But mainly on Tom Coughlin. They stuck with the run despite how terrible it was performing. Everyone knows Uncle Tom is the one who wants to stick with the run so I assume Mcadoo's hands are tied here.
The Giants ran on first and second down when you they couldn't gain an inch at times. Now how does it make sense to keep calling those same damn plays in the 4th quarter when you are losing? I understand trying to establish the run, but when it can't be established, thats when you turn to your franchise QB and let him lead you down the field.
When they finally did this it was too late. It's complete garbage. Coughlin is too stubborn and too old. He needs to evolve and get with it, fast or fans will be calling for his head at the end of the year if not sooner.
Nice try but we just don't have enough talent on the oline and way too many key injuries.
Bullshit. 3 TDs through the air today. And Eli had time in the pocket on a lot of plays today. The run game is horseshit, so stop calling horseshit.
Nice try but we just don't have enough talent on the oline and way too many key injuries.
So you think the amount of ineffective run plays wasn't an issue?
Dallas did not drop passes, committed less penalties and converted 3rd downs.
This defense, since mid 2012, has not gotten teams off the field on 3rd down
You know that its possible to look at whats worked and hasn't worked right?
I have a feeling that is more of a TC thing though Ben M. mentioned it too. They protected Eli and played it safe after the Eagles game where we tried doing different things.
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That it is not possible to know the play won't work before you call it?
You know that its possible to look at whats worked and hasn't worked right?
I am sure I am not the only one that would have preferred the 3rd and 1 instead of the 3rd and 6 when Cowboys were within their their own Giants 20 yardline in the third Q. Jeez that was frustrating.
Preaching to BBI doesn't do jack. Send a sternly worded letter to Tom Coughlin with a cc to Reese, Tisch and Mara (and don't forget the NYT sports page).
Despite the defense we could have won this game today having held Dallas to 21 points through 3 and a half quarters until a costly turnover. Everyone knows this defense isn't a top 10 unit, but Manning has shown he can carry the team. On a day when the running game was molasses it was time to put the game in Eli's hands. When they finally did (with 7 minutes left) he once again produced, but it was too fucking late.
I'm just getting fucking sick of the coaching on this team everywhere: specials, defense, offense, but in particular offense today. Fucking hot garbage.
First possession after forcing a quick 3 and out.
Run
Run
Run
that says it all.
Coughlin is over the hill, it's just time guys. The sooner we realize this, the better we will be off. He's now handcuffed McAdoo and Eli, and it is under the guise of some new offense.
If you are consistently getting to 3rd and 3-4-5 while running on 2nd and long, then fine. But if you are still getting stuffed on 2nd and long you need to be a throw first team.
The D didn't do ANYTHING
so basically stfu
This is not a Fewell thread. You're either blind, illiterate, or dumb. Probably the last of those three. Read my posts and then read the title of this thread. Otherwise, go suck on a tail pipe.
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I'm sick of preaching about penalties and turnovers yet it still happens
Preaching to BBI doesn't do jack. Send a sternly worded letter to Tom Coughlin with a cc to Reese, Tisch and Mara (and don't forget the NYT sports page).
Despite this obvious "no threat to run", it was a big reason Fells was wide open for the TD and why the Giants were up 14-7. It was also why Eli wasn't pressured all night long.
I'd say this game is on Fewell if you had to give me a choice, band you picked two of the other guys, which is really strange to me.
I'm reminded of the clip from the Super Bowl in which Belichek tells the defense not to let Nicks and Cruz beat them. The Fewell philosophy seems to be treat Nicks and Cruz like Bear Pascoe... single coverage (if any coverage) for everyone.
Was Fells open because of a credible threat to run the ball or because Dallas was daring us all game to run plays like that by stacking up against the run in early down situations?
Bad running plays aren't the only way to establish balance. You can also back a team off with the pass and then start running. You can also look to a short passing game to supplement for an ineffective running game.
I'm just tired of seeing us go to 2nd and 3rd and 7-10 with awful looking running plays and then somehow claiming that this helps the offense. When teams have to start guessing what's coming and the threat of both is credible....THEN the balance does something. Otherwise...it just seems to me that we're giving up downs to achieve a number perceived to be ideal on a stat sheet rather than allowing it to develop as a result of actually being able to attack in both ways.
Not being one-dimensional brings a lot of positives - even if there are short-term issues with drives stalling.
I understand as a general matter that it is beneficial to consciously stick with the run even when it doesn't appear to be working because eventually it may and the offense is better off if it does. I also just think there are some days, like today, when you are simply wasting downs trying to do what you clearly cannot. I don't think the "balance" made the passing game more effective. I think it just took away opportunities to do what we WERE doing well, put MORE stress on Eli on later downs, and generally made defending us EASIER.