It's time for the Giants to make a change at HC at the end of the season. Coughlin and his staff is getting out coached more and more often.
Since starting 2012 at 6-2, this team is 13-17.
The Giants are getting out coached and out classed.
I love Coach Coughlin, but it's time for him to go.
I'm sorry to say that...
Does a new coach want a new QB or an older one?
There are questions
1. Lack of discipline when this was his main priority. This includes: illegal procedure, ball protection and basic fundamentals.
2. His stubbornness on running the ball when it clearly does not work.
3. His choice of coaches and not holding them accountable. Signing off on Fewell's gameplan week after week when it's the same shit over and over again. Quinn, enough said. McAdoo gets a pass.
But if they finish with a losing record -- as now seems very likely -- he will be fired. (Which I assume benefits him financially, as if he retired or resigned they wouldn't have to pay off his contract, right?)
I do think it's sad the disrespect this guy gets on the site and how many times fans want to push him out. Jet fans want Rex to stay and TC has given us two Super Bowls and relevancy just about every year here. Even last season when the team could have quit, they went 7-3 down the stretch.
I believe if the Giants don't make the playoffs he will retire. He won't want to put Mara in the position to have to fire him making Mara unpopular. He is 60 plus years old and I think he will walk away.
Same posts every year. They went away during the seasons immediately following the SB wins though.
I do think it's sad the disrespect this guy gets on the site and how many times fans want to push him out. Jet fans want Rex to stay and TC has given us two Super Bowls and relevancy just about every year here. Even last season when the team could have quit, they went 7-3 down the stretch.
They stunk last year. 7-3 was a mirage against backup QBs and cost us a top 10 draft pick, but probably saved TC's job.
Tommy is the true Teflon Don
This is that time for the Giants. A year too late in my opinion. They should have cleaned house last off-season and started fresh.
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Took a timeout
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The laundry lost of add scenerios is adding up (start the game 3 into the line, last weeks bizzare challenge against Philly, etc).
arc: TC will always be remembered for his 2 great SB runs. However there are glaring problems with this team that he is responsible for. I'd either promote him or retire him at the end of the year.
Bring in a younger D minded replacement that won't mind keeping McAdoo for at least a year.
(I think TC had a lot to say in the hiring of BMc over Gilbride and that this was his way of changing with the times.)
This is our main offensive issue. WC offense sets up the run by using short passing game. Doesn't mean they don't run or have a commitment to it, but first downs where we run and gain nothing puts us behind from the get go and this is because Coughlin demands the offense to force the run all the dam time. It's not his philosophy to use the short game to do so. That's the issue with out O right now. Take the handcuffs off the guy and let him do what he was brought in to do.
Defensively without injuries we may have better personnel than how we are performing but when you have to run the Will Demps and Fenner's out there in key situations you are asking for trouble.
This team lacks talent, change HC's if you will but there needs to be substantive change in the front office as well...no excuse for the lack of young talent on this roster.
This team lacks talent, change HC's if you will but there needs to be substantive change in the front office as well...no excuse for the lack of young talent on this roster.
Dawg: I agree. Reese had 5 bad drafts in a row. It looks like he changed people or philosophy b/c it looks like 2013 & 2014 were good drafts. I'd keep Reese around.
The talent has to improve. Coaching incompetence is not an issue.
Green Bay: Rushes: 175 Passes: 218 % of run plays: 44.5
NY Giants: Rushes: 213 Passes: 230 % of run plays: 48.0
Not a huge difference. In a 60 play game it's a difference of choosing 3 more runs than passes.
Today it probably should have been 70/30 in favor of pass.
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and let him call it his way...Green Bay was never this committed to the run. Put the ball in Eli's hands and let Eli do what Eli does best.
This is our main offensive issue. WC offense sets up the run by using short passing game. Doesn't mean they don't run or have a commitment to it, but first downs where we run and gain nothing puts us behind from the get go and this is because Coughlin demands the offense to force the run all the dam time. It's not his philosophy to use the short game to do so. That's the issue with out O right now. Take the handcuffs off the guy and let him do what he was brought in to do.
What's FAR more likely is TC told his fucking Noob OC "To beat Dallas you need to establish the run" and it's quite fitting for an HC to do that and establish a general approach. That the guy doesn't have werewithal to change his approach and adapt is on him, he should or could have made adjustments, don't blame TC for MacAdoos shit. People need to own their own shit, and if MacAdoo doesn't own his then he sucks anyway.
If this pass-dominated era was just a fad, I'd trust Coughlin. But if it is here to stay, I fear TC just may not the best guy . I think he still does a good job but this type of football is just not his forte
And with a few players excepted like JPP. I just don't see a lot of talent out there..
On paper sure, great players with history behind them.
Now this season….not so much. Ham and eggers. A four man rush that can't mount a push, just standing around. I can't blame that on the HC.
Maybe he does need to go, if he wants. But I think with the current cast any coach would have a problem,
Just me I know I am a minority..
Talk to front office guys, scouts and assistants and they all speak very highly of TC. His reputation is stellar. Only on BBI do people think he's done or the league has passed him by.
In the same vein, you see the training staff looked at as incompetent here, yet among their peers, they are considered one of, if not, the top organization.
You know what the secret is that most NFL insiders will tell you? 75% of the teams are average, fluid masses, with that group being able to go anywhere from 12-4 to 4-12 with just a couple of positive or negative twists and turns. The Giants are looked at as part of that group.
Fans think they are so close to the pulse of things because they watch the games, but so many really have no clue what perceptions are on the inside, what reputations are and etc.
They look at things in a vacuum. "The Giants are the only team who suck at 3rd down conversions" or something like that, while Washington had converted only ONE 3rd down of 3rd and 10 or more going into yesterday. It is a vacuum that seems to suck the sense out of so many comments.
Over the last 8 or so years we are the most successful team in the league and over the last 5 (4 of which we missed playoffs) we've still been a top 10 team over those last 5 years...Other than the 0-6 start we've never been bad since Eli's rookie season... Thats a long sustained run... People need to calm down the team we lost to on the road smacked the Superbowl champions in their house..(score looked a lot closer than the actual game) with out injuries we couldn't have done much better.. When the talent improves we'll beat dallas in dallas once again... After the last 2 drafts I am willing to give Reese another draft as well... Also there aren't any better coaches just sitting out there..
The offense is a work in progress; the OL lacks some talent, the system is new and the OC is a playcalling rookie in the NFL demonstrating some growing pains.
The team as a whole repeats fundamental mistakes and mental errors, which several players kept repeating last night in post-game. FIX IT! It's about focus, attention to detail, mental preparation on the little things and firing out of the locker room ready to play.