Or close to it. Offense was pretty bad too. The O-line looking pretty weak again. I think Walton is far and away the weakest link. Play calling suspect too with the very unsuccessful run heavy focus. really surprising that Mac didn't take a few more chances. Play calling not very imaginative today.
Prince. Prince isn't even playing poorly. He had good coverage there again. Dez is a beast.
But Prince does zip at the LOS vs Bryant. Can't even get a hand on him to redirect him a bit. Prince is not a #1 CB IMO.
His majesty wouldnt move WR
His majesty would get throw by Dez if he tried to jam Dez. And if he falls or stumbles you have him running free. No thanks.
I don't even want to think of what would happen if Prince kept trying to jam Dez. He played as well as he can play. Dez is just that good. Meanwhile our fucking offense does stupid shit.
Eli must be shaking his head like you surrounded me with his group.
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
RE: RE: RE: John Mara isn't why this team has this level of bad fundamentals
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Was coach I think he would be doing more
of last scoring drive....looked like KG
today.... Tc playbook is not good..
forcing run...I think we could run if
they used some differant plays...
also eli was at center every run...
thet knew....cant wait to hear tc
unitl it was 28-14 to start throwing more on 1st down? We told everyone we would run it no matter what and that is exactly what we did. Running on 1st down was not working, yet we continued to do it and put ourselves in 2nd and 3rd and long.
Reese and staff are not getting the football players needed to succeed. The coaching could be a lot better but the talent is more the issue. I know Reese will not get fired by the Giants but I wonder how many bad seasons will it take for the organization decide to rebuild from scratch?
They weren't great, but they were put in bad spots by the offense. We don't have a dominant D, so scoring points and preventing turnovers is the recipe for winning. The O was out of sync and made costly penalties all game. Besides that second to last drive, they were worst.
They needed this talentless piece of shit team to turn the ball over twice to secure their win at home, despite being down a few key guys. I'm less impressed with Dallas than I was coming in, especially knowing the Seahawks lost to the Rams.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Talk about being a homer. You seriously think sommeone starting a new team who could take any 53 players in the League he wanted would take
A Manning not named Peyton as QB?
And Richburg on OL?
And Beckham? as one of the top 3 WR in all of football?
Cmon ... stop being funny. The Giants don't have a single solitary player who is the best at his position. They don't have a single solitary player who is top 5 at his position.
We don't have any #1 at the position players on the roster, so we're talentless.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
You're good at throwing around insults. Nothing much else though. The GIANTS don't have top 5 at any position. They maybe have 5 players who could start on any other team.
If you think this team has talent, well, like I said, you're good at throwing around insults, but not much other from an intelligence standpoint.
You're not worthy of actual discussion because you start with crazy
and go downhill from there. And that's not an insult - you LITERALLY posted that I'm wasting my time watching a Mara controlled team, and that future generations will give up in disgrace and become Eagles fans for lack of success.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
RE: You're not worthy of actual discussion because you start with crazy
and go downhill from there. And that's not an insult - you LITERALLY posted that I'm wasting my time watching a Mara controlled team, and that future generations will give up in disgrace and become Eagles fans for lack of success.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
There are many of us who watched a Mara controlled team well before you were born. We didn't waste our time. We had hope. But - and it is a big but - there wasn't success because of the Maras. It wasn't until the League stepped in and forced the Maras to accept George Young - and here is the kicker - to accept him without interference from them - it wasn't until that happened that the Giants that YOU got to watch finally occurred. Because - when you let the professionals do their jobs - you get talent on the field.
The Giants have SHIT for talent. Clearly the lower 1/3rd in the league talent wise. And it's no coincidence that the drop in talent takes place after old man Mara dies and the kid starts more and more sticking his fucking nose where it doesn't belong. IMO that is the biggest reason for the horrible drafts and the reason why this team has dropped off a cliff talent wise.
Talent on the Giants:
Manning
Beckham
Hankins
Cromartie
Amukamara
Maybe... Richburg, Pugh
That's it. Pretty much the entire rest of the current squad are replacement pieces.
How is this team if Nicks does not fuck up his leg and Wilson does not break his neck and Phillips does not rip up his knee and S. Smith is still healthy and Jones plays 1 down.
This team has lost top flight talent to injury. That top flight talent has to be brought back through the top end of the draft. It has a trickle down effect. Plus they lost a top level G at the age of 30 - almost unheard of in the NFL
They are playing their 3rd RB
Who is all this defensive talent Dallas has.
They have 3 1st rd picks on the OL, Witten was a 3rd Rd pick, Dez was a first and Murray a 3rd. We have seen Dallas play w/o Dez and W/O Murray - they do not win
"Regroup, recover, rejuvenate." Anyone who thought the Giants might show some sign of this today were misled or delusional. The changes required to achieve this, top to bottom, are massive. No one associated with this mess, on or off the field, can escape responsibility for it. Time for a culture change, I'm afraid, not just personnel changes.
Larry Donnell...6 foot 4 of being a BITCH !!
We might be 3-8 by then.
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Prince. Prince isn't even playing poorly. He had good coverage there again. Dez is a beast.
But Prince does zip at the LOS vs Bryant. Can't even get a hand on him to redirect him a bit. Prince is not a #1 CB IMO.
His majesty wouldnt move WR
His majesty would get throw by Dez if he tried to jam Dez. And if he falls or stumbles you have him running free. No thanks.
I don't even want to think of what would happen if Prince kept trying to jam Dez. He played as well as he can play. Dez is just that good. Meanwhile our fucking offense does stupid shit.
Eli must be shaking his head like you surrounded me with his group.
Larry Donnell...6 foot 4 of being a BITCH !!
Go away Dalls asshole please. What a fucking loser.
that made me laugh in my misery
Is it only about Eli for you? He gave it his all today, and he isn't worried about throwing a pick even when chances of winning are 1000 to 1.
Who is responsible for that? Is it the players we sign or is it a reflection of the coaching staff?
Props to Eli for hanging in there and playing well while the team crumbles around him.
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
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Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
of last scoring drive....looked like KG
today.... Tc playbook is not good..
forcing run...I think we could run if
they used some differant plays...
also eli was at center every run...
thet knew....cant wait to hear tc
Who and how many key injuries we suffer this week?
They needed this talentless piece of shit team to turn the ball over twice to secure their win at home, despite being down a few key guys. I'm less impressed with Dallas than I was coming in, especially knowing the Seahawks lost to the Rams.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Talk about being a homer. You seriously think sommeone starting a new team who could take any 53 players in the League he wanted would take
A Manning not named Peyton as QB?
And Richburg on OL?
And Beckham? as one of the top 3 WR in all of football?
Cmon ... stop being funny. The Giants don't have a single solitary player who is the best at his position. They don't have a single solitary player who is top 5 at his position.
He also hedged his bet by selling part of the team to Tish.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
You're good at throwing around insults. Nothing much else though. The GIANTS don't have top 5 at any position. They maybe have 5 players who could start on any other team.
If you think this team has talent, well, like I said, you're good at throwing around insults, but not much other from an intelligence standpoint.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
There are many of us who watched a Mara controlled team well before you were born. We didn't waste our time. We had hope. But - and it is a big but - there wasn't success because of the Maras. It wasn't until the League stepped in and forced the Maras to accept George Young - and here is the kicker - to accept him without interference from them - it wasn't until that happened that the Giants that YOU got to watch finally occurred. Because - when you let the professionals do their jobs - you get talent on the field.
The Giants have SHIT for talent. Clearly the lower 1/3rd in the league talent wise. And it's no coincidence that the drop in talent takes place after old man Mara dies and the kid starts more and more sticking his fucking nose where it doesn't belong. IMO that is the biggest reason for the horrible drafts and the reason why this team has dropped off a cliff talent wise.
Talent on the Giants:
Manning
Beckham
Hankins
Cromartie
Amukamara
Maybe... Richburg, Pugh
That's it. Pretty much the entire rest of the current squad are replacement pieces.
This team has lost top flight talent to injury. That top flight talent has to be brought back through the top end of the draft. It has a trickle down effect. Plus they lost a top level G at the age of 30 - almost unheard of in the NFL
They are playing their 3rd RB
Who is all this defensive talent Dallas has.
They have 3 1st rd picks on the OL, Witten was a 3rd Rd pick, Dez was a first and Murray a 3rd. We have seen Dallas play w/o Dez and W/O Murray - they do not win
This team has talent, it needs health