Between the punch-him-in-the-face-worthy run first (not even balanced) game plan for most of the game and just how poorly disciplined pretty much the entire team is, this is just a really badly coached team right now -- even if it's also a team lacking in talent as well.
I've put most of this team's downfall at Reese's door until now (and still will going forward), but Jerry Reese isn't the one getting these guys ready every week, for every game. He's not the one who can't get through to these guys' brains and instill basic fundamentals at this point. That's Tom Coughlin's gig.
situation is that we do not
have a competent runner since
Jennings is out. So we double down
on the running with a rookie power runner
with no field vision or allusiveness.
Not much reason for optimism without some change. Clearly an infusion of talent and speed is needed as well as toughness. I have no faith in Reese to fix this mess. I have no confidence in Fewell either. I will always respect Coughlin but if an entirenrebuild is in order lets start anew.
Couple of offensive linemen, couple of backs, couple of TEs, couple of WRs, couple of defensive linemen, couple of linebackers and a couple of defensive backs.
No playoffs this season. On offense we have Eli, Beckham and a whole lot of questions. Defense is a mess. I haven't been a "Fire Fewell" guy, but we could use a change.
is we were desperate and needed a win (a must win said JPP) and we just couldn't hang with them. We're fighting, but we just don't have all the pieces and some injuries at key positions are hurting us.
but quite honestly what has the organization
done to give him linebackers or dlinetne
that have power and quickness or in the cae of linebackers can actually cover in space?
When you lose your best lb, your best corner is dinged up, your 3rd and 4 th corners are out, you cut your safety, your second highest paid ol is out, your best rb and your best wr are out. The season is over as far as making the playoffs. We are 30 mil under the cap without clearing room with Eli. It is important to sign Prince and JPP and other free agents.
at the end of the first half. Tom botched the clock management, and the second half was all Dallas. Not that I'm pinning it on him.
Can we break up the Larry Donnell Fan Club? That night in Washington will probably be his lone career highlight. No tight ends and no linebackers, year after year.
I'm sure nearly everyone here predicted this team to be
anywhere between 7-9 and 9-7. So now that we're on the way there, people still freak out. This wasn't a bad effort...no one to really blame for anything. They didn't blow the game...they got beat.
The people blaming Coughlin, Fewell, or anyone else are very stupid and would serve BBI well to never return to the site.
TC says we have to have balance. He's so stubborn. Says we were in no huddle most of the game. Big difference between no huddle and hurry up. Got ornery when asked about it. Reporter backed down.
had some ball security issues - but he's a good player. Once they see you cough up the ball - it's like chum in the water. Thinking he is not going to be a pretty decent player is short sighted.
problem is the lack of team speed on offense and defense, at RB, WR, TE, LB, and S. This problem has existed for years. It's on Reese.
Play calling was unreal. Had to know that Dallas would gang up to stop the run, given our lack of speed at WR and TE, and our marginal OL. So we played right into what they expected, and did so not even with a speed back, but a smash mouth runner who needs a hole to get to the second level to do damage. And we kept doing it, apparently to try and "establish the run." Stupid.
The OL was very bad. Didn't see anyone who played well. Just awful.
On defense, no pressure, and no speed at LB and S killed us.
at the end of the first half. Tom botched the clock management, and the second half was all Dallas. Not that I'm pinning it on him.
Can we break up the Larry Donnell Fan Club? That night in Washington will probably be his lone career highlight. No tight ends and no linebackers, year after year.
Donnell had 7 catches for 90 yards. Was the top receiver.
They get paid too
Very dissapointed
We did some good things
You just have to go back to work
We're professionals
Agreed.
AS others have mentioned, if you are behind a "better" team in their house in the 4Q, the last thing you should worry about is "balance".
So what if we SHOULD be able to run on Dallas, we had 3Q to prove that we CAN'T. I don't remember any outlet passes to Williams (other than designed screens). When he is in they just gear up to stop the run. (And we can run a screen.)
But all in all, given our state of development, I thought they gave a good effort and I enjoyed the game.
Fewell and McAdoo played not to lose instead of balls to the wall. Eli had all day to throw yet we continued with one yard and a cloud of dust running attack. And Fewell is clueless. We rarely blitz and have poor blitz schemes when we do. Play of the game....after Dallas penalty 3rd and 6 from inside their 15 Fewell rushes three and gets toasted by Romo. We have no pressure and he rushes three. Gutless.
That can cover the te.another run stopping dt.another safety besides rolle.they also need more oline help and a blocking te.until then this crappy football is what we will continue to see.at least they will be picking high up in the draft.also time for a new coaching staff.
on the stubbornness to run the ball with our shitty OL. Saw it last week and again this week. At some point, you have to run less and throw more. As soon as we started throwing the ball to our receivers we scored a much needed TD. Definitely looked like dull old Gillbride's offense without the down the field plays. Beckham is the goods. Have faith they will come back strong after the bye.
Very dissapointed
We did some good things
You just have to go back to work
We're professionals
But the Giants may have to rethink this run at all costs stuff.
Giants can beat this team. Safety play sucked - for God's sakes make a play for that 2nd TD to Escobar.
Everyone will be on Dallas sack even more now, but the Giants can beat them.
I've put most of this team's downfall at Reese's door until now (and still will going forward), but Jerry Reese isn't the one getting these guys ready every week, for every game. He's not the one who can't get through to these guys' brains and instill basic fundamentals at this point. That's Tom Coughlin's gig.
4-3 would have felt a lot different with the next 3 games against some of the better teams in the league.
2 weeks to have to watch this defense play Andrew Luck. Yikes.
have a competent runner since
Jennings is out. So we double down
on the running with a rookie power runner
with no field vision or allusiveness.
4-3 would have felt a lot different with the next 3 games against some of the better teams in the league.
2 weeks to have to watch this defense play Andrew Luck. Yikes.
No playoffs this season. On offense we have Eli, Beckham and a whole lot of questions. Defense is a mess. I haven't been a "Fire Fewell" guy, but we could use a change.
done to give him linebackers or dlinetne
that have power and quickness or in the cae of linebackers can actually cover in space?
But man, this D can not buy a big stop.
That's my take away.....no holes to run in, and no pressure on the QB who didn't have an incompletion the entire 2nd half
Plus welcome to the NFL Larry Donnell
Can we break up the Larry Donnell Fan Club? That night in Washington will probably be his lone career highlight. No tight ends and no linebackers, year after year.
The people blaming Coughlin, Fewell, or anyone else are very stupid and would serve BBI well to never return to the site.
Play calling was unreal. Had to know that Dallas would gang up to stop the run, given our lack of speed at WR and TE, and our marginal OL. So we played right into what they expected, and did so not even with a speed back, but a smash mouth runner who needs a hole to get to the second level to do damage. And we kept doing it, apparently to try and "establish the run." Stupid.
The OL was very bad. Didn't see anyone who played well. Just awful.
On defense, no pressure, and no speed at LB and S killed us.
We also made a shit ton of mistakes.
Can we break up the Larry Donnell Fan Club? That night in Washington will probably be his lone career highlight. No tight ends and no linebackers, year after year.
Donnell had 7 catches for 90 yards. Was the top receiver.
Very dissapointed
We did some good things
You just have to go back to work
We're professionals
Agreed.
AS others have mentioned, if you are behind a "better" team in their house in the 4Q, the last thing you should worry about is "balance".
So what if we SHOULD be able to run on Dallas, we had 3Q to prove that we CAN'T. I don't remember any outlet passes to Williams (other than designed screens). When he is in they just gear up to stop the run. (And we can run a screen.)
But all in all, given our state of development, I thought they gave a good effort and I enjoyed the game.
The offensive play calling was real, real bad. I bet the Cows will laugh at it when they review the game tape tomorrow.
I agree
RE: Murray - he still hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy.
Let's see what Dallas does against the Cards.
I agree, but Giants didnt help their cause either.
Penalties, TOs, stubborn play calling, miscommunication... etc.
Despite Dallas being a better team, this a game the Giants could have won