Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
And how did ND do without Golson? Fisher was left with crap when Bowden left and stuck with Mickey Andrews as DC.
How did Florida do when Tebow Left?
Alabama seems to be the only team that wins every year.
Spare me the bullshit about Jimbo being left with crap. Jimbo Fisher was their main recruiter from 2007 on. He knew he was going to be the coach when Bobby retired, he recruited most of those players they had in 2010-2011-2012 and they were mediocre each year. He also had 2 quarterbacks who NFL teams decided were good enough to be first round NFL picks. Brian Kelly took ND and was left with Tommy fucking Rees, a guy who couldn't even make a training camp with an NFL team. And Everett Golson was a 3 star talent coming out of high school according to all of the experts, Winston was a can't miss stud according to everyone.
looked like they were blocking. It does seem like one of them wasn't as guilty as the other, but put side by side when a guy scores a wide open TD and defenders have their arms up about not being able to get over there, and you're going to draw a flag.
Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
He won the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season as FSU head coach and a 12-2 record, without Jameis. He turned the program around after it fell off a cliff in the latter years of St. Bobby. You can hope for whatever, but his recruiting classes are right up there with Alabama now, and the FSU program is going to be relevant a long time after Jameis, as long as he sticks around, and I think he will.
But that's irrelevant. Is it a legit penalty, even if it isn't called consistently? Yes.
My issue is if you're going to let them get away with it and set a precedent, you can't then just call it out of the blue because you feel like it. You set that precedent that it wouldn't be called, so players think they are fine doing what they did.
And don't agree with the call. Nd fan so call me biased, but FSU db's were the aggressors when you look at who made contact first. Fuller angles out at the snap and then makes a quick step towards the inside. Darby follows and puts his hands on him first. So as Robinson is running wide Darby is following the guy he was covering inside and initiates contact. Ramsey/prosise not even close to a pick.
Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
He won the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season as FSU head coach and a 12-2 record, without Jameis. He turned the program around after it fell off a cliff in the latter years of St. Bobby. You can hope for whatever, but his recruiting classes are right up there with Alabama now, and the FSU program is going to be relevant a long time after Jameis, as long as he sticks around, and I think he will.
Won the orange bowl against probably the worst orange bowl participant ever. Convenient that you left that out.
Take a look at this schedule and tell me 12-2 was an accomplishment with the talent they have.
Murray State
Savannah State
Wake Forest
Clemson
USF
NC State
Boston College
Miami
Duke
Virginia Tech (7-6)
Maryland
Florida
Jimbo can't hide behind Bobby's mess, he got there in 2007 and took over as OC and their lead recruiter, and he knew he was going to take over. That was his ship from 2007 on but he didn't have the title of Head Coach.
Georgia Tech
Northern Illinois
Any decent team wins 12 games against that schedule. They played 2 good teams all year and lost twice.
They ran that rub play several times during the game, but none of those times were the receivers so obviously blocking. It was a penalty, a clear call, not even debatable. They made it waaaaay too obvious and they got pinched. Game over. Btw, they still had a play after that to try and win and they failed. Notre Dame will probably lose another 2-3 games this year, but they can hang their hat that they played very well and almost knocked off the champs.
They ran that rub play several times during the game, but none of those times were the receivers so obviously blocking. It was a penalty, a clear call, not even debatable. They made it waaaaay too obvious and they got pinched. Game over. Btw, they still had a play after that to try and win and they failed. Notre Dame will probably lose another 2-3 games this year, but they can hang their hat that they played very well and almost knocked off the champs.
The first time Prosise absolutely was blocking, and they didn't call it. Watch it again, it may have even been worse than this. Yeah, they had a 4th and goal from the 18, that's like a 1% play if that. I though the fair thing to do on that play would be to call holding on Ramsey, and offensive pass interference. Puts the ball right back on the 2 yard line.
And get the fuck out of here with probably lose another 2-3 games. They have 2 games left that they'll even have a chance at losing, and they are more talented than both of those teams.
tomorrow and watch how many times they run plays like that just as blatant of picks that are not called. He's made a living on those picks for nearly 2 decades now, and I never see them called.
Frustrating as shit to see them decide to call it now and wreck ND's season
Are you going to cry all night about it? I feel sad for you. It's a penalty. There's a way to run the rub play and it's legal. They ran the pick play and it's not. Pretty easy call for most.
And again, the call was on #7 Fuller, not on #20 Prosise.
BTW, when you are an assistant head coach to Bobby Bowden, the face of the program is still Bobby Bowden, until it's not. It's no secret down here that FSU started getting the NFL-type body recruits after Bobby left. You can be called the "main recruiter" or whatever you want, but the head coach was still Bobby, and, despite the fact he is a living coaching legend, the game had passed him by. It handicaps you as a recruiter. You can try to deny this, but you'd be wrong. As further evidence, it's quite coincidental that FSU started getting the top 5 recruiting classes again after Bobby left.
And Jimbo winning the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season, and a national title in his 4th, is an enormous accomplishment, and Texas would've loved to pry him away from FSU this past offseason, but Jimbo wasn't interested.
Say what you want. The team just had a QB leave to go to WVU who just knocked off #4 Baylor today, and another QB that pushed to be the starting QB at Alabama (Coker). The Noles have the kind of talent now that they are subsidizing other teams.
They likely aren't going to win the national championship this year, but they will be in the conversation for years to come, with or without Jameis.
stats for the game say that the penalty was called on Prosise, not Fuller.
The official stats for the game is incorrect. The ref made the call on #7. I replayed it on my DVR, so did Blake and he admitted it as well. The official stats are likely going off of the TV feed... as the official was getting somewhat drowned out by the crowd noise, and Herbstreit assumed it was Prosise and called it that way. But if you listen, the ref clearly called it on Fuller. He says #7. So sad. But I agree that the penalty could've been called fairly on both players.
I'm a good guy, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt anywhere I could. Do you know how much it hurts me to respect Greg? I have to, he's earned it.
What have you done, anywhere, anytime?
Ya know, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this.
Make a post, an original post that people might give you shit for and you're cool.
We don't have to agree, just post an original thought, that's all. Then maybe I'll tell you about my dinner with John Elway Franco Harris, Tommy Lasorda and Martin Mull. At the 92 Super Bowl in Minny. Elway and Harris never got a word in, Laorda was great until Martin Mull had us all pissing our pants. That's where LT stuck me with the $150 bartab. I'm connected, you're a jealous wannabe, shut the fuck up, but I mean that nicely. Waiting for your response...
Notre Dame is going to lose to Arizona State next week in the desert. Then they are going to lose at least one of their remaining 3 games, I mean really, I wouldn't pick ND -10 on any of those remaining games. Then there is the bowl game. They barely beat a shitty UNC team, and squeaked by Stanford.
Notre Dame played great tonight... they went up a weight class and fought hard... but honestly, ND will be back to the lovable losers in no time.
if they called it on Fuller it was absolute bullshit. There is no rule that says you have to run a route, so saying that is meaningless. And Fuller did run a route, the fucking corner on him blew the coverage and instead of passing him off and going to Robinson, he ran with Fuller, and Fuller did exactly what every other guy does who runs a fucking rub route.
Watch this replay and tell me what Fuller did wrong.
Cody Riggs got called for holding that cost ND 4 points, the right call but conveniently Jalen Ramsey was not called for the same thing when he held Prosise right at the snap.
FSU blew the coverage because they had 2 guys playing man and one playing zone, and then bitched their way into a flag.
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Notre Dame is going to lose to Arizona State next week in the desert. Then they are going to lose at least one of their remaining 3 games, I mean really, I wouldn't pick ND -10 on any of those remaining games. Then there is the bowl game. They barely beat a shitty UNC team, and squeaked by Stanford.
Notre Dame played great tonight... they went up a weight class and fought hard... but honestly, ND will be back to the lovable losers in no time.
Go fuck yourself. You don't have the slighest fucking clue about ND. How about FSU in a dog fight against a worthless NC State squad? Based on that I'll say FSU loses 2 more games, funny how that works
What's the matter Mook? Come on man, I was just trying to tweak ya and I guess it worked. I'm cool with FSU not winning it all this year. Still basking in the glow of last year. But come on, you can't really have this level of confidence in ND... I'll tell you, Brian Kelly is a good coach... he had them well-prepared and they played their asses off. But come on... ND having ANY shot at winning the national title in the near future is clearly wishful thinking.
What's the matter Mook? Come on man, I was just trying to tweak ya and I guess it worked. I'm cool with FSU not winning it all this year. Still basking in the glow of last year. But come on, you can't really have this level of confidence in ND... I'll tell you, Brian Kelly is a good coach... he had them well-prepared and they played their asses off. But come on... ND having ANY shot at winning the national title in the near future is clearly wishful thinking.
Mystique? Doesn't mean shit.
Why shouldn't I have this level of confidence in ND? There are two remaining games on their schedule that they could lose. AZ State and USC. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lost one or even both. They will absolutely not lose 3 games from here on out, like you suggested. Golson has lost exactly two games as a starter, and now he's going to lose 3 in the matter of a month when he only has two tough games?
at their roster and recruiting and what they will bring back and tell me they have no shot at winning a national championship next year. It's not wishful thinking by any means. And they were clearly good enough to play with FSU this year, and there is not one clear dominant team this year so why not them? We watched the same game tonight. There was very little to nothing that separated FSU from ND this year, the game came down to 2 yards. Notre Dame didn't get pushed around, FSU didn't outclass them with their athletes. This isn't ND of 2012, they have speed to go up against anyone. And their team is one of the youngest in the country, they bring back basically everyone next year and will add Keivarae Russell, who will be like adding a 5 star recruit.
ND played a terrific first half, and FSU showed up in the 2nd half and was clearly the better team. None of that final sequence would have happened without 1) some questionable playcalling on FSU's last possession where they conceded a 3 and out punt, an 2)a fluky 4th and 18 conversion where the ball was basically chucked up with a prayer that was answered.
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
ND played a terrific first half, and FSU showed up in the 2nd half and was clearly the better team. None of that final sequence would have happened without 1) some questionable playcalling on FSU's last possession where they conceded a 3 and out punt, an 2)a fluky 4th and 18 conversion where the ball was basically chucked up with a prayer that was answered.
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
FSU won by 4 points and 2 yards. ND outgained FSU by 100+ yards. The idea that FSU has so much more talent top to bottom is bullshit, it certainly didn't show up on the field at any point in the game. Both teams have top flight QB's. FSU may have more names, but these ND guys are going to become household names real quick, and they are insanely young.
And bullshit on Bama beating FSU by 20. The same Bama who played a mediocre at best Arkansas squad and won by a point. A&M has mailed in their season, they checked out after the Miss State game. Bama isnt anywhere near as good as the score showed today. I'd take FSU on a neutral field over Bama mostly because they have by far the best player on the field and he just so happens to play QB. When you have a top QB, you have a great shot to beat anyone
ND played a terrific first half, and FSU showed up in the 2nd half and was clearly the better team. None of that final sequence would have happened without 1) some questionable playcalling on FSU's last possession where they conceded a 3 and out punt, an 2)a fluky 4th and 18 conversion where the ball was basically chucked up with a prayer that was answered.
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
The 4th and 18 play was not "chucked up" Robinson was wide open, and Golson moved in the pocket and made a terrific throw with a guy about to pop him. You're acting like he threw up a hail mary and it got tipped up in the air or someone caught the ball off of his helmet.
ND is ready for prime time. And they will be next year, too. People keep wanting to down play this team because of what they thought of them going into the season. There is talent and speed everywhere on this team. A lot of that talent right now is freshman and sophomores getting very valuable experience. They will be pre-season top 5 easily next year and they will have earned that ranking. No team is going to bring back as many starters as they will next year.
I'm a good guy, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt anywhere I could. Do you know how much it hurts me to respect Greg? I have to, he's earned it.
What have you done, anywhere, anytime?
Ya know, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this.
Make a post, an original post that people might give you shit for and you're cool.
We don't have to agree, just post an original thought, that's all. Then maybe I'll tell you about my dinner with John Elway Franco Harris, Tommy Lasorda and Martin Mull. At the 92 Super Bowl in Minny. Elway and Harris never got a word in, Laorda was great until Martin Mull had us all pissing our pants. That's where LT stuck me with the $150 bartab. I'm connected, you're a jealous wannabe, shut the fuck up, but I mean that nicely. Waiting for your response...
No your not Rocky..You are an insecure loser who has the maturity level of a 13 year old..The mere fact that you keep trying to equate value and substance to a fucking internet message board speaks volumes of how lame you really are.
You sat here in this thread and tried multiple times to rally support to yourself with other posters and failed miserably. You don't like getting bitched slap then don't start shit, but especially don't continue to humiliate yourself by begging for help and being left stranded....Stop being a little pussy and man the hell up and handle it yourself. But when you can't handle it, don't start it if you don't want to be made the fool again.
Your opinion on what constitutes "Football knowledge" is laughable given the resume of threads you start on the subject. You literally get punk'ed on every football thread you initiate due to the asinine logic and complete lack of understanding of the game you illustrate. I mean seriously you are the laughing stock of this board at this point.
But what really made my night is knowing that I am completely in your head AFTER you tried to start shit...Now go run to the mods with that Nancy..
Oregon lost to Arizona at home. TCU lost to Baylor, who have played exactly two difficult games so far. One a last second win over TCU, and one a two touchdown loss at WVU.
Anyone who puts TCU over ND at this point needs their head examined
must have been too busy calling offensive pass interference to call a penalty on 26 for taking off his helmet.
Would have made it first and goal from the 9 yard line. Fuck I have to go to bed, this one is tough to swallow. If it's a rule, just like the pick play, then fucking call it regardless of the situation. No gray area in that one or not, he took off his helmet on the field as soon as Robinson crossed the goal line, and it wasn't called.
20 is blocking downfield well before the ball is released. It was the perfect example of a rub, pick, whatever. And honestly it didn't need to be so obvious. Robinson had such a great outside release and the throw was on the money. FSU got lucky bringing the heat. Horrible defensive call and extremely lucky to get nailed out by a penalty.
20 is blocking downfield well before the ball is released. It was the perfect example of a rub, pick, whatever. And honestly it didn't need to be so obvious. Robinson had such a great outside release and the throw was on the money. FSU got lucky bringing the heat. Horrible defensive call and extremely lucky to get nailed out by a penalty.
The defenders fucked up the coverage, too. The guy who was supposed to get Robinson ran with Fuller. He was going to be wide open with or without the pick, I know refs don't know that, but it's just a kick in the nuts. I still think it should have been offsetting penalties as Prosise got held, too.
20 is blocking downfield well before the ball is released. It was the perfect example of a rub, pick, whatever. And honestly it didn't need to be so obvious. Robinson had such a great outside release and the throw was on the money. FSU got lucky bringing the heat. Horrible defensive call and extremely lucky to get nailed out by a penalty.
The defenders fucked up the coverage, too. The guy who was supposed to get Robinson ran with Fuller. He was going to be wide open with or without the pick, I know refs don't know that, but it's just a kick in the nuts. I still think it should have been offsetting penalties as Prosise got held, too.
Its a tough call Mook. Especially in that situation. But 20 clearly interfered with 8s ability to cover 88. It was a pick. No doubt. Was there confusion by the FSU defensive backfield? Yeah. No question. They got extremely lucky. But it was the right call IMO.
8 was ever even going to try to cover Prosise, if he was he never would have initiated the contact in the first place and grabbed Prosise at the snap. I think Darby blew the coverage, and as soon as the play ended (which is the exact same point that 26 took off his helmet with no flag) the 3 defenders were yelling at each other like someone fucked up the coverage
have to move on and finally go to bed although I'm just fuckin pissed off and probably wont fall asleep for a while. All my venting hopefully out of my system. Nice chatting with everyone tonight, great game even if it felt like a kick in the nuts at the end. Didn't get the break in the end but still have a shot to get in the playoff. Go Irish. Go Giants
all the news accounts say the penalty was on Prosise. Crazy game. I don't think ND is out of the playoff at all. They are a dangerous team. After last night, I'm convinvced they can play with anybody.
I've seen much worse not called nearly every game.
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Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
And how did ND do without Golson? Fisher was left with crap when Bowden left and stuck with Mickey Andrews as DC.
How did Florida do when Tebow Left?
Alabama seems to be the only team that wins every year.
Spare me the bullshit about Jimbo being left with crap. Jimbo Fisher was their main recruiter from 2007 on. He knew he was going to be the coach when Bobby retired, he recruited most of those players they had in 2010-2011-2012 and they were mediocre each year. He also had 2 quarterbacks who NFL teams decided were good enough to be first round NFL picks. Brian Kelly took ND and was left with Tommy fucking Rees, a guy who couldn't even make a training camp with an NFL team. And Everett Golson was a 3 star talent coming out of high school according to all of the experts, Winston was a can't miss stud according to everyone.
Lol at Montana's attempt at a contributing thread.
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You're call man, I'm off to music threads or SOA reruns...
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Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
He won the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season as FSU head coach and a 12-2 record, without Jameis. He turned the program around after it fell off a cliff in the latter years of St. Bobby. You can hope for whatever, but his recruiting classes are right up there with Alabama now, and the FSU program is going to be relevant a long time after Jameis, as long as he sticks around, and I think he will.
My issue is if you're going to let them get away with it and set a precedent, you can't then just call it out of the blue because you feel like it. You set that precedent that it wouldn't be called, so players think they are fine doing what they did.
Lol at Montana's attempt at a contributing thread.
Like playing cards with my sisters kids.
You're call man, I'm off to music threads or SOA reruns...
You know ...Man...I was just trying to be a..ah....ah..."Factor on the threads man" because that is what life is all about dude!!
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Is a helluva football coach and tremendous recruiter, and he has a southern accent. But at least he's not an ignorant, judgemental fuckwad like some of u pricks.
He must somehow forget how to coach in years where he doesn't have Jameis Winston. He'll go back to the 9-3 coach against a joke schedule that he has been in the non-Winston years
He won the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season as FSU head coach and a 12-2 record, without Jameis. He turned the program around after it fell off a cliff in the latter years of St. Bobby. You can hope for whatever, but his recruiting classes are right up there with Alabama now, and the FSU program is going to be relevant a long time after Jameis, as long as he sticks around, and I think he will.
Won the orange bowl against probably the worst orange bowl participant ever. Convenient that you left that out.
Take a look at this schedule and tell me 12-2 was an accomplishment with the talent they have.
Murray State
Savannah State
Wake Forest
Clemson
USF
NC State
Boston College
Miami
Duke
Virginia Tech (7-6)
Maryland
Florida
Jimbo can't hide behind Bobby's mess, he got there in 2007 and took over as OC and their lead recruiter, and he knew he was going to take over. That was his ship from 2007 on but he didn't have the title of Head Coach.
Georgia Tech
Northern Illinois
Any decent team wins 12 games against that schedule. They played 2 good teams all year and lost twice.
The first time Prosise absolutely was blocking, and they didn't call it. Watch it again, it may have even been worse than this. Yeah, they had a 4th and goal from the 18, that's like a 1% play if that. I though the fair thing to do on that play would be to call holding on Ramsey, and offensive pass interference. Puts the ball right back on the 2 yard line.
And get the fuck out of here with probably lose another 2-3 games. They have 2 games left that they'll even have a chance at losing, and they are more talented than both of those teams.
Frustrating as shit to see them decide to call it now and wreck ND's season
And again, the call was on #7 Fuller, not on #20 Prosise.
BTW, when you are an assistant head coach to Bobby Bowden, the face of the program is still Bobby Bowden, until it's not. It's no secret down here that FSU started getting the NFL-type body recruits after Bobby left. You can be called the "main recruiter" or whatever you want, but the head coach was still Bobby, and, despite the fact he is a living coaching legend, the game had passed him by. It handicaps you as a recruiter. You can try to deny this, but you'd be wrong. As further evidence, it's quite coincidental that FSU started getting the top 5 recruiting classes again after Bobby left.
And Jimbo winning the Orange Bowl in his 3rd season, and a national title in his 4th, is an enormous accomplishment, and Texas would've loved to pry him away from FSU this past offseason, but Jimbo wasn't interested.
Say what you want. The team just had a QB leave to go to WVU who just knocked off #4 Baylor today, and another QB that pushed to be the starting QB at Alabama (Coker). The Noles have the kind of talent now that they are subsidizing other teams.
They likely aren't going to win the national championship this year, but they will be in the conversation for years to come, with or without Jameis.
The official stats for the game is incorrect. The ref made the call on #7. I replayed it on my DVR, so did Blake and he admitted it as well. The official stats are likely going off of the TV feed... as the official was getting somewhat drowned out by the crowd noise, and Herbstreit assumed it was Prosise and called it that way. But if you listen, the ref clearly called it on Fuller. He says #7. So sad. But I agree that the penalty could've been called fairly on both players.
I'm a good guy, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt anywhere I could. Do you know how much it hurts me to respect Greg? I have to, he's earned it.
What have you done, anywhere, anytime?
Ya know, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this.
Make a post, an original post that people might give you shit for and you're cool.
We don't have to agree, just post an original thought, that's all. Then maybe I'll tell you about my dinner with John Elway Franco Harris, Tommy Lasorda and Martin Mull. At the 92 Super Bowl in Minny. Elway and Harris never got a word in, Laorda was great until Martin Mull had us all pissing our pants. That's where LT stuck me with the $150 bartab. I'm connected, you're a jealous wannabe, shut the fuck up, but I mean that nicely. Waiting for your response...
Notre Dame played great tonight... they went up a weight class and fought hard... but honestly, ND will be back to the lovable losers in no time.
Watch this replay and tell me what Fuller did wrong.
Cody Riggs got called for holding that cost ND 4 points, the right call but conveniently Jalen Ramsey was not called for the same thing when he held Prosise right at the snap.
FSU blew the coverage because they had 2 guys playing man and one playing zone, and then bitched their way into a flag.
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Notre Dame played great tonight... they went up a weight class and fought hard... but honestly, ND will be back to the lovable losers in no time.
Go fuck yourself. You don't have the slighest fucking clue about ND. How about FSU in a dog fight against a worthless NC State squad? Based on that I'll say FSU loses 2 more games, funny how that works
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Calling it on Fuller was a blown call, watch the replay and then tell me I'm wrong about it. Fuller did nothing wrong. Prosise did.
FSU just squeaked by Oklahoma State, who is every bit as worthless as Stanford, so based on that FSU will definitely lose a couple more games.
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Mystique? Doesn't mean shit.
Mystique? Doesn't mean shit.
Why shouldn't I have this level of confidence in ND? There are two remaining games on their schedule that they could lose. AZ State and USC. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they lost one or even both. They will absolutely not lose 3 games from here on out, like you suggested. Golson has lost exactly two games as a starter, and now he's going to lose 3 in the matter of a month when he only has two tough games?
Got me there moookman
Continue to argue with Jim, who actually believes that Winston didn't have his way with that girl.
I understand though, done the same thing myself too many times.
Can't help you though, not that you would need it, lol, I got to get to bed.
Something about some team called Dallas or something...
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
FSU won by 4 points and 2 yards. ND outgained FSU by 100+ yards. The idea that FSU has so much more talent top to bottom is bullshit, it certainly didn't show up on the field at any point in the game. Both teams have top flight QB's. FSU may have more names, but these ND guys are going to become household names real quick, and they are insanely young.
And bullshit on Bama beating FSU by 20. The same Bama who played a mediocre at best Arkansas squad and won by a point. A&M has mailed in their season, they checked out after the Miss State game. Bama isnt anywhere near as good as the score showed today. I'd take FSU on a neutral field over Bama mostly because they have by far the best player on the field and he just so happens to play QB. When you have a top QB, you have a great shot to beat anyone
Not to take anything away from ND. But they were not the better team tonight. The gave a good punch, but FSU simply has better talent top to bottom.
And FSU is not as good as they were last year. The loss of Kelvin Benjamin stung, and so does some of the offensive linemen like C Brian Stork. Defensively, they have some players but are young, and they have really been beat up by injuries this year.
I don't think FSU will repeat... they have a puncher's chance. ND is not ready for prime time. If FSU had to play Alabama right now they'd lose by at least 20. So we'll just have to see what happens. But don't hold your breath for a ND title anytime. The appearance they made a couple years ago was a joke. A bookies nightmare. You probably only made 10 cents to the dollar on the money line for that game.
The 4th and 18 play was not "chucked up" Robinson was wide open, and Golson moved in the pocket and made a terrific throw with a guy about to pop him. You're acting like he threw up a hail mary and it got tipped up in the air or someone caught the ball off of his helmet.
ND is ready for prime time. And they will be next year, too. People keep wanting to down play this team because of what they thought of them going into the season. There is talent and speed everywhere on this team. A lot of that talent right now is freshman and sophomores getting very valuable experience. They will be pre-season top 5 easily next year and they will have earned that ranking. No team is going to bring back as many starters as they will next year.
I'm a good guy, I'd give you the benefit of the doubt anywhere I could. Do you know how much it hurts me to respect Greg? I have to, he's earned it.
What have you done, anywhere, anytime?
Ya know, fuck it, I'm not gonna do this.
Make a post, an original post that people might give you shit for and you're cool.
We don't have to agree, just post an original thought, that's all. Then maybe I'll tell you about my dinner with John Elway Franco Harris, Tommy Lasorda and Martin Mull. At the 92 Super Bowl in Minny. Elway and Harris never got a word in, Laorda was great until Martin Mull had us all pissing our pants. That's where LT stuck me with the $150 bartab. I'm connected, you're a jealous wannabe, shut the fuck up, but I mean that nicely. Waiting for your response...
No your not Rocky..You are an insecure loser who has the maturity level of a 13 year old..The mere fact that you keep trying to equate value and substance to a fucking internet message board speaks volumes of how lame you really are.
You sat here in this thread and tried multiple times to rally support to yourself with other posters and failed miserably. You don't like getting bitched slap then don't start shit, but especially don't continue to humiliate yourself by begging for help and being left stranded....Stop being a little pussy and man the hell up and handle it yourself. But when you can't handle it, don't start it if you don't want to be made the fool again.
Your opinion on what constitutes "Football knowledge" is laughable given the resume of threads you start on the subject. You literally get punk'ed on every football thread you initiate due to the asinine logic and complete lack of understanding of the game you illustrate. I mean seriously you are the laughing stock of this board at this point.
But what really made my night is knowing that I am completely in your head AFTER you tried to start shit...Now go run to the mods with that Nancy..
Oregon lost to Arizona at home. TCU lost to Baylor, who have played exactly two difficult games so far. One a last second win over TCU, and one a two touchdown loss at WVU.
Anyone who puts TCU over ND at this point needs their head examined
Would have made it first and goal from the 9 yard line. Fuck I have to go to bed, this one is tough to swallow. If it's a rule, just like the pick play, then fucking call it regardless of the situation. No gray area in that one or not, he took off his helmet on the field as soon as Robinson crossed the goal line, and it wasn't called.
Fuck. Go Irish
The defenders fucked up the coverage, too. The guy who was supposed to get Robinson ran with Fuller. He was going to be wide open with or without the pick, I know refs don't know that, but it's just a kick in the nuts. I still think it should have been offsetting penalties as Prosise got held, too.
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20 is blocking downfield well before the ball is released. It was the perfect example of a rub, pick, whatever. And honestly it didn't need to be so obvious. Robinson had such a great outside release and the throw was on the money. FSU got lucky bringing the heat. Horrible defensive call and extremely lucky to get nailed out by a penalty.
The defenders fucked up the coverage, too. The guy who was supposed to get Robinson ran with Fuller. He was going to be wide open with or without the pick, I know refs don't know that, but it's just a kick in the nuts. I still think it should have been offsetting penalties as Prosise got held, too.
Its a tough call Mook. Especially in that situation. But 20 clearly interfered with 8s ability to cover 88. It was a pick. No doubt. Was there confusion by the FSU defensive backfield? Yeah. No question. They got extremely lucky. But it was the right call IMO.
Not one referee saw him take off his helmet?
Ramsey clearly holding Prosise
Ramsey clearly holding Prosise
Or fighting to get outside as he is allowed to do since Prosise came off the line blocking...