd... there are also team leaders who questioned the effort that the team put forth last week so Rocky isn't exactly alone in his belief that the team didn't put forth a good enough effort to win the game.

Now back to your scheduled name-calling and insults...

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when a team isn't giving any effort. I never thought that was the case with the Giants this past Sunday. They just got beat. It happens sometimes.

And for the record... I agree 100% with this.

In comment 11924854 Tommy_M said:

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Quote: Q: Is it important to you as you watch the tape and go over with the players to know why they performed at the level they did last night. A: It’s a very, very, worthy question. I wish there was an answer that was simple, there isn't. As I mentioned to the coaches, I really thought we were in a position to play well. I knew we were very, very excited about playing. As far as trying to over-analyze, or anything of that nature, the simple matter of fact is that Philadelphia won the physical battle and they executed at a much higher level than we did. That goes for all phases. Coughlin Transcript 10/13

This proves exactly what I was saying about lack of effort and because of that lack of effort we could take a little inspiration from the Jets and not get blown out again this week.
No lunch for you Tommy! Lol

Also proves that the sheep will jump on anything thought negative against their target even if they had to wait for someone else's misunderstanding to jump...

In comment 11924928 T-Bone said:

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that I believe it was Rolle, a team leader, who also said that the team didn't fight against the Eagles last week and that he was disappointed by that lack of fight. So although I see everyone's point about Rocky saying that we should look to a 1-6 team (that just lost again last night) for inspiration as a bit... odd... there are also team leaders who questioned the effort that the team put forth last week so Rocky isn't exactly alone in his belief that the team didn't put forth a good enough effort to win the game. Now back to your scheduled name-calling and insults...

What would anyone expect them to say after getting shut out against a division rival that way? 'I really liked our effort out there. It just didn't happen for us.'

'Effort' is a fairly all-encompassing word. It doesn't solely refer to a degree of 'trying'.

I have a client at 1pm. She makes me work harder than I would like nowadays.

Well, there it is, some of you get it, most can't admit the Jets put in a better effort the past 2 weeks, some of you disagree just because it's me. Let's just hope the Jints don't suck this week like they did last week...

there are some, like Rocky and Rolle, who will think that the Giants lost as badly as they did against the Eagles and chalk it up to effort. These folks appear to believe that because they believe that the Giants are a good enough team that they shouldn't have lost the way they did to the Eagles but did so because of a lack of effort.

Then there are some, like the rest of us, who believe that it wasn't a lack of effort that was the reason why the team received the ass-kicking it did but a lack of execution and maybe... just maybe... the Eagles are simply the better team RIGHT NOW. Doesn't mean they will be when we see them again on December 28th but for that night, they were the better team and it wasn't particularly close.

It's a matter of perspective and if Rocky and Rolle want to think that the team lost the way they did because of a lack of effort, he has a right to do so. Doesn't mean that we all HAVE to agree with him and he should be prepared for those that disagree with them and when they do insults and name-calling doesn't need to be part of it going both ways. Whether it be a lack of effort... or a lack of execution... let's all just hope that we see better of either or both this coming Sunday against the Cowboys.

Guess the whole game/set/match thing didn't go as planned. In keeping with the entire thread. (Or maybe it did. Again, really difficult to tell.)

In comment 11924947 vibe4giants said:

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Guess the whole game/set/match thing didn't go as planned. In keeping with the entire thread. (Or maybe it did. Again, really difficult to tell.)

The effort just wasn't there.

In comment 11924938 vibe4giants said:

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In comment 11924928 T-Bone said: Quote: that I believe it was Rolle, a team leader, who also said that the team didn't fight against the Eagles last week and that he was disappointed by that lack of fight. So although I see everyone's point about Rocky saying that we should look to a 1-6 team (that just lost again last night) for inspiration as a bit... odd... there are also team leaders who questioned the effort that the team put forth last week so Rocky isn't exactly alone in his belief that the team didn't put forth a good enough effort to win the game. Now back to your scheduled name-calling and insults... What would anyone expect them to say after getting shut out against a division rival that way? 'I really liked our effort out there. It just didn't happen for us.' 'Effort' is a fairly all-encompassing word. It doesn't solely refer to a degree of 'trying'.

I see no reason why Rolle couldn't say what your quote says above and feel just fine for saying it. Eli pretty much does it after every game. I also don't see why Rolle (and Rocky) MUST see it the same way some of us do or else they're wrong. It's their opinion and they're entitled to it. Everyone got on Rocky for his opinion and questioned how he, as a fan, can judge the effort the team put up last week... but when his opinion gets validated by a team leader's opinion it's 'Well, what do you expect him to say?'.

In comment 11924945 T-Bone said:

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there are some, like Rocky and Rolle, who will think that the Giants lost as badly as they did against the Eagles and chalk it up to effort.

Again, really don't think you can expect that Rolle's boilerplate post-game comments are the end/all be all of what he thinks happened. He's saying what he always says. Because, what else is he going to say? 'We gave a great effort and they kicked our asses. That's the best we can do, so I don't know where we go from here.'

All he's saying is, 'We have to do better than that.' But ask him how inspiring he finds the Jets and see what you get.

In comment 11924951 T-Bone said:

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In comment 11924938 vibe4giants said: Quote: In comment 11924928 T-Bone said: Quote: but when his opinion gets validated by a team leader's opinion it's 'Well, what do you expect him to say?'.

You see Rolle's comment as validating this thread. I see two blindingly obvious statements. Both saying the Giants need to do better than they did last Sunday. (But only one suggesting the Jets should be inspiration for that improvement.) We disagree as to the level of insight these thoughts provide.

http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Safety-Antrel-Rolle-on-teams-effort/14b11559-a21c-4add-ae53-7d3be1f2ded8

http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Safety-Antrel-Rolle-on-defensive-effort-/05adb517-cf2a-4761-ba3f-152cf149d810

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/19/antrel-rolle-calls-players-only-meeting-tells-giants-to-expect-to-dominate/

http://www.si.com/si-wire/2011/12/19/antrel-rolle-calls-out-giants-teammates

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ny-giants-safety-antrel-rolle-seething-effort-philadelphia-eagles-article-1.981571

http://prod.www.giants.clubs.nfl.com/videos/videos/Safety-Antrel-Rolle-on-defensive-effort/d1ab490b-3df5-4315-9a4c-7fcd697665fe

http://footbasket.com/nfl/antrel-rolle-disses-giants-offense-passion/

In comment 11924917 vibe4giants said:

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A lot of effort, nothing accomplished. Imagine what he's like at the gym. 'Well, I drove here. That seems like enough.'

Hahah!

In comment 11924962 vibe4giants said:

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In comment 11924951 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 11924938 vibe4giants said: Quote: In comment 11924928 T-Bone said: Quote: but when his opinion gets validated by a team leader's opinion it's 'Well, what do you expect him to say?'. You see Rolle's comment as validating this thread. I see two blindingly obvious statements. Both saying the Giants need to do better than they did last Sunday. (But only one suggesting the Jets should be inspiration for that improvement.) We disagree as to the level of insight these thoughts provide.

Well then it appears you're seeing only what you want to see. Even though I actually AGREE with the majority here... and disagree with Rocky and Rolle's opinion that the team lost because of a lack of effort last week... I have no problem with them believing what they want to believe and I can see their point and yet still disagree with it. Usually whenever Rolle gives one of his quotes about the state of the team all I usually see it most saying 'I love Rolle!' and 'What a great team leader! Wish we had more of them!' and I've rarely seen someone say 'Well... what's he supposed to say?'... and yet, that's exactly what's occurring here because most don't agree with Rocky and Rolle's opinion.

If Rocky's opinion wasn't backed up by an actual player (and not just any player but a team leader) then I could see most everyone calling Rocky's opinion stupid, dumb, unfounded... whatever you want. But the fact that it was backed up by an actual player that tells me that maybe there's some merit to that opinion (even though I disagree with it).

nobody really disagrees vehmently on the effort part. It's the using the Jets as inpsiration that is the sticking point.

Thinking a poster is supporting him when he's doing the opposite
Digging in on the worst point ever
And all of it coming from Rocky...

This thread is gold.

it was poor game planning and poor execution. That being said, once things got bad, i saw a lack of fight. They were defeated early and it made things much worse. Unless Rex Ryan can come and gameplan for this defense, there's absolutely nothing we can take away from the jets game.

See my 9:41am post. He's not trying to make an actual point here. He's trying to compare the Giants to the Jets to rile people up. There is no theory here.

It's what Rolle always says,

And 'Rolle STFU!' has been a BBI meme for some time. Everyone loves him on the field. But, at the end of the day , only about half the board gets invested in his words.

The intersection of Rolle's quotes with this thread isn't as significant as you're making it. It isn't significant at all. (And, again, you keep leaving out the whole 'Jets as inspiration' concept, which is the reason this thread exists.)

And yet, he's a team leader. You'd think that a guy who ALWAYS says the same things after a loss would eventually be seen as a phony to his teammates after repeating the same thing over and over again.

YAJ - Again, I see the 'oddness' in Rocky saying that we should be looking at a 1-6 team for inspiration but, again, it's his opinion that the Jets had more fight in them than the Giants did last week because of how they played against two of the better teams in the league... and a player happens to agree with him and validate his opinion. Again, if Rocky was alone with that thought it'd be one thing... but then he had Rolle agreeing with him and instead of thinking 'Hmm, well... maybe Rocky's point isn't so 'out there'.' it's now on Rolle... a player and team leader... who's opinion is discounted.

Whatever... I said what I had to say. I just know now that the next time Rolle makes a statement about the team I hope it's as quickly and easily dismissed as this one appears to be because it lines up with Rocky's thoughts.

that you've dug your heels in on the wrong thread, you might want to take a step back.

Or you might want to drop an anvil on your computer.

I don't care what Randy says about you T-Bone, you're aces in my book.

"You'd think that a guy who ALWAYS says the same things after a loss would eventually be seen as a phony to his teammates after repeating the same thing over and over again"

I'm pretty sure players understand the long-established tradition of speaking in cliches and giving up very little in dealings with the media, and don't use that as a reason to change their opinions of friends and teammates.

In comment 11925006 T-Bone said:

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And yet, he's a team leader. You'd think that a guy who ALWAYS says the same things after a loss would eventually be seen as a phony to his teammates after repeating the same thing over and over again.

Pretty sure his teammates understand that things said for media consumption are just that. I'm also pretty sure his teammates value what he says to them behind closed doors more than what he says to the media.

I'm really surprised you read boilerplate presser quotes as being super meaningful. More surprised you use them as validation for a premise you don't even believe in.

Discussions with the media. I don't think players pay attention to that shit.

LOL! I'm not trying to play 'peacemaker' as much as say that even though I disagree with Rocky's opinion, I don't think that it's as outlandish as most on this thread seem to want to make it... particularly since a player validates that opinion. Love me some Rocky but if a player didn't back up what his thoughts are then I wouldn't have come to his defense on this subject.

Anyway... like I said, I'm done talking about this. Headed out to lunch (not the gym).

What are you eating? Who are you going with? Are you paying cash or credit?

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There's your problem.

In comment 11925034 T-Bone said:

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. Love me some Rocky

This much was obvious.

In comment 11925010 shepherdsam said:

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that you've dug your heels in on the wrong thread, you might want to take a step back. Or you might want to drop an anvil on your computer.

O'Brien Schofield currently has 4 tackles.

It doesn't matter how the Giants or Cowboys played last week or what the records are. Records are thrown out when Division opponents plays.

How the Jets played last night is completely meaningless to the Giants..

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dep aka Ned Beatty Rocky Thompson : 9:58 am : link : reply You run to a BBI Mod every time you don't like something said.

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Can somebody get this rat off my thread? Rocky Thompson : 10:29 am : link : reply Mods?

In comment 11925052 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 11925010 shepherdsam said: Quote: that you've dug your heels in on the wrong thread, you might want to take a step back. Or you might want to drop an anvil on your computer. O'Brien Schofield currently has 4 tackles.

Is that more than Kiwi? Honest question.

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In comment 11925075 GiantFilthy said:

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This year? Or career?

I go away for a business trip, finally get a few minutes to spend on BBI, and all of a sudden Fekker is the voice of reason?

Must be the jet lag.

"Rocky and Rolle", I like what you did there.

Makes no difference that Coughlin and Rolle validate what I say, you have vibe and the all knowing attack sheep telling you what should be right.
Rule #1 in engaging on BBI, never admit you are wrong, discredit the witness.

Coughlin says we were physically out matched, if you don't take that to mean a lack of effort by us or a better effort by Philly, the only other way it can be taken is by admitting Philly is stronger and better than we are.

The Jets analogy is legit. They got blown out by SD, came back and played better games against two better opponents. The Jints got blown out by Philly, if they come back and play better against Dallas, there's still hope, if not, well, good luck in Seattle boys.

I can see opposing arguments when they understand what I'm trying to say, most of the arguments are coming from posters that would argue with me if I posted "The sky is blue" or didn't like the Jet analogy.

I appreciate the level headed observation on your part, don't lose any friends over it, I never met a BBIer ( or 30) that I couldn't handle...

In comment 11925062 GiantFilthy said:

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Quote: dep aka Ned Beatty Rocky Thompson : 9:58 am : link : reply You run to a BBI Mod every time you don't like something said. Quote: Can somebody get this rat off my thread? Rocky Thompson : 10:29 am : link : reply Mods?

Hahaha...Perfectly epitomizes Rocky's delusional logic

Someone joins his crusade. Needs friends wherever he can find them. Forget the fact Coughlin said we got out played and out executed. He said something along the lines of what it seemed to be effort but wasn't but I have to make it seems like he said effort because using effort is an effortless way of saying I made no effort understanding how little effort it take to understand comparing giants/jets effort in the game has nothing g to do with each other.

Funny, I never figured Filthy for a pileoner, oh well, doesn't matter if there's 30 or 31 of you...

In comment 11925141 Wuphat said:

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I go away for a business trip, finally get a few minutes to spend on BBI, and all of a sudden Fekker is the voice of reason? Must be the jet lag.

Hey c'mon man. I wished you a happy birthday!

I'm gonna have to start claiming you as a dependent on my taxes this year.

You do realize that if we were in the same room, you'd be sitting on the couch with Mohammet, Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton...

In comment 11925215 Rocky Thompson said:

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I say, you have vibe and the all knowing attack sheep telling you what should be right. Rule #1 in engaging on BBI, never admit you are wrong, discredit the witness.

Like suggesting that everyone who disagrees with you is just 'sheep'? Over and over and over and over again? Because you can't really argue your way around the meaninglessness of what professional athletes and coaches say in their Press Conferences?

Irony is among the many things clearly beyond your grasp.

But I hope you were able to coach that lady up today with your Jets-like power to inspire. Because, like the Jets, your record is not much to look at.

I didn't actually include you with the sheep but if the wooly sock fits...

I got Coughlin and Rolle saying the same thing I'm saying, you say it's worthless banter for the press but you have no one to quote on that, in a world of clear minded observation, that means you're pretty much talking out of your ass...

The jets are weird.

clown, then when they call everyone who disagrees with them "sheep" multiple times. The only people who use that term over and over are whacked out conspiracy theorists

Rocky - sometimes it isn't everyone else who doesn't understand, it's you.

Probably Pinto, back then and I would have probably listened to the angel. I was a little nerdy starting college, athletic but not really cool yet...

wasted effort.

But, no. It's exactly what it seems. When the Giants/Giants thread didn't get traction, you tried again. And, yes. You trolled your own team's board successfully.

Moral victory?

In comment 11925260 Rocky Thompson said:

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I didn't actually include you with the sheep but if the wooly sock fits... I got Coughlin and Rolle saying the same thing I'm saying, you say it's worthless banter for the press but you have no one to quote on that, in a world of clear minded observation, that means you're pretty much talking out of your ass...

What is this clear minded observation technique you speak of? I think you are reading into their media-speak what you want of it to bolster your own point whether what they have stated is just meaningless words to the press or not.

No it isn't...

That's your own interpretation.

If we lost 27-14 instead of 27-0, does this thread exist?

Given the number of times Rolle has used passion/effort as an excuse (including in situations of competing with division rivals for playoff spots/positioning numerous times), does it seem likely that we lay down in big spots? Or, are we frequently just not good enough and inconsistent?

Was the line's dismal performance due to effort? Or did the Eagles scheme correctly and dominate an OL with a lot of issues?

Did OBJ, in his second NFL game and first prime time game, lack effort? There wasn't a player out there I thought gave up. They were just outplayed and outcoached. I didn't think McAdoo called a great game and did a poor job of adjusting to new looks by the Eagles. He's a rookie OC, that's expected. I expect him to adjust this week. But there wasn't a lack of effort.

Trying to reason with this guy for this long takes more patience than I would have to offer... I just want to remind you guys that he is not here to talk football. He is here to antagonize you.

In comment 11925277 BrettNYG10 said:

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That's your own interpretation. If we lost 27-14 instead of 27-0, does this thread exist? Given the number of times Rolle has used passion/effort as an excuse (including in situations of competing with division rivals for playoff spots/positioning numerous times), does it seem likely that we lay down in big spots? Or, are we frequently just not good enough and inconsistent? Was the line's dismal performance due to effort? Or did the Eagles scheme correctly and dominate an OL with a lot of issues? Did OBJ, in his second NFL game and first prime time game, lack effort? There wasn't a player out there I thought gave up. They were just outplayed and outcoached. I didn't think McAdoo called a great game and did a poor job of adjusting to new looks by the Eagles. He's a rookie OC, that's expected. I expect him to adjust this week. But there wasn't a lack of effort.

Brett-y! Breett-y! Brett-y!

In comment 11925282 Mike in Long Beach said:

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Trying to reason with this guy for this long takes more patience than I would have to offer... I just want to remind you guys that he is not here to talk football. He is here to antagonize you.

Patience isn't a quality I possess - I'm just wasting time until 4:00 hits.

In comment 11925283 vibe4giants said:

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In comment 11925277 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: That's your own interpretation. If we lost 27-14 instead of 27-0, does this thread exist? Given the number of times Rolle has used passion/effort as an excuse (including in situations of competing with division rivals for playoff spots/positioning numerous times), does it seem likely that we lay down in big spots? Or, are we frequently just not good enough and inconsistent? Was the line's dismal performance due to effort? Or did the Eagles scheme correctly and dominate an OL with a lot of issues? Did OBJ, in his second NFL game and first prime time game, lack effort? There wasn't a player out there I thought gave up. They were just outplayed and outcoached. I didn't think McAdoo called a great game and did a poor job of adjusting to new looks by the Eagles. He's a rookie OC, that's expected. I expect him to adjust this week. But there wasn't a lack of effort. Brett-y! Breett-y! Brett-y!

You're making me incredibly self-conscious realizing that my name would suck as a chant.

all you did was hug him.

In comment 11925290 vibe4giants said:

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all you did was hug him.

And he's only had 3 good games since.

In comment 11925229 Rocky Thompson said:

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Funny, I never figured Filthy for a pileoner, oh well, doesn't matter if there's 30 or 31 of you...

See the asinine logic here? Its not that Rocky is being a whiny hypocrite when he begs the mods for help. No, instead in his warped reality world its GiantFilthy who is wrong for pointing out Rocky's hypocrisy.

Get back on the meds asap

Uniting different and sometimes antagonistic posters in the name of combating stupidity.

I dub this combat team...THE ATTACK SHEEP!

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Hey c'mon man. I wished you a happy birthday!

And I said thanks to everyone.

Seriously, though. Good job with trying to get through to Rockhead

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Uniting different and sometimes antagonistic posters in the name of combating stupidity. I dub this combat team...THE ATTACK SHEEP!

Sire, Baaaa, sir!

In comment 11924721 Rocky Thompson said:

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Mods? Sniper? Anybody?

Montana, this is the original post. Filthy edited it apparently to enhance his point. If you bothered to check you would have seen that. It's not asinine logic, it's fact.

Your motives are transparent, your style old and tired. When was the last time you started an original football thread? Never? You sit back and wait for someone you and your idiot brethren can jump on and try to make them look stupid. That's why you hate me, I don't care how many of you there are, when I'm right, I'm right. The problem with you and yours is that it keeps other people who don't want to deal with your mob mentality bullshit from posting what they think.

I don't need validation or back from anyone, although it's appreciated now and then. My back here, besides the few posters that actually understood my point, is Coughlin and Rolle. Of course it was dismissed as coach speak and motivational fodder but that's what you people do, spin, discredit, lie, cheat, anything except post an original thought. That shit don't bother me, 12 idiots just looking for pack beat down don't outrank one intelligent poster. I just backhand you bitches like flies off my lunch.

Fact here is I didn't start this fire. Several people disagreed with me whom I addressed respectfully until, Ned Beatty, Fek and a few others started attacking me. You try to degrade the quality of the thread but failed to prove me wrong.

Let me know when you have an original thought about Giants football, or anything for that matter, I'd love to present on that thread, but for now, crawl back into your hole...

In comment 11924536 dep026 said:

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one of the most over used cliches ever in sports? I believe the Giants played hard against Philly, they just didnt play well. I dont think there were anybody who was purposely dogging it so we would lose. I dont think a single person on BBI know "how hard" players play. We can see that they didnt play well. So hopefully this week the Giants play better so they have a better chance of winning.

This was my first ppst.This is an attack? I think someone is a little sensitive when people disagee with him.

In comment 11924565 Rocky Thompson said:

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A football thread that makes sense goes misunderstood by BBIers, who woulda thought...

And your reply. Who did the attacking ?

We're looking up to the fucking Jets now? I could've sworn they lost last night as well the past 5 games in a row. 30th ranked offense, 25th ranked defense. They're going to have a new coach next year and their GM just gave up a conditional pick to Seattle so they could sign Glass Joe for 6 million a year.

Yeah, let's be like them because they played just a bit worse than the fucking Patriots. This place is unbelievable sometimes.

I'd like to poke fun at the OP but can't even come up with something that hasn't been said by anyone else.

And yes, this is one of the worst threads in BBI history.

In comment 11925572 Rocky Thompson said:

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In comment 11924721 Rocky Thompson said: Quote: Mods? Sniper? Anybody? Montana, this is the original post. Filthy edited it apparently to enhance his point. If you bothered to check you would have seen that. It's not asinine logic, it's fact. Your motives are transparent, your style old and tired. When was the last time you started an original football thread? Never? You sit back and wait for someone you and your idiot brethren can jump on and try to make them look stupid. That's why you hate me, I don't care how many of you there are, when I'm right, I'm right. The problem with you and yours is that it keeps other people who don't want to deal with your mob mentality bullshit from posting what they think. I don't need validation or back from anyone, although it's appreciated now and then. My back here, besides the few posters that actually understood my point, is Coughlin and Rolle. Of course it was dismissed as coach speak and motivational fodder but that's what you people do, spin, discredit, lie, cheat, anything except post an original thought. That shit don't bother me, 12 idiots just looking for pack beat down don't outrank one intelligent poster. I just backhand you bitches like flies off my lunch. Fact here is I didn't start this fire. Several people disagreed with me whom I addressed respectfully until, Ned Beatty, Fek and a few others started attacking me. You try to degrade the quality of the thread but failed to prove me wrong. Let me know when you have an original thought about Giants football, or anything for that matter, I'd love to present on that thread, but for now, crawl back into your hole...

LOL...I had hundreds of original thoughts while you were banned and begging to be let back in. Since your return your batting about 95% on getting ridiculed on anything football related you post. The best thing for you is stick to making song threads and continue trying too hard to reconnect with anyone who gave you the time of day in the past.

In comment 11925693 bignygfan said:

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I'd like to poke fun at the OP but can't even come up with something that hasn't been said by anyone else. And yes, this is one of the worst threads in BBI history.

Oh stop being a sheep...No worries Rocky's shelf life is about another 3 weeks before being kicked off again

Amazing I was listed as 1 of his 2 main attackers. I feel like many others engaged far more.

It is absolutely a compliment though, Rocky. Thank yku. The further from your way of thinking I get, the better.