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Andre Williams.

TC : 10/19/2014 8:20 pm
OK, the Boys didn't play bad D and the Giants' O line isn't All Pro, so we got that out of the way. But having now watched enough of Andre Williams, I'm bothered by what I see. All too often he plays soft at the point of contact. And it has nothing to do with anything but his play, because when Jennings or Hillis are about to make contact, they will usually accelerate into the tackler. Andre most often will not. He will usually either slow, or stop, and attempt to do a spin. It worked once tonight for about 7 yards. The rest of the time it didn't.

He did the same thing in school. Is this something that can be coached out of him? Are the Giants even trying? Is this why the Giants are constantly talking about him being a load? To build up his confidence? Yeah, he will sometimes truck a DB, but far more often he is stopped wherever he first makes contact.

He's certainly built for short yardage, and is in great shape. I just can't understand why he has this problem?
Have no idea what u r  
Sec 103 : 10/19/2014 8:22 pm : link
watching...
Today  
lecky : 10/19/2014 8:24 pm : link
He never had a chance. For right now he is an adequate backup and Jennings was really doing everything well. Maybe we are realizing what a terrible loss Jennings is and the Giants are afraid to open up with anyone else in there.
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Mark from Jersey : 10/19/2014 8:25 pm : link
the spin, at least between the tackles, has to stop.

I think the problem with Williams  
81_Great_Dane : 10/19/2014 8:26 pm : link
is Beatty, Richburg, Walton, Jerry and Pugh.
Williams  
AcidTest : 10/19/2014 8:27 pm : link
is a tough back, but not a speedster like a Sproles. He needs a hole. If he gets it, he is as punishing a runner at the second level as any RB in the league. The OL isn't blocking well enough for him. Teams are also edging towards the line because no one takes our WRs or TEs seriously. That makes it even tougher to run.
RE: I think the problem with Williams  
SHO'NUFF : 10/19/2014 8:29 pm : link
In comment 11930205 81_Great_Dane said:
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is Beatty, Richburg, Walton, Jerry and Pugh.


This.

And TC basically giving away our game plan by announcing to the media his commitment to the run.
As long as he is no threat as a pass catcher, he's not a good #1 back.  
kinard : 10/19/2014 8:31 pm : link
... he doesn't get much help from offensive line, but you can't just keep banging him when the defense all know he's getting the ball...He seems good as a change of pace guy, but he can't be your every down back.

Loss of Jennings was a season killer.
Eric and bb56 were right  
Les in TO : 10/19/2014 8:32 pm : link
We are f$$$$$d without Jennings
RE: I think the problem with Williams  
jeff57 : 10/19/2014 8:33 pm : link
In comment 11930205 81_Great_Dane said:
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is Beatty, Richburg, Walton, Jerry and Pugh.


Especially Walton and Jerry.
RE: Have no idea what u r  
barens : 10/19/2014 9:30 pm : link
In comment 11930184 Sec 103 said:
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watching...


Really?
RE: I think the problem with Williams  
giantsfan227B : 10/19/2014 9:33 pm : link
In comment 11930205 81_Great_Dane said:
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is Beatty, Richburg, Walton, Jerry and Pugh.


Absolutely right. Jennings wouldn't be running for big yards behind that line either.
14 runs up  
SBlue46 : 10/19/2014 9:35 pm : link
Middle with eli tipping play...and 9 in box...
no blocks. ..
Jennings might not run for big yards, but he at least offers the  
Riggies : 10/19/2014 9:37 pm : link
threat of catching a pass and maybe getting something out of it after he does and he's a capable pass blocker.

Maybe having him as a check down option or out there blocking would at least separate Tom a little from his run-run-run obsession that cut their balls off today.
As for the comment about the D  
giantsfan227B : 10/19/2014 9:38 pm : link
are you watching the same game? No pash rush whatsoever. Romo sat back there forever picking them apart. The Giants allowed them to convert 9 of 14 3rd downs. 8 of those were for 8 yards or more. That is atrocious. They allowed a 90 plus yard drive for a TD. When they scored to make it 28-21 Dallas had the ball just under 5 minutes left in the game and the D let them basically run the clock out and kick a FG.

The D isn't playing well at all. Some of that is injuries no doubt. They have a zillion injuries. But they haven't been good all year against good teams. (Detroit, Arizona, Philly or Dallas). They are 0-4 in those games. Not all of it is there fault but they have not played well.
Dude.  
George : 10/19/2014 10:18 pm : link
He said 'the Boys' didn't play bad D. That would be the Dallas CowBOYS. They didn't play bad D.

And that's true. They didn't. or, um, er, they did. Whatever.

But the answer to this question is: the interior line got pushed around by an inferior DL today.

This is not about Andre Williams.
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