very tough to get excited about this team, but I'd love to be surprised ... not likely to happen, but then again, that's what surprises are, right? <sigh>
I thought they'd be baseline competitive and watchable for the rest of the season.
Now... it's right back to the sense of hopelessness going into the Detroit game. I want to be stunned and for them to come out big in this, but I just don't see how. They don't have the horses or the genius to mask it.
Did Dallas double the size of their cheerleading squad? And why would you cut to commercial when they been on for over 10 seconds with everyone's jaw wide open.
is going to have to win this game, and do it with rookie Beckham, Randle, Parker, and Ogletree. At TE he has Donnell, Fells, and mystery man Robinson. And no speed back.
he is completely and utterly worthless. our defense is not scary and hasnt been in quite some time.
bunch of bend dont break pussies who eventually break due to some busted coverage or we drop a 500lb guy into coverage or our blitz consists of a bunch of guys running into a fucking wall.
On game threads just to see if someone complained about biased officiating whenever they say we might have benefitted from a bad call, and the game bread never lets me down.
shit. Unreal. Well, at least now we know what they are going to do. Maybe Beatty did us a favor. We'd probably just slam it into the line and get stopped anyway.
There are far too many players who are far too comfortable. Since we gutted the roster last season to get rid of the bad apples you can only assume it's the coaching at this point. Maybe the hunger is gone or the message is stale, but this isn't a well coached side.
On offense, defense, and special teams. I know the coaches don't play but damn, it seems we have been making the same mistakes regardless of personnel for a while now.
fucking us. These announcers are brutal. Reese better fix this shit during next off season.
They started..but not enough so..yet..a few offseason to get it all together. feeling out process
Well they better hurry up. The coaches have 2 years left on their deal as well as Eli . I want to see a sense of urgency. How many years does Eli have in his prime and he is stuck behind this OL.
Seems a poor fit for the scheme. Maybe as a change of pace back but he's not well equipped to be leading the rushing attack he removes too much of the playbook.
Though to be fair on him he did have a decent blitz pick up a play or so back.
is a very good RB. But the run blocking is very poor. Some of this is that we are weak at WR and TE, so teams are going to gang up to stop the run. Williams is also not a speed back. He needs a hole at the LOS. He does his best work hitting defenders after the LOS.
Let's get a turnover defense. That Dallas crowd seems louder than usual. I thought they gave their tickets to opposing fans. Didn't the miners fans own that stadium?
Jenkins hurts, but Beason was never right, and probably won't be for the rest of the season. He's just had so many injuries. Not sure about DRC, but the Cowboys will surely pick on him. I'd like to see Berhe.
by Aikman. First he makes a question out of the INT, which was nothing to call - then he makes it sound like Eli missed on the pass that Fells takes in.
I'm loving this right now!
RE: We obviously fixed whatever was the issue last week
Hahah yeah I am surprised he didn't say something like, Manning with his eyes closed throws an awkward pass to Fells. Aikman sounded pained in giving props to us.
by Aikman. First he makes a question out of the INT, which was nothing to call - then he makes it sound like Eli missed on the pass that Fells takes in.
I'm loving this right now!
ALso lobbied for an uncatchable ball on the obvious PI the previous series ...
He is such a blantant idiotic homer ,,, an EMBARASSMENT like you say only deserving capital letters ...
Got some very good football players. Some. Enough of them? Could be, especially if the others -- are you listening to me, Randle? -- pull their socks up.
Our defense absolutely atrocious!!!!! Fewell needs to get his head out of his ass and get more pressure on Romo. He had all freakin day. Our DBs can't cover that long.
is just fucking killer. If you can force them to punt, even if you dont scre to end the half, you are up 7 with getting the ball, and all the momentum.
Instead, we go back to shit that never works and yet justify it after the game.
this is a closer game than i had thought ...cant give them stupid garbage like that. Iam just so grateful that we scored. I thanked every neighbor I saw. We have to be grateful as Giants fans because we actually scored points. BTW, Aikman is really gay for the Cowboys
Williams getting nothing all day
he is the type of back that needs to be fed the ball and he gets better
he FINALLY gets a big run and what do Giants do??
bring in hillis
They are awful. Can't stop the run or rush the passer. Why can't Moore get on the field? He can't do any worse then the guys who are playing.
Actually, my complaint is they're not finishing plays. They ALMOST get Romo. then he completes a pass. They ALMOST stop Murray for a loss, then he runs for a first down. Close doesn't cut it. They gotta finish their plays.
If the Giants can't win this game, I really hope that they lose out and can replace that fat lazy slob (will beatty) with a man's left tackle. Will SUCKS.
Last year, it was the offense that was broken, now it is the defense?
Defense has been broken since SB 46. Last year the inepitutde of the offense overshadowed how bad the defense was. Remember we won 6 games against backup QBs?
Well thats why the defense looked beter than it was.
Convert this 3rd down and don't give them the ball back
what in the fuck...I say...what in the fuck was that? Way to go geniuses....All i give a fuck about is ELi Manning's stats if the Giants don't win. Let's let him have crisp stats. I really think Coughlin has coached some stupid game sin his post 2011 career with the Giants. Happy Birthday Wuphat.
Hey, when is the World Series gonna start? I thought both the Championship series ended 4 weeks ago! They should be starting game one of the world series in the second week of december, no?
Dallas isn't that good, and we are underrated. Lets score to open the half and never look back.
I wouldn't go as far as saying the Cowboys are not any good. Giants need to stop with these breakdowns and become consistent. Afraid a TO will swing this game to one running away from this game.
There is so much to say right now but yesterday was a day i've been waiting for since 2009. To say it is finally over is satisfying and to be with my family and the ones who care about me most is the greatest feeling in the world. I've been through a great ordeal and have crossed paths with some awesome people and some who just don't know right from wrong but in the end it has made me a stronger person mentally and physically. I'm ready for anything and nobody can kill my vibe. I lost friends and made friends, i'm not ashamed of the way things played out it was a blessing in disguise so i just want to thank god for giving me this great life i live and hope to provide others with knowledge on things that people don't witness every day. Motivation is the key to success! The kid is back caution to the wind i am here to stay.
and this is my first time ever on this site. Football is my life. i love Peyton Manning. It's great to be surrounded by real Giant fans just like me. BIG BLUE FOR LIFE! I was inspired by gidiefor to sign up for this site. Thank you, mam. It's great to see female Giant fans love the Giants as much as I do. you single?
But it is a classic "badly coached team" mistake
But yes, no same as bad clock management and 12 men on the field which are pretty much indefensible
That said -- I love TC but hate those simple and avoidable mistakes
And cover the freakin TE. Have we covered any TE this year? Isn't Witten like 200 years old? How is it that he keeps beating jams and getting open? I could make that completion against this D.
Offense needs to run better and give Eli more time. This one could come down to 4th Quarter final 2 minutes. Dallas has had our number in those situations recently. Can we flip the tables ?
was probably hoping for a defensive penalty on the last play that would give him a shot at a Hail Mary from midfield. But that is unlikely, or at least less likely than somebody getting hurt. Take a knee and go to half.
This game is winnable, but we have to stop making mistakes, and must get to Romo. He's reading the complete works of Shakespeare on some of those plays.
Here is to hoping we are not miserable for 14 days in about an hour+
Coughlin needs to fire Fewell on the spot the next time he employs this defense. I'm not even sure why he keeps going to it on 3rd and longs, but every time he does, it's a disaster. Every. Single. Time. I see it. You see it. How the HELL do the Giants not see it?
No more "She was asking for it" "She was flirting with him"
I feel like I'm getting this vibe that I'm being blamed for something that I never did. Leave me the fuck alone. I used to get beat up by my ex-wife all the time and I'm like 6 foot 4 335. Nobody cared about me :( Guerrilla Joe :-(
really can't understand why at this point. I'm sure it's because he doesn't play the run as well, but once you get past JPP it's not as if there's much better available on the roster.
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No more "She was asking for it" "She was flirting with him"
I feel like I'm getting this vibe that I'm being blamed for something that I never did. Leave me the fuck alone. I used to get beat up by my ex-wife all the time and I'm like 6 foot 4 335. Nobody cared about me :( Guerrilla Joe :-(
They have doubled our TOP 19:46 to 10:14. Our defense could be hurting in the 4th quarter if we do not turn this around now with this possession. TC is a big fan of this, look for an attempt at ball control offense now.
Cowboys are in the backfield on almost every running play. I'd use Hynoski, and go to a double TE set more often. TC is trying to force the run, when it isn't there.
that Dallas is not charged a timeout and is not hit with a 15 yard penalty. He knows the fucking rules and it was clearly announced that his forward progress was stopped. I know thats not the rule but it absolutely should be
Just horrible execution! Pitiful, undisciplined play! Beating ourselves once again. I've never seen a team that has to beat two teams every freakin weekend!
The offensive game plan is poor. One reverse to OBJ and that's it. Slamming a smash mouth runner into the line is the rest of our running game. No carries for Cox. No deep passes. Nothing really to the TEs. Short passes on first down could be like long handoffs, and would take some of the pressure off the OL.
I don't think you can blame the ineptness on that. Poor playcalling getting us behind in down and distance, constant false starts and then a shit throw.
We're far too inconsistent a side. The only thing which is consistent is poor 3rd down play and sloppy play.
The offensive game plan is poor. One reverse to OBJ and that's it. Slamming a smash mouth runner into the line is the rest of our running game. No carries for Cox. No deep passes. Nothing really to the TEs. Short passes on first down could be like long handoffs, and would take some of the pressure off the OL.
The amount of the short passing game which has went out the window when Jennings got hurt is shocking.
As someone said, except for Beckham, we have no speed, either at WR, TE, LB, or safety. It's a problem on both sides of the ball. I'd like to see them flex out Robinson in the slot.
Jeez. Romo with ALL DAY. And the missed tackles galore. Insane.
This isn't a defense worth my fucking ball sack. How many times is this Fewell guy going to escape criticism? What's the game plan here? Fucking sucks. So sick of this guys soft defenses.
It's a rather terrible one. Plagued by penalties and stupid play calling and decisions. Giants should be winning 35-14. This thread and game is a mess!
No pressure on Romo is what did that. Blitz, and play every DB you have on every second and third and long. Letting him sit back there is suicide. Take a chance. You're going to lose anyway if you don't.
@JordanRaanan: Jon Beason and Cullen Jenkins both officially out. #giants
I would not be surprised if today is the last we see of Beason in a Giants uniform. He has a big cap number next year and they can save about 3.5 million on the cap by cutting him. You can't rely on him to ever stay on the field and even when he's on the field he's just OK
Way to go losers. If they don't win this game, say goodnight....upcoming is Indy, Seattle, Sf, Dallas AGAIN...hey douchebags...can you cover a tight end???
Is criminal. We deal our guys getting hit with borderline calls like Beatty last week and our D lineman are getting mugged it is uncalled. About done with the NFL
Hill's release, Thurmond's injury + Brown's injury/lack of recovery has left us astonishingly weak at corner andsafety. With DRC's injury, we can't scheme around it. We have to get to the quarterback, and we're not, so we look like dogshit.
SUCK (including Beason, I think he's the biggest loser of them all)
PS: Can the Simpsons come up with something original anymore. I stopped watching that stupid ass show 20 years ago and they're still running the TREE-HOUSE OF HORROR deed into the ground???? Treehouse of horror 25??? Wow that show sucks
I disagree with you. i know that we lack talent but when you have your opponent on its own 12 and you only rush 3 men and you have a practice squad player playing man on one of the best receiver in football,its coaching.
We throw incompletions on third. Wish they'd get way ahead so we don't have to go through this agony. When we had the ball we wouldn't throw the ball down the field.running into the line on every play.
because there are so many balls kicked through the back of the endzone son kicks that when one is actually kicked into the endzone, even despite being 260 yards deep into the endzone, players are willing to take a risk of running it out and thinking that netting -6 yards is worth it. Eh, players aren't that smart. no surprise.
Offensive Holding: A penalty called when an offense player grabs onto a defensive player in order to impede his progress or gain an advantage. Holding is called when the player does not use a proper open-handed blocking technique. The 10-yard penalty is assessed from the previous line of scrimmage, and the down is replayed.
Do you see loads of talent on this roster? I don't.
How could you tell though? Even guys with talent have looked like shit. I don't necessarily disagree, but it's very hard to point a finger at coaching vs. talent when even guys with an established track record are playing at a low level.
When its zone they beat it. We don't get a pass rush and our blitzes suck. They either sent get home or if they do our guys religiously miss 1 on 1 tackling with the QB. Its a factor of everything.
Don't criticize Cox !!! Even though there were like 10-15 comments calling out Cox (as they should) for that dumb ass decision. and hooray! he made ONE play for Special teams since 2009!
today. We were gutted from within. The lousy Reese drafts have done us in. Now all these injured FA pick ups are doing their thing. Tap out and draw pay.
Anyone else notice how he always kills the players but he never calls out the coaches? Doea Banks really not notice how bad our defense has been under Fewell?
Bullshit
Look at what other teams do with a lot less talent
Fewell gets schooled every game five years still confusion is Horrible
A lot less talent? A Lot? Seriously? You're fucking kidding, right?
Where do I go to look? Exactly what other teams do so much better with LESS talent than the Giants D? And who are the players on the Giants D you consider to qualify as "talent"?
but they'd probably let Tyron Smith commit murder and not throw a flag. On the last TD throw he was practically mugging JPP and nothing. Would be nice to get some consistency from the refs.
the run game isn't working. Stop trying to establish it. Just stop. It's not working. Use the pass to help the run cause the pass is working you. Stop being so motherfucking stubborn for christs sake.
Is killing them,along with running on first and 2nd down all the time. Giving romo, the homo, to much fing. Time to throw. Can't stop Murray. They are playing a Terrible 2nd half.
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more waiver wire garbage.
Did you say that last return you fucking asswipe?
go fuck yourself. 1 good return to the 29 yard line? put him in Canton jack ass.
It was to the 35 you fucking whiner. Why watch the team if you are just going to sound like a cunt every fucking week?
35. definitely put him in Canton then. your act is so fucking old already, honestly go call someone else out. if you think Michael Cox is NOT waiver wire fodder, I guess i'm glad youre not our GM.
this team has so many issues and if you'd like to wear blinders as they bumble their way through mistakes on every goddamn drive, then enjoy.
believe me, you're the one that sounds like a fucking cunt internet tough guy.
Honestly, I can't tell about the coaching or the scheme. The O-line can't run block, the D-line can't get to Romo. I don't think that's scheme; I think it's talent and execution. I doubt better coaching would have solved that.
Let's face it. I'm just glad we actually scored. If they lose this game, there is no hope, I hope that they lose every single game and Coughlin "retires"....then watch somehow that we have a coach that has less penalties. Eli manning was never the problem of this team. Calm down. Glad we scored some points. We just had one good quarter in the last 7....calm down...we're not that good.
Bull fucking shit. Their D has zero talent but they have been coached up by Marinelli to play good football. We got a bag of dicks who smiles after touchdowns are scored on his D
I think I've seen enough of his "west coast" offense. His playcalling sucks. This team needs to be rebuilt from the top down.
Next NFL network show,Finding Giant Scouts.
Seasons have "themes." This one for the Giants looks like they can beat the bad teams (Texans, Redskins, Falcons), but not the good teams (Eagles, Dallas). Arizona is somewhere in between.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
How is he wrong? This team is awful. The coaching is awful, the QB has no idea when to snap the ball to avoid a challenge. You tell me all about our exciting level of talent...
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Let's face it. I'm just glad we actually scored. If they lose this game, there is no hope, I hope that they lose every single game and Coughlin "retires"....then watch somehow that we have a coach that has less penalties. Eli manning was never the problem of this team. Calm down. Glad we scored some points. We just had one good quarter in the last 7....calm down...we're not that good.
what a fan...lets hope they lose every game...jeez...
While he's called a shit game, at the moment they're just outmatched. They're stacking up against the run but still can't stop it and they're on guys from the practice squad in the defensive backfield who can't hold up one on one.
Ultimately the offense hasn't kept up with Dallas, and most of that is on the Giants themselves rather than anything Dallas have done. Our coaching staff is fucking archaic so much so when we get a hot new OC he immediately gets a hard on for a run game we can't execute.
At this point the whole Coaching staff needs cleared out.
Honestly, I can't tell about the coaching or the scheme. The O-line can't run block, the D-line can't get to Romo. I don't think that's scheme; I think it's talent and execution. I doubt better coaching would have solved that.
Bullshit. The commitment to the running game is beyond comical. Putting ourselves in third and long for no reason. Use the pass to setup the run for a change...especially when we're averaging 2 ypc.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
They don't have injuries either? Doug Free, Sean Lee? There is a talent disparity that is pretty large and anyone wathching can see it.
Those two are the best you could do? Have you seen who we're putting out there at CB? Or the fact that John Jerry is still starting on the OL? Or that we lost Victor Cruz last week, and we're still out Jennings?
Or more importantly - do you watch this fucking team at all, or are you just here to whine?
What happened to the fast pace offense we were going to run we re back to hiking it with 2 seconds on the clock and letting the defense dictate the action.
about Cox, who was our 5th string RB coming into this year?
exactly. all i said was that it was a poor decision to take the kick out and that yes he is in fact waiver wire fodder. i'd call being a FIFTH string RB just that.
but if you mention even an iota of negativity, you're a bad fan or whining.
just want to fucking fire someone. I'd really like to hear the justification after the game for all this mindless, pointless, running. Something like, "we needed to establish the run." Well, you didn't coach. Stubbornness and obstinacy are not virtues.
The one constant is Coughlin. Fire him and Fewell...promote McAdoo.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
The injuries to Jennings and Cruz have pretty much crippled
the offense. Williams is good, but he's too one dimensional. Beckham by himself is easy to contain because Randle and Parker aren't going to beat anyone.
The one constant is Coughlin. Fire him and Fewell...promote McAdoo.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
What happened to the fast pace offense we were going to run we re back to hiking it with 2 seconds on the clock and letting the defense dictate the action.
now a fumble, because Donnell is desperate for a rare first down, so we don't have to punt from deep in our own end. But it all starts with that ridiculous running.
I agree with whoever said that TC won't let McAdoo give up on the run. No quick slants. No trying to threaten the middle of the field.
The one constant is Coughlin. Fire him and Fewell...promote McAdoo.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
it's not like this team was gonna do anything relevant under Coughlin's old ass. I'd say fire him but he'll just "retire"...bring in someone else to suck for this team. He's like 89 and has way too many penalties for having the reputation of being a "hard ass"
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
He has added virtually nothing to this team. There has to be more talent then it shows on this team. The only way to find out is to change the coaching staff.
RE: RE: John Mara isn't why this team has this level of bad fundamentals
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
At some point you have to realize the D isn't great and that people second-guessing the calls are only doing it out of frustration.
Come on. Lets not act like this defense has zero talent. Putting Fenner on Dez, putting Jenkins in pass coverage, going zone on 3rd and long, rushing 3 guys..... those are all HIS designs. They dont work.
And if they dont work..... find someone else. Because outside of 6 games in 2011..... our defense has sucked ass when it matters the most. Eli/TC can get an extension for 2007/2011..... we cant give Perry anymore.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
by a loser team. They'll continue to reap the benefits of failing miserably by collecting million dollar pay checks. I wish I could suck this much ass at my job and get paid 100X the amount. Does anyone have any connections to this team on here? If so, insult them for being pathetic excuse of a team and ridicule them every step of the way for their play which is equivalent to a 20 year old girl.
He has added virtually nothing to this team. There has to be more talent then it shows on this team. The only way to find out is to change the coaching staff.
LOL, did the Super Bowl win in Feb '12 not happen? Fact is our OL and guys like Tuck/Osi got old quickly, our best WR turned into a headcase, and we've had a bunch of key injuries.
His offense....macadoo is a puppet. ..
with this d you can slow team down
so long and hope for turnovers. ..
but offense needs to score....
so tc runs ball and wears out clock...
with little gain...while passing was doing good..
oline coaching and others is on tc....
doesnt want a threat to take his job....
Really the only thing to do is fire McAdoo before the end of the game. Period.
This isn't about McAdoo.
The obsession with the run comes directly from Coughlin, who is even more scarred and obsessed with it after the disaster last year.
Agreed. This has nothing to do with McAdoo
Don't people remember COughlin made McAdoo sit down with him and Tom selected every play he approved out of his binder? I think that was what Collinsworth said on the sunday night game.
even their shit defense is probably better, they're certainly better coached despite a lack of identifiable talent.
The coaching on this team is the major issue. Good coaching can mask talent deficiencies, no NFL team is complete.
it can mask them for a few games. You are asking them to mask it for a season. We need speed on both sides of the ball. The last two weeks we've played teams that have a gear we just don't have.
We don't have Murray or a Bryant on offense and once again, our lb's and safeties are slow.
play calling, bad OL, are the problem. Worst long term problem is the chronic lack of team speed, especially on defense. We've had slow LBs and safeties for years, and Reese has done nothing about it.
Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
ummm, do you seriously believe John Mara had nothing to do with hiring Fewell? Seriously? I mean, duh! He's involved in the draft, free agency but you think he's not involved when he forces a coaching change in the hiring of the replacement? Email me. I have some stuff I want to sell you.
should share a lot of the blame but Reese is the real problem here. His overvaluing of skill position players and undervaluing line play is what's hurt this team. For Example, we shouldn't be in a position where we lose a breakout DT every few years and have to hope someone else emerges.
RE: RE: RE: RE: John Mara isn't why this team has this level of bad fundamentals
Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
ummm, do you seriously believe John Mara had nothing to do with hiring Fewell? Seriously? I mean, duh! He's involved in the draft, free agency but you think he's not involved when he forces a coaching change in the hiring of the replacement? Email me. I have some stuff I want to sell you.
Nothing to do? No, he owns the team I'm sure he was consulted.
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
Seems like every year we lose a ton of guys. Shit I know people say injuries are a part of football and every team deals with it, but to this level? We came into today without our best RB, WR, OG, MLB, CB, nickel CB and back up nickel CB.
you know what's funny? For all the people that complain abotu my posts, I've only run across 3-4 people who actually tried to deconstruct any of the arguments i've made. On the whole, all of you have utterly failed.
should share a lot of the blame but Reese is the real problem here. His overvaluing of skill position players and undervaluing line play is what's hurt this team. For Example, we shouldn't be in a position where we lose a breakout DT every few years and have to hope someone else emerges.
It's interesting that you pick DT where we have a suitable replacement for Linval Joseph in Hankins. Blame Reese if you want, but not being able to resign guys who cash in for big bucks in FA is not something he deserves blame for.
Declaring the season over at 3-4, if we lose, is fucking moronic.
it's one thing if 3-4 was just a few bad plays and some dumb luck.. if the Giants were winning any individual battle or had some talent shinning it would be different but 3-4 with nowhere to go but down, no hope of a new direction and no new talent waiting on the sidelines to burst out.. you have a 1-2 record in the division... yeah, it looks bleak.
but it is bittersweet to see how quickly Eli could move it down the field there when we just put it into his hands and stopped stubbornly pounding the run for one yard
Declaring the season over at 3-4, if we lose, is fucking moronic.
it's one thing if 3-4 was just a few bad plays and some dumb luck.. if the Giants were winning any individual battle or had some talent shinning it would be different but 3-4 with nowhere to go but down, no hope of a new direction and no new talent waiting on the sidelines to burst out.. you have a 1-2 record in the division... yeah, it looks bleak.
This team reeks of being a 500 team. I don't think anyone could argue otherwise.
but it is bittersweet to see how quickly Eli could move it down the field there when we just put it into his hands and stopped stubbornly pounding the run for one yard
0 confidence in our Defense to make a stop now. We need the ball now with time. Get the ball back tie it up and get it to OT. All you could hope for now. Can the stars align today?!
Macs offense. ...we have to be behind
2 tds before we do this?
Also.. if Ogeltree isnt playing
why ot Washington. ..should be
doing end zone passes. ..
Nothing to do? No, he owns the team I'm sure he was consulted.
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
Coughlin hired his initial coordinators. But the firings of coodinators has clearly been Mara - and Mara has neutered TC by forcing him to fire his coordinators. Like I said - TC should have been man enough to say "Fuck you" and walk away - but he let Mara cuckold him. So they're both to blame.
But, for me, it's Mara that is the problem ... because he isn't going anywhere and therefore this SHIT SHOW is going to continue until your great grandchildren finally give up and become Eagle fans.
Nothing to do? No, he owns the team I'm sure he was consulted.
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
Coughlin hired his initial coordinators. But the firings of coodinators has clearly been Mara - and Mara has neutered TC by forcing him to fire his coordinators. Like I said - TC should have been man enough to say "Fuck you" and walk away - but he let Mara cuckold him. So they're both to blame.
But, for me, it's Mara that is the problem ... because he isn't going anywhere and therefore this SHIT SHOW is going to continue until your great grandchildren finally give up and become Eagle fans.
Wow, that's a whole lot of stupid there.
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
has managed to hold the Cowboys offense to 28 points (at this point) at home, despite the fact that our O couldn't get out of it's own way for half the game and handed the ball to them inside the redzone once.
So say what you want about Fewell, but I don't think he's our problem. Might not be a great DC, but he's no worse than average.
No the offense has plenty of blame for this as well. Quinn gets a week off being the whipping boy, special teams kind of showed up.
We're not very good, but unfortunately we're not so inept that we'll tank the season. We're middling, we'll end up 7-9 or 6-10, maybe 8-8 at a push, get a mid round draft pick.
This team needs a talent infusion to go along with a coaching change.
ALWAYS decide that Giants week is the week that they remember to get their best players involved. It seems like a revolving theme. Des Bryant, Shady McCoy, Julio Jones, etc. teams force feed their studs when the Giants come to play.
What we shouldn't have done is committed a lot of money at useless positions like WR and CB and saved that money for DL and draft picks for OL.
Dunno - we don't have a lot of money committed to WR (aside for Cruz, who can't contribute because he's out) and if we had the CBs that we paid for on the field right now, we'd be looking at a different result.
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
Because there is now a Mara on the fucking staff. This team has zero talent. Zero. None. Nada. And if you think they do, I'd LOVE to hear your list of players that represent the future Super Bowl this team is going to win. MARA now controls this team. Not Reese and Not TC. He makes the draft decisions. He selects the free agents. And he decides what coordinators get fired and who their replacements are.
That's why YOU have already seen the last SB the Giants will win during your lifetime (I'm 62 so clearly it won't be during my lifetime).
it's the same idiot that says the same shit that got banned before under a diff name... the fact that Eric does not freeze registrations on game day has always stunned me.
There's no embarrassment with them being 6-1 other than that they're Dallas.
They're still weak defensively which will hopefully be their downfall but you could say that about the other NFC contenders (yes even Seattle who are hurting upfront and at LB)
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
Because there is now a Mara on the fucking staff. This team has zero talent. Zero. None. Nada. And if you think they do, I'd LOVE to hear your list of players that represent the future Super Bowl this team is going to win. MARA now controls this team. Not Reese and Not TC. He makes the draft decisions. He selects the free agents. And he decides what coordinators get fired and who their replacements are.
That's why YOU have already seen the last SB the Giants will win during your lifetime (I'm 62 so clearly it won't be during my lifetime).
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
safety help since we couldn't stop the run. Atleast be fair in your assessment. He played great in the first half when the game was close and played poorly in the 2nd when we started to lose the game.
Or close to it. Offense was pretty bad too. The O-line looking pretty weak again. I think Walton is far and away the weakest link. Play calling suspect too with the very unsuccessful run heavy focus. really surprising that Mac didn't take a few more chances. Play calling not very imaginative today.
Prince. Prince isn't even playing poorly. He had good coverage there again. Dez is a beast.
But Prince does zip at the LOS vs Bryant. Can't even get a hand on him to redirect him a bit. Prince is not a #1 CB IMO.
His majesty wouldnt move WR
His majesty would get throw by Dez if he tried to jam Dez. And if he falls or stumbles you have him running free. No thanks.
I don't even want to think of what would happen if Prince kept trying to jam Dez. He played as well as he can play. Dez is just that good. Meanwhile our fucking offense does stupid shit.
Eli must be shaking his head like you surrounded me with his group.
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
RE: RE: RE: John Mara isn't why this team has this level of bad fundamentals
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Was coach I think he would be doing more
of last scoring drive....looked like KG
today.... Tc playbook is not good..
forcing run...I think we could run if
they used some differant plays...
also eli was at center every run...
thet knew....cant wait to hear tc
unitl it was 28-14 to start throwing more on 1st down? We told everyone we would run it no matter what and that is exactly what we did. Running on 1st down was not working, yet we continued to do it and put ourselves in 2nd and 3rd and long.
Reese and staff are not getting the football players needed to succeed. The coaching could be a lot better but the talent is more the issue. I know Reese will not get fired by the Giants but I wonder how many bad seasons will it take for the organization decide to rebuild from scratch?
They weren't great, but they were put in bad spots by the offense. We don't have a dominant D, so scoring points and preventing turnovers is the recipe for winning. The O was out of sync and made costly penalties all game. Besides that second to last drive, they were worst.
They needed this talentless piece of shit team to turn the ball over twice to secure their win at home, despite being down a few key guys. I'm less impressed with Dallas than I was coming in, especially knowing the Seahawks lost to the Rams.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Talk about being a homer. You seriously think sommeone starting a new team who could take any 53 players in the League he wanted would take
A Manning not named Peyton as QB?
And Richburg on OL?
And Beckham? as one of the top 3 WR in all of football?
Cmon ... stop being funny. The Giants don't have a single solitary player who is the best at his position. They don't have a single solitary player who is top 5 at his position.
We don't have any #1 at the position players on the roster, so we're talentless.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
You're good at throwing around insults. Nothing much else though. The GIANTS don't have top 5 at any position. They maybe have 5 players who could start on any other team.
If you think this team has talent, well, like I said, you're good at throwing around insults, but not much other from an intelligence standpoint.
You're not worthy of actual discussion because you start with crazy
and go downhill from there. And that's not an insult - you LITERALLY posted that I'm wasting my time watching a Mara controlled team, and that future generations will give up in disgrace and become Eagles fans for lack of success.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
RE: You're not worthy of actual discussion because you start with crazy
and go downhill from there. And that's not an insult - you LITERALLY posted that I'm wasting my time watching a Mara controlled team, and that future generations will give up in disgrace and become Eagles fans for lack of success.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
There are many of us who watched a Mara controlled team well before you were born. We didn't waste our time. We had hope. But - and it is a big but - there wasn't success because of the Maras. It wasn't until the League stepped in and forced the Maras to accept George Young - and here is the kicker - to accept him without interference from them - it wasn't until that happened that the Giants that YOU got to watch finally occurred. Because - when you let the professionals do their jobs - you get talent on the field.
The Giants have SHIT for talent. Clearly the lower 1/3rd in the league talent wise. And it's no coincidence that the drop in talent takes place after old man Mara dies and the kid starts more and more sticking his fucking nose where it doesn't belong. IMO that is the biggest reason for the horrible drafts and the reason why this team has dropped off a cliff talent wise.
Talent on the Giants:
Manning
Beckham
Hankins
Cromartie
Amukamara
Maybe... Richburg, Pugh
That's it. Pretty much the entire rest of the current squad are replacement pieces.
How is this team if Nicks does not fuck up his leg and Wilson does not break his neck and Phillips does not rip up his knee and S. Smith is still healthy and Jones plays 1 down.
This team has lost top flight talent to injury. That top flight talent has to be brought back through the top end of the draft. It has a trickle down effect. Plus they lost a top level G at the age of 30 - almost unheard of in the NFL
They are playing their 3rd RB
Who is all this defensive talent Dallas has.
They have 3 1st rd picks on the OL, Witten was a 3rd Rd pick, Dez was a first and Murray a 3rd. We have seen Dallas play w/o Dez and W/O Murray - they do not win
"Regroup, recover, rejuvenate." Anyone who thought the Giants might show some sign of this today were misled or delusional. The changes required to achieve this, top to bottom, are massive. No one associated with this mess, on or off the field, can escape responsibility for it. Time for a culture change, I'm afraid, not just personnel changes.
Now... it's right back to the sense of hopelessness going into the Detroit game. I want to be stunned and for them to come out big in this, but I just don't see how. They don't have the horses or the genius to mask it.
Let hope we have some NEW YORK GIANTS PRIDE and fight this week.
Good lawd
I hope this game doesn't sound like the Cowboys' local radio feed...
Dallas sucks! Dallas sucks! Dallas sucks!
and shuttup troy
Also think we got a favourable spot
he referenced a 5 yd run 3 times in a series that went 3 and out...
Great 3rd down call, McAdoo.
You know they're jacked to stop Williams. Why not come out throwing? And then to do it twice more? WTF?
They're simply not going to even be in position to be competitive today if they won't even try to push their chips in on the passing game.
It's NOT going to be throwing the ball either.
It's nice like the defenses they played in those 3 games were so terrible.
Pugh I'd average. Nothing more or less.
We know how that'll turn out
Williams is deceptive. He can just about keep up with a TE, he just rarely makes plays, and my grandma is probably a better tackler.
lol.
lol.
What the hell was that?
apparently, TC, Fewell and McAdoo...
lol.
This ass needs to be fucking fired already. Play man to man. Blitz every play and hope for a mistake. Your zone coverages fucking suck.
maybe we'll run into the line 3 more times in a few minutes.
Doesn't look much different this year.
should has spent on oline
Because either Hosley or Rolle blew his assignment. My money is on Hosley.
The one staple of Fewell's defense, the post play post-mortem of pointing and confused looks.
somethings going on
It's just every year.
bunch of bend dont break pussies who eventually break due to some busted coverage or we drop a 500lb guy into coverage or our blitz consists of a bunch of guys running into a fucking wall.
'mazin'!
Probably the one where we lose three yards or so.
Aaron donald Zack martin
Its hard to do much when the cowboy is holding you by your shoulder pads.
More idiocy in stripes trotted out by the NFL.
Yep. Aikman probably has Cowboy underwear and Brenneman flat out sucks
Might as well try to swing the momentum.
That is a first down. The divot is the proof
agree 100%
buck isnt there.
Great awareness there Stevie.
Here comes a 10 play, 80-yard TD drive.
Club!
Great awareness there Stevie.
haha was thinking the same about Brown...
hey 3 out of 53 aint bad.
I can accept not being good, I cannot stand the errors.
You can't make this stuff up.
haha
They started..but not enough so..yet..a few offseason to get it all together. feeling out process
There are far too many players who are far too comfortable. Since we gutted the roster last season to get rid of the bad apples you can only assume it's the coaching at this point. Maybe the hunger is gone or the message is stale, but this isn't a well coached side.
I have declining confidence in our lines O and D.
Takin bets.
Rashad Green from FSU...
Hankins I think. Not sure he was holding his knee but he was slow to get up.
Were gonna draft a tightend.
Takin bets.
$5 on this down - 2nd..
for Dallas
He walked out of the store with underwear and cologne.
DT Cullen Jenkins down after that last play and being helped very, very slowly off the field.
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Which Wide Receiver do you think we will draft next year?
Were gonna draft a tightend.
We don't care who the Jets are going to draft.
commercials have commercials now in between commercials.
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fucking us. These announcers are brutal. Reese better fix this shit during next off season.
They started..but not enough so..yet..a few offseason to get it all together. feeling out process
Well they better hurry up. The coaches have 2 years left on their deal as well as Eli . I want to see a sense of urgency. How many years does Eli have in his prime and he is stuck behind this OL.
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Get it on this play or next???
Takin bets.
$5 on this down - 2nd..
Damn, I lost..
Nah...
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Which Wide Receiver do you think we will draft next year?
Were gonna draft a tightend.
We don't care who the Jets are going to draft.
Jace amaro would start for us.
for Dallas
Hah, they nearly got there with a screen.
Frustration is a mean bitch!
Lol - 1 defender who is blocked and he fair catches
And we're not running on anyone at the moment.
Hard to run with no blocking
Time bomb before he runs the wrong route and gives up a pick 6
Our oline plays soft! Not enough fire or push . Run game is suffering a ton right now. I don't think Jennings could run behind this line!
What a bunch of whiny fucks root for the same team I do.
Seems a poor fit for the scheme. Maybe as a change of pace back but he's not well equipped to be leading the rushing attack he removes too much of the playbook.
Though to be fair on him he did have a decent blitz pick up a play or so back.
Any of you guys remember LT sitting with a calf strain?
Look at that last throw to Randle. Eli went through his progressions before he threw to Randle. Every one else needs to get open.
none of these long developing plays are doing a damn thing.
He is getting destroyed.
Go for it.
the ball wasn't catchable!!!
SHUT UP TROY
But why run it right into the LOS on first down?
Uh, 4th down and the only guy out on a route. Should he take the sack or throw it away there?
We have met the enemy. And it is us.
Just give Eli time.
Protection was good there.
7-7
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Uh, 4th down and the only guy out on a route. Should he take the sack or throw it away there?
Wasn't the only one
+1. My thoughts too.
no, needs more balls thrown his way.
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really needs a new TD dance...LOL
no, needs more balls thrown his way.
that, too.
+2
Amazing. Stop whining about every fucking play.
Can we ban this piece of shit? He's a troll, how is that not ban worthy?
Amazing. Stop whining about every fucking play.
Or you could mind your own business and enjoy the game as you insist everyone else do.
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Can we ban this piece of shit? He's a troll, how is that not ban worthy?
+1
Randle can't even dream of it. Got to have a brain to dream.
LB Jon Beason has left the game with a toe injury. His return is questionable. #NYG
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Can we ban this piece of shit? He's a troll, how is that not ban worthy?
+1
+2
aikman made that call like someone killed his dog.
This booth sucks.
aikman made that call like someone killed his dog.
whoops, meant brennerman
Touchdown Fells!
Eli was about one second from being killed.
bELIeves!!!!!!!
And we are ahead!
Got a laugh out of me.
I know. Can you believe that?
I'm loving this right now!
slow down there, pal...let's not go that far...
Lets get another pick, D!!!
Actually, Kurt Warners pretty good at that too.
thanks for the monotone calls guys
but hey murray got 5 yrds on the first play of the game so the giants are playing bad
I'm loving this right now!
ALso lobbied for an uncatchable ball on the obvious PI the previous series ...
He is such a blantant idiotic homer ,,, an EMBARASSMENT like you say only deserving capital letters ...
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Can knock Eli on a TD pass
Actually, Kurt Warners pretty good at that too.
You got me there. True that!!!
I thought something similar but you expressed it with brilliance.
The Giants are doing a pretty good job against the run.
Kuhn is playing very well.
Just fucking leave him in goddamn Dallas.
Staubach was a great clutch player
Tired from what?
We just had a long drive then picked Romo off in 2 plays. Its not being tired..
i wonder if dipshit will ever figure out a way to stop one. maybe some more soft zone...
Pretty easy when you're allowed to clothesline defenders.
No Pressure Perry
Yea, that play went on long beyond the designed coverage.
Is Murray out?
Instead, we go back to shit that never works and yet justify it after the game.
Pass to TEs easy completion!!!!!!
It was on DL for not getting some pressure.
Last year, it was the offense that was broken, now it is the defense?
he is the type of back that needs to be fed the ball and he gets better
he FINALLY gets a big run and what do Giants do??
bring in hillis
Moore has been in on a couple of third downs.
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Last year, it was the offense that was broken, now it is the defense?
Defense has been broken since SB 46. Last year the inepitutde of the offense overshadowed how bad the defense was. Remember we won 6 games against backup QBs?
Well thats why the defense looked beter than it was.
Witten could play to 60 and he'd still catch passes against the Giants.
ROY WILLIAMS JUST FELL, BUT HE'S GOING TO THE PRO BOWL. FUCK AXTEN!
When was the last time a Fewell blitz got home?
Our asshole is lost in 90 s zone offense
what in the fuck...I say...what in the fuck was that? Way to go geniuses....All i give a fuck about is ELi Manning's stats if the Giants don't win. Let's let him have crisp stats. I really think Coughlin has coached some stupid game sin his post 2011 career with the Giants. Happy Birthday Wuphat.
Lol Tony HOMO sacked! Ya like that? Ya dig! Ya dig!
not the new Romo
Holy fuck, can these guys tackle?????
My dad that died 10 years ago has better tackling abilities. Ya dig?
2) pitbull
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO we had a great time tonight bro thanks again!
Chillen with my boy the one and only SCHOON..... Anything goin down tonight? get at me!
Giants get the ball to start the 2nd half.
whats the BEST thing that can happen there? is Hillis gonna bust a 60 yard run!?
so fucking stupid. i wonder if Barnwell still calls out the idiocy of running the halftime draw.
This made me laugh. WTF...
Agreed
my first laugh of the day! lol
Exit $172 comestry book! What is it made of gold!
He got the TO with 3 seconds and knew couldn't get the play and FG attempt so went draw
Too many bad coaching mistakes for a TC team
Too many men on the field
Beatty off-sides
Missed TO
I wouldn't go as far as saying the Cowboys are not any good. Giants need to stop with these breakdowns and become consistent. Afraid a TO will swing this game to one running away from this game.
He got the TO with 3 seconds and knew couldn't get the play and FG attempt so went draw
Too many bad coaching mistakes for a TC team
Too many men on the field
Beatty off-sides
Missed TO
I like TC, but his time management at the end of halves isn't really one of his stronger points.
As for the coaching mistakes, don't think I'd lump the Beatty false start there, that's a veteran player messing up at a critical point.
But yes, no same as bad clock management and 12 men on the field which are pretty much indefensible
That said -- I love TC but hate those simple and avoidable mistakes
Offense needs to run better and give Eli more time. This one could come down to 4th Quarter final 2 minutes. Dallas has had our number in those situations recently. Can we flip the tables ?
This game is winnable, but we have to stop making mistakes, and must get to Romo. He's reading the complete works of Shakespeare on some of those plays.
bELIeve!!!!!!!
I feel like I'm getting this vibe that I'm being blamed for something that I never did. Leave me the fuck alone. I used to get beat up by my ex-wife all the time and I'm like 6 foot 4 335. Nobody cared about me :( Guerrilla Joe :-(
I feel like I'm getting this vibe that I'm being blamed for something that I never did. Leave me the fuck alone. I used to get beat up by my ex-wife all the time and I'm like 6 foot 4 335. Nobody cared about me :( Guerrilla Joe :-(
Boring. You can do so much better.
Stupid women get to have everything their way. I remember back in the 50's it was "ok"....
it's cold like winter outside.
Almost intercepted. Stupid.
And clear tardiness on our offensive line...Come on PUGH I thought you couldn't sleep??????
FIRST DOWN !!! YEAH !!! GIDIEFOR!
let's get the running game going
Marinelli is PISSED, lol. I would be do if Eli Manning ran all over me.
Thom brennaman has now told us four times
Yeah, don't think forward progress can be challenged
That would require some heads up play by the team and the coaches.
so terrible. I think baseball has a faster speed.
It's a clear cut simple rule.
Hey OFFENSIVE LINE...enough with the FALSE STARTS !!!!
He can't play for us too much longer
Why run on second and 18? How about a screen? Where are the TEs?
It's a clear cut simple rule.
Hey OFFENSIVE LINE...enough with the FALSE STARTS !!!!
I just meant it seemed like an early whistle.
it's on him
Shit throw. Absolutely no need for it to be that high, Randle high pointed it and it was still a fingertip job.
Definetly
Boger Special right there.
He stinks. Hope hes better next year, but he sucks. I dont care if i only see him in 4th qtrs.
The offensive game plan is poor. One reverse to OBJ and that's it. Slamming a smash mouth runner into the line is the rest of our running game. No carries for Cox. No deep passes. Nothing really to the TEs. Short passes on first down could be like long handoffs, and would take some of the pressure off the OL.
If Fewell's playing cover 2 here I'm going to fucking explode.
This guy calls games like he has a mere passing interest in football.
NFL rules today that is usually fifteen
That's what I was thinking too... Eli has to plead his case to the refs or they'll keep doing it
Oh and no more full house formation.
If not for the bad call that Williams was down by contact, that was Dallas ball. Eli had absolutely zero sense of urgency.
False starts when you are on the road and having to go to silent counts are going to happen.
I don't think you can blame the ineptness on that. Poor playcalling getting us behind in down and distance, constant false starts and then a shit throw.
We're far too inconsistent a side. The only thing which is consistent is poor 3rd down play and sloppy play.
need him
The offensive game plan is poor. One reverse to OBJ and that's it. Slamming a smash mouth runner into the line is the rest of our running game. No carries for Cox. No deep passes. Nothing really to the TEs. Short passes on first down could be like long handoffs, and would take some of the pressure off the OL.
The amount of the short passing game which has went out the window when Jennings got hurt is shocking.
If not for the bad call that Williams was down by contact, that was Dallas ball. Eli had absolutely zero sense of urgency.
fucking pathetic pathetic pathetic.
As someone said, except for Beckham, we have no speed, either at WR, TE, LB, or safety. It's a problem on both sides of the ball. I'd like to see them flex out Robinson in the slot.
Jeez. Romo with ALL DAY. And the missed tackles galore. Insane.
And JPP is hurt.
Hey another defender hurt.
Quentin Demps is just a God awful football player
I'm getting ready to explode.
Sure could use him.
Guys are always running free Romo had an eeternity but how are guys always running free.?
Complete defeat at the LOS when it comes to the pass.
Complete.
No pressure on Romo is what did that. Blitz, and play every DB you have on every second and third and long. Letting him sit back there is suicide. Take a chance. You're going to lose anyway if you don't.
No it wasn't, it was a three man rush
The 4th guy dropped back. It was a 3 man rush
Did you watch the game last week?
I would not be surprised if today is the last we see of Beason in a Giants uniform. He has a big cap number next year and they can save about 3.5 million on the cap by cutting him. You can't rely on him to ever stay on the field and even when he's on the field he's just OK
Did you watch the game last week?
He won't blitz
Right on que.
Way to go losers. If they don't win this game, say goodnight....upcoming is Indy, Seattle, Sf, Dallas AGAIN...hey douchebags...can you cover a tight end???
I fucking hate him more than I've ever hated a giants player.
Berhe would have at least put a hit on Escobar there.
just mistake after mistake after mistake. cant get out of their own fucking way
So who else do they have who you think is better?
it was time two seasons ago...
let eli pass....stop changing play at
line too...
It's Rolle, Prince, DRC...and a bunch of reserve trash and castoffs from other teams.
The last 2 games our offensive play selection has me baffled. Last series, 2nd and 18 and you call for another useless run by #44? C'mon.
Yes Demps is late, but really, a CB that can cover Dez Bryant can't cover a TE?
right. they went 95 yards... 3rd and 5 on the the ten yard line... td
He's been in there covering the slot WR
Given how bad this team is at very basic fundamentals and/or not doing basic stupid shit, Tom can have a seat himself with his frustration.
It's Rolle, Prince, DRC...and a bunch of reserve trash and castoffs from other teams.
We can blame Fewell for putting Fenner on Dez Bryant on 3rd and long.
Its both! Dallas looms pretty good with inferior talent!
It's Rolle, Prince, DRC...and a bunch of reserve trash and castoffs from other teams.
That's all great. So then why ask them to cover for 5 seconds?
PS: Can the Simpsons come up with something original anymore. I stopped watching that stupid ass show 20 years ago and they're still running the TREE-HOUSE OF HORROR deed into the ground???? Treehouse of horror 25??? Wow that show sucks
PS: Michael Cox sucks
Damn u will Hill
Do you see loads of talent on this roster? I don't.
Bullshit
Look at what other teams do with a lot less talent
Fewell gets schooled every game five years still confusion is
Horrible
How about the Head Coach is the one that's broken
Did you say this when he took the last kickoff to the 35?
We can't stop them, the 3rd down numbers are obscene and our offense is just inconsistent and wedded to a run game we don't have the horses for.
Power run has been shit.
Perhaps it is time to open it up.
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more waiver wire garbage.
Did you say that last return you fucking asswipe?
Do you see loads of talent on this roster? I don't.
Give belicheck this defense and count the shutouts.
Do you see loads of talent on this roster? I don't.
How could you tell though? Even guys with talent have looked like shit. I don't necessarily disagree, but it's very hard to point a finger at coaching vs. talent when even guys with an established track record are playing at a low level.
#Surprising
Better yet, why is he still in the league?
Look at what other teams do with a lot less talent
Fewell gets schooled every game five years still confusion is Horrible
A lot less talent? A Lot? Seriously? You're fucking kidding, right?
Where do I go to look? Exactly what other teams do so much better with LESS talent than the Giants D? And who are the players on the Giants D you consider to qualify as "talent"?
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TexasGmenFan : 6:26 pm : link : reply
more waiver wire garbage.
Did you say that last return you fucking asswipe?
go fuck yourself. 1 good return to the 29 yard line? put him in Canton jack ass.
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and honestly think...what do you expect?
Do you see loads of talent on this roster? I don't.
Give belicheck this defense and count the shutouts.
The same Belichick whose defense just gave up 25 to Geno & the Jets?
Doing it
Fuck fuck fucking Randle. Stupid ass. Another Reese genius pick.
Throw the ball down the field. Stop with these mindless runs and screen WR screens.
but that's all we have done since he's gotten here????
Throw the ball down the field. Stop with these mindless runs and screen WR screens.
It's maddening!
Hey morons, BEYOND the 1st down marker and they go underneath
Wow, Romo is gonna kill them here
"and that's what KILLED the DRIVE"
First and twenty. So we run. It isn't just the mistakes that put us in third and long. It's our own play calling.
this team is just self destructive.
The inevitable waste of a first down didn't help either. McAdoo needs to grow a set of balls.
First and twenty. So we run. It isn't just the mistakes that put us in third and long. It's our own play calling.
A guy who makes a bad play every two good plays is not a good player. First the drop over the middle. Now this holding.
lol. Just a dive run on 1st and 20 is really going to keep them off balance
this team is just self destructive.
Looked like Eli threw it right at the marker... I think OBJ may have over run his route
And just like that 12 yards.
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TexasGmenFan : 6:26 pm : link : reply
more waiver wire garbage.
Did you say that last return you fucking asswipe?
go fuck yourself. 1 good return to the 29 yard line? put him in Canton jack ass.
It was to the 35 you fucking whiner. Why watch the team if you are just going to sound like a cunt every fucking week?
They aren't even balanced. They're definitively run-first.
If last season Eli traumatized TC into this garbage, then one of them (either Eli or Coughlin) needs to go.
id throw more
They're just outmatched at the minute.
"the sun sets at a western trajectory!"
Last week was pretty bad also.
Won't stop us from trying, again, and again and again and again, and again.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
Huge coaching disparity.
I havent said this many times in my career.... but Coughlin's persistence of running the ball hurt our chances of winning today.
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nice job Cox
TexasGmenFan : 6:26 pm : link : reply
more waiver wire garbage.
Did you say that last return you fucking asswipe?
go fuck yourself. 1 good return to the 29 yard line? put him in Canton jack ass.
It was to the 35 you fucking whiner. Why watch the team if you are just going to sound like a cunt every fucking week?
35. definitely put him in Canton then. your act is so fucking old already, honestly go call someone else out. if you think Michael Cox is NOT waiver wire fodder, I guess i'm glad youre not our GM.
this team has so many issues and if you'd like to wear blinders as they bumble their way through mistakes on every goddamn drive, then enjoy.
believe me, you're the one that sounds like a fucking cunt internet tough guy.
Bull fucking shit. Their D has zero talent but they have been coached up by Marinelli to play good football. We got a bag of dicks who smiles after touchdowns are scored on his D
Yes, that 's the difference
This ain't talent. This is coaching. They running a Tampa 2 against this offense. It's stupid
"the sun sets at a western trajectory!"
16 years ???
It opened a year after our spam can modern art mess.
"the sun sets at a western trajectory!"
Really? Stadium opened in 2009.
Next NFL network show,Finding Giant Scouts.
It was the PENALTIES that kept this team from going FORWARD.
Seasons have "themes." This one for the Giants looks like they can beat the bad teams (Texans, Redskins, Falcons), but not the good teams (Eagles, Dallas). Arizona is somewhere in between.
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...disparity.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
How is he wrong? This team is awful. The coaching is awful, the QB has no idea when to snap the ball to avoid a challenge. You tell me all about our exciting level of talent...
what a fan...lets hope they lose every game...jeez...
With under a minute to go in period!
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...disparity.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
They don't have injuries either? Doug Free, Sean Lee? There is a talent disparity that is pretty large and anyone wathching can see it.
STOP THEM ON 4TH!!!
While he's called a shit game, at the moment they're just outmatched. They're stacking up against the run but still can't stop it and they're on guys from the practice squad in the defensive backfield who can't hold up one on one.
Ultimately the offense hasn't kept up with Dallas, and most of that is on the Giants themselves rather than anything Dallas have done. Our coaching staff is fucking archaic so much so when we get a hot new OC he immediately gets a hard on for a run game we can't execute.
At this point the whole Coaching staff needs cleared out.
The same time we started playing like the Jets.
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and out played. We suck.
Honestly, I can't tell about the coaching or the scheme. The O-line can't run block, the D-line can't get to Romo. I don't think that's scheme; I think it's talent and execution. I doubt better coaching would have solved that.
Bullshit. The commitment to the running game is beyond comical. Putting ourselves in third and long for no reason. Use the pass to setup the run for a change...especially when we're averaging 2 ypc.
Running to keep D honest. Otherwise they tee off. Eli very effective with play action if there's at least a threat to run.
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...disparity.
Really? Then how do you figure despite all our injuries, we're only down by 7 on the road?
You continue to be one of BBI's worst posters. Kudos for the consistency.
They don't have injuries either? Doug Free, Sean Lee? There is a talent disparity that is pretty large and anyone wathching can see it.
Those two are the best you could do? Have you seen who we're putting out there at CB? Or the fact that John Jerry is still starting on the OL? Or that we lost Victor Cruz last week, and we're still out Jennings?
Or more importantly - do you watch this fucking team at all, or are you just here to whine?
I thought we wanted to be just like the Jets?
When wasn't a whiner site?
yeah covering the gunner.
"the sun sets at a western trajectory!"
16 years ???
It opened a year after our spam can modern art mess.
exactly. all i said was that it was a poor decision to take the kick out and that yes he is in fact waiver wire fodder. i'd call being a FIFTH string RB just that.
but if you mention even an iota of negativity, you're a bad fan or whining.
Must be new here. Whining is the BBI mato!
Coughin just can't prepare this team anymore
Is this a joke?
Coughin just can't prepare this team anymore
I agree. Need a new coaching staff win or lose
No more North-South running backs.
Coughin just can't prepare this team anymore
Yea, if only we had the right coach to take this Super Bowl level roster somewhere.
holy shit.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
It's a fucking joke that they are dating them to throw and we keep running it.
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The one constant is Coughlin. Fire him and Fewell...promote McAdoo.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
+1
Yup
I agree with whoever said that TC won't let McAdoo give up on the run. No quick slants. No trying to threaten the middle of the field.
FIRE OUR FUCKING D CORD TOMORROW.
what a bitch defense. Great job Larry Donnell you pile of shit.
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The one constant is Coughlin. Fire him and Fewell...promote McAdoo.
Talent? There are maybe 5 players out of 53 who could start on almost any other team in the league ...
The problem isn't TC ... or even Reese ... all you need to know is that a MARA is actually on the staff ... literally on the staff ... if that's the case, you KNOW John Mara is controlling things behind the scenes ... it's a disaster we Giant fans lived through until the Commish intervened in 1979 ... now its back, worse than ever
+1
A few Mara's have a lot to say.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
This 2014 New York Giants team? or us on BBI watching the game?
we had a great week of practice
sadly agree
At 3-4? No, although 0-2 in the division sure as shit doesn't help.
Or defense didn't.but should have
The coaching on this team is the major issue. Good coaching can mask talent deficiencies, no NFL team is complete.
At some point you have to realize the D isn't great and that people second-guessing the calls are only doing it out of frustration.
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At 3-4? No, although 0-2 in the division sure as shit doesn't help.
The skins are in our division too...and we curbstomped them.
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season fellas
At 3-4? No, although 0-2 in the division sure as shit doesn't help.
1-2, not that it's that much better.
Agree. But he has a great RB this year and a solid OL. He was above averag the last 8 years without it.
Fire Fewell. I'm sick of this pathetic display week after week.
thank you for also posting this.
Sick and beyond tired of reading people blame perry nonstop.
look at our opening 3 plays.
look at how even Aikman calls out McAdoo for constantly calling the same stupid plays that havent worked the whole game.
yet, people will still find ways to blame perry.
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At 3-4? No, although 0-2 in the division sure as shit doesn't help.
They're done. They talked this up as a must win and didn't. The team is a sloppy error strewn mess.
FIRE OUR FUCKING D CORD TOMORROW.
+1. Should have been fired two years ago. He's a disgrace.
Nah, owners are too lazy to rebuild and will have a hard time finding coaches that can pass their qualifications.
The defensive line is invisible for large parts of most games. If they can't beat guys at least once in a while most defenses fall apart.
This isn't about McAdoo.
The obsession with the run comes directly from Coughlin, who is even more scarred and obsessed with it after the disaster last year.
Nope, ownership will ride Coughlin and Eli until one of them dies.
This team is awful.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
Same old shit coming in the post game
Eli played extremely well today
Oh, it was me!!
Well, the ensuing TD=the TD by LD off the PA pick.
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and is this poorly disciplined.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
You wanted them to stay with Sheridan?
At some point you have to realize the D isn't great and that people second-guessing the calls are only doing it out of frustration.
Come on. Lets not act like this defense has zero talent. Putting Fenner on Dez, putting Jenkins in pass coverage, going zone on 3rd and long, rushing 3 guys..... those are all HIS designs. They dont work.
And if they dont work..... find someone else. Because outside of 6 games in 2011..... our defense has sucked ass when it matters the most. Eli/TC can get an extension for 2007/2011..... we cant give Perry anymore.
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and is this poorly disciplined.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
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and is this poorly disciplined.
They may have talent holes, but this shit comes from a coach that just isn't getting through.
I know people want to give Tom a pass for life and pretend nothing is ever his fault, but this shit is at his door.
Sure he is. He's made the team his personal toy. This is what you get when you have an interfering owner. Fewell is here because Mara insisted on a change. Just like he did with Gilbride. My only complaint about TC is that he didn't take the football and shove it up Mara's asshole.
+1 - Mara is certainly involved.
I am fully converted. It's time for him to go.
With Eli Manning as our QB.
Something is terribly wrong. Oh and here comes another 2 TD + loss.
If it's on Reese then why do Mara family members cast votes on who gets drafted?
LOL, did the Super Bowl win in Feb '12 not happen? Fact is our OL and guys like Tuck/Osi got old quickly, our best WR turned into a headcase, and we've had a bunch of key injuries.
Just like the false start on 4th and 1 in the first.
with this d you can slow team down
so long and hope for turnovers. ..
but offense needs to score....
so tc runs ball and wears out clock...
with little gain...while passing was doing good..
oline coaching and others is on tc....
doesnt want a threat to take his job....
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Really the only thing to do is fire McAdoo before the end of the game. Period.
This isn't about McAdoo.
The obsession with the run comes directly from Coughlin, who is even more scarred and obsessed with it after the disaster last year.
Agreed. This has nothing to do with McAdoo
Don't people remember COughlin made McAdoo sit down with him and Tom selected every play he approved out of his binder? I think that was what Collinsworth said on the sunday night game.
Tom is over the hill. He's done, sorry.
The coaching on this team is the major issue. Good coaching can mask talent deficiencies, no NFL team is complete.
We don't have Murray or a Bryant on offense and once again, our lb's and safeties are slow.
Game not over yet.
Disappointing loss, we'll look at everything during bye and season's got 9 games left anything can happen.....same old.BS
(Just like the team!)
Now they run
just get a throwing TD eli or a Williams run TD
Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
ummm, do you seriously believe John Mara had nothing to do with hiring Fewell? Seriously? I mean, duh! He's involved in the draft, free agency but you think he's not involved when he forces a coaching change in the hiring of the replacement? Email me. I have some stuff I want to sell you.
Even running for a loss is needed to try to not project pass every time hillis is in.
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Eh, that kind of ignores the fact that Coughlin picked the DCs. And he doesn't exactly have a great record there, either.
ummm, do you seriously believe John Mara had nothing to do with hiring Fewell? Seriously? I mean, duh! He's involved in the draft, free agency but you think he's not involved when he forces a coaching change in the hiring of the replacement? Email me. I have some stuff I want to sell you.
Nothing to do? No, he owns the team I'm sure he was consulted.
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
We're not running it for no gain every second play.
Both. Taking advantage of soft D is good.
Obviously a Dallas fan. Go away.
you know what's funny? For all the people that complain abotu my posts, I've only run across 3-4 people who actually tried to deconstruct any of the arguments i've made. On the whole, all of you have utterly failed.
Idiot Hollis, sneak it in there!!
It's interesting that you pick DT where we have a suitable replacement for Linval Joseph in Hankins. Blame Reese if you want, but not being able to resign guys who cash in for big bucks in FA is not something he deserves blame for.
it's one thing if 3-4 was just a few bad plays and some dumb luck.. if the Giants were winning any individual battle or had some talent shinning it would be different but 3-4 with nowhere to go but down, no hope of a new direction and no new talent waiting on the sidelines to burst out.. you have a 1-2 record in the division... yeah, it looks bleak.
I'm thinking dallas d was letting up some there. next drive will tell if so or not
hopefully theres a fire lit under their asses now...game isnt over.
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Declaring the season over at 3-4, if we lose, is fucking moronic.
it's one thing if 3-4 was just a few bad plays and some dumb luck.. if the Giants were winning any individual battle or had some talent shinning it would be different but 3-4 with nowhere to go but down, no hope of a new direction and no new talent waiting on the sidelines to burst out.. you have a 1-2 record in the division... yeah, it looks bleak.
This team reeks of being a 500 team. I don't think anyone could argue otherwise.
False they blitzed quite a few times that drive.
Cause then we won't have a balanced offense... That would be blasphemous
0 confidence in our Defense to make a stop now. We need the ball now with time. Get the ball back tie it up and get it to OT. All you could hope for now. Can the stars align today?!
2 tds before we do this?
Also.. if Ogeltree isnt playing
why ot Washington. ..should be
doing end zone passes. ..
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
Coughlin hired his initial coordinators. But the firings of coodinators has clearly been Mara - and Mara has neutered TC by forcing him to fire his coordinators. Like I said - TC should have been man enough to say "Fuck you" and walk away - but he let Mara cuckold him. So they're both to blame.
But, for me, it's Mara that is the problem ... because he isn't going anywhere and therefore this SHIT SHOW is going to continue until your great grandchildren finally give up and become Eagle fans.
Gotta start someplace. If they could find a way to pull this one out, who knows where they go from here.
That's the problem with the Giants under TC, they're basically a random number generator.
Our D can't stop anyone.
Dallas with 400 yards today!!!
Loser ass defense couldn't stop my mentally disabled sister
way to go, little girls.
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Nothing to do? No, he owns the team I'm sure he was consulted.
But if you're implying TC didn't hire Tim Lewis, didn't hire Perry Fewell, didn't promote Bill Sheridan - then you basically are claiming that Mara was responsible for it all, including the two SB championships. TC was just a puppet brought in for legitimacy in that case.
Coughlin hired his initial coordinators. But the firings of coodinators has clearly been Mara - and Mara has neutered TC by forcing him to fire his coordinators. Like I said - TC should have been man enough to say "Fuck you" and walk away - but he let Mara cuckold him. So they're both to blame.
But, for me, it's Mara that is the problem ... because he isn't going anywhere and therefore this SHIT SHOW is going to continue until your great grandchildren finally give up and become Eagle fans.
Wow, that's a whole lot of stupid there.
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
game is over unless they somehow turn it over.
way to go D! another worthless showing
So say what you want about Fewell, but I don't think he's our problem. Might not be a great DC, but he's no worse than average.
Changes need to be made.
Romo with no incompletions in the 2nd half. Dont give me this talent shit.
We couldnt stop Megatron when healthy, we cant stop Dez. But we will make more excuses for the defense.
Fuck this team. Once again won't even sniff a playoff hunt.
Optimism. I like that!
So my viewership will continue its nosedive...
No pressure on romo. So perfect throws
You have heard of the salary cap, right? That situation not only happens, it happens to all teams and it happens all the damn time.
Unless you're suggesting that we should've paid Joseph the truckload of money he made instead of drafting Hankins.
Once in awhile we would be "competitive".
Not to kill Banks, none of this is his fault, but why doesn't anyone ever call out Fewell's shit game plans?
DRC would have covered Bryant had he been healthy
No the offense has plenty of blame for this as well. Quinn gets a week off being the whipping boy, special teams kind of showed up.
We're not very good, but unfortunately we're not so inept that we'll tank the season. We're middling, we'll end up 7-9 or 6-10, maybe 8-8 at a push, get a mid round draft pick.
This team needs a talent infusion to go along with a coaching change.
we couldnt run...last series was what we
should have been doing
So my viewership will continue its nosedive...
huh? They've totally earned their wins. Fuck them, but they're playing really well.
Bullshit. He's been on Dez, like white on rice. No pressure on Romo, so he's throwing perfect throws
Dunno - we don't have a lot of money committed to WR (aside for Cruz, who can't contribute because he's out) and if we had the CBs that we paid for on the field right now, we'd be looking at a different result.
Wow, that's a whole lot of stupid there.
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
Because there is now a Mara on the fucking staff. This team has zero talent. Zero. None. Nada. And if you think they do, I'd LOVE to hear your list of players that represent the future Super Bowl this team is going to win. MARA now controls this team. Not Reese and Not TC. He makes the draft decisions. He selects the free agents. And he decides what coordinators get fired and who their replacements are.
That's why YOU have already seen the last SB the Giants will win during your lifetime (I'm 62 so clearly it won't be during my lifetime).
Oh shush up. Prince is damn good.
our team sucks
Skimp on one or the other and the team fails.
But Prince does zip at the LOS vs Bryant. Can't even get a hand on him to redirect him a bit. Prince is not a #1 CB IMO.
There's no embarrassment with them being 6-1 other than that they're Dallas.
it's the same idiot that says the same shit that got banned before under a diff name... the fact that Eric does not freeze registrations on game day has always stunned me.
There's no embarrassment with them being 6-1 other than that they're Dallas.
They're still weak defensively which will hopefully be their downfall but you could say that about the other NFC contenders (yes even Seattle who are hurting upfront and at LB)
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Wow, that's a whole lot of stupid there.
You realize this shit show has generated 2 SB titles in the past 10 years? Why exactly would my great grandchildren go running to the championship-free organization?
Because there is now a Mara on the fucking staff. This team has zero talent. Zero. None. Nada. And if you think they do, I'd LOVE to hear your list of players that represent the future Super Bowl this team is going to win. MARA now controls this team. Not Reese and Not TC. He makes the draft decisions. He selects the free agents. And he decides what coordinators get fired and who their replacements are.
That's why YOU have already seen the last SB the Giants will win during your lifetime (I'm 62 so clearly it won't be during my lifetime).
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
I keep pointing this out but it bears repeating. Reese like Accorsi needs to re-think which positions he values more in the draft and free agency.
The results on the field speak for themselves on those accounts.
Just this one single time in this situation.
what the fuck happened in the last 7 days
Please go troll somewhere else.
...but the Giants were really beaten pretty solid today.
On both sides of the ball.
It's about the line of scrimmage.
We've got Hankins and maybe 2 other guys between 5 offensive linemen and 4 defensive linemen.
Every one else.... ho-hum.
No doubt about it
Larry Donnell...6 foot 4 of being a BITCH !!
We might be 3-8 by then.
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Prince. Prince isn't even playing poorly. He had good coverage there again. Dez is a beast.
But Prince does zip at the LOS vs Bryant. Can't even get a hand on him to redirect him a bit. Prince is not a #1 CB IMO.
His majesty wouldnt move WR
His majesty would get throw by Dez if he tried to jam Dez. And if he falls or stumbles you have him running free. No thanks.
I don't even want to think of what would happen if Prince kept trying to jam Dez. He played as well as he can play. Dez is just that good. Meanwhile our fucking offense does stupid shit.
Eli must be shaking his head like you surrounded me with his group.
Larry Donnell...6 foot 4 of being a BITCH !!
Go away Dalls asshole please. What a fucking loser.
that made me laugh in my misery
Is it only about Eli for you? He gave it his all today, and he isn't worried about throwing a pick even when chances of winning are 1000 to 1.
Who is responsible for that? Is it the players we sign or is it a reflection of the coaching staff?
Props to Eli for hanging in there and playing well while the team crumbles around him.
Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
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Einstein, that same Mara has been "in charge" (if we're going to play the crazy card) for that same period, and we have two titles to show for it.
As for the talented players - you're nuts if you think the roster is bereft of talent. We certainly have work to do to address some holes, but there isn't anywhere close to ZERO NADA or whatever other stupid crap morons like to yell at their screen would imply.
If the League gave someone permission to start a new team and select whatever 53 players from existing teams, there would be ZERO players on the Giants taken. None. Not one. That's talent for ya. Fucking moron.
And Mara's involvement since his father's death has been a slow and steady progression. So don't give me your shit about the "same Mara". It isn't the "same Mara". He forced his fucking nephew onto the staff. And it's going to just get worse. Genius.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
of last scoring drive....looked like KG
today.... Tc playbook is not good..
forcing run...I think we could run if
they used some differant plays...
also eli was at center every run...
thet knew....cant wait to hear tc
Who and how many key injuries we suffer this week?
They needed this talentless piece of shit team to turn the ball over twice to secure their win at home, despite being down a few key guys. I'm less impressed with Dallas than I was coming in, especially knowing the Seahawks lost to the Rams.
You're right. Nobody would pick two time SB MVP Eli Manning. Nor would they take Beckham, who rang up Dallas for two TDs today.
Nobody would take Richburg, he's a giant pile of shit too.
I should keep going, but you're not worth the effort. You should save future generations the pain and switch to rooting for the Eagles, pronto.
Talk about being a homer. You seriously think sommeone starting a new team who could take any 53 players in the League he wanted would take
A Manning not named Peyton as QB?
And Richburg on OL?
And Beckham? as one of the top 3 WR in all of football?
Cmon ... stop being funny. The Giants don't have a single solitary player who is the best at his position. They don't have a single solitary player who is top 5 at his position.
He also hedged his bet by selling part of the team to Tish.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
I really think you should follow your own advice and root for the Eagles, you'd fit right in there.
You're good at throwing around insults. Nothing much else though. The GIANTS don't have top 5 at any position. They maybe have 5 players who could start on any other team.
If you think this team has talent, well, like I said, you're good at throwing around insults, but not much other from an intelligence standpoint.
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
Knowing full well how we've fared championship-wise the last 30 years and how they've done.
Then you try to pull some kind of half-assed about face and make it about top talent, as if we had anyone who could be considered #1 overall at their position when we cranked out those last two SBs.
Like I've said before - take your own advice and take shelter with the Eagles. You deserve better, right?
There are many of us who watched a Mara controlled team well before you were born. We didn't waste our time. We had hope. But - and it is a big but - there wasn't success because of the Maras. It wasn't until the League stepped in and forced the Maras to accept George Young - and here is the kicker - to accept him without interference from them - it wasn't until that happened that the Giants that YOU got to watch finally occurred. Because - when you let the professionals do their jobs - you get talent on the field.
The Giants have SHIT for talent. Clearly the lower 1/3rd in the league talent wise. And it's no coincidence that the drop in talent takes place after old man Mara dies and the kid starts more and more sticking his fucking nose where it doesn't belong. IMO that is the biggest reason for the horrible drafts and the reason why this team has dropped off a cliff talent wise.
Talent on the Giants:
Manning
Beckham
Hankins
Cromartie
Amukamara
Maybe... Richburg, Pugh
That's it. Pretty much the entire rest of the current squad are replacement pieces.
This team has lost top flight talent to injury. That top flight talent has to be brought back through the top end of the draft. It has a trickle down effect. Plus they lost a top level G at the age of 30 - almost unheard of in the NFL
They are playing their 3rd RB
Who is all this defensive talent Dallas has.
They have 3 1st rd picks on the OL, Witten was a 3rd Rd pick, Dez was a first and Murray a 3rd. We have seen Dallas play w/o Dez and W/O Murray - they do not win
This team has talent, it needs health