Good News: Odell Beckham Jr. looks very good..

holds the record for most TD catches by a rookie? I think he could break that record this year.

Zack Morris...i mean, Martin...and Aaron Donald...we could've had 'em both!!

stud!!! And I was not really demoralized today like last weekend!!!!

Not a wise idea to risk injury as a punt returner.Rember watching Sehorn go down

Eli isn't done.

The bad news is bigger.

Some of moves in the slot were looking like Cruz only he was faster making those.

He is the No 1 WR the team needs

than he was.

He didn't even get 40 yards receiving.

He's going to be a great player for us, health permitted.

He's going to be an absolute stud.

Was gonna create this thread myself.

its great we fed Hilis the ball as many times as ODB today.

He is a stud, so glad he is a Giant. Will be fun to watch the next few years

I am curious to see how he handles defenses playing him as more game tape is available. That's going to be the test for this system overall and Ben M.

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than he was. He didn't even get 40 yards receiving.

Asshole.

recceiver that has looked this good (besides Cruz).

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recceiver that has looked this good (besides Cruz).

Nicks was good. Had 800 yards of receiving on like 18 ypc and led the league in YAC.

Never

Hakeem Nicks

In comment 11930244 AnishPatel said:

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I am curious to see how he handles defenses playing him as more game tape is available. That's going to be the test for this system overall and Ben M.

I'd say we collectively failed that test last week in Philly...some better signs today

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recceiver that has looked this good (besides Cruz).

Cruz didn't look this good as a rookie. In his breakout season, he wasn't considered a rookie.

runs crisp routes, quick in and out of breaks, nice speed and elusiveness and nice hands. He will be a good receiver regardless of how defenses play him IMO.

We needed a playmaker on Offense and he looks like a good piece for the O.

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In comment 11930218 Giants2012 said: Quote: than he was. He didn't even get 40 yards receiving. Asshole.

Hey old fella. You're 3 hours past your bedtime. Take a nap

And our OL is mediocre.

Eli and ODB are two things that are NOT wrong with this team.

too.

One thing, he seems to get held every damn play. And yet, the refs don't call it

Even if Cruz was not hurt , ODB is the best receiver , talent wise, on the Giants. This is not to knock Cruz who is clearly a big play maker but to emphasize ODB"s tools. ODB is born to this game. He gets what he has to do very quickly and can make adjustments on the fly. Plus, his speed and his ability to instantaneously come in and out of his cuts, he has a natural affinity to catching gracefully the ball. He is also a natural punt returner who I think has the ability to not get hurt: has the instinct as to where the pressure is and where to move after catching the ball. I think Nicks was a great talent, but he was more like a comet who burnt out. ODB has staying power.

In comment 11930207 SHO'NUFF said:

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Zack Morris...i mean, Martin...and Aaron Donald...we could've had 'em both!!

And we should have taken either one over Beckham. He looks like a nice receiver. But given his height, he's unlikely to be that dominant #1 receiver. Martin's already playing on an all pro level, and Donald is coming on. You win on the lines.

if he wasn't on it.

Reuben Randle and Preston Parker would be the starting WRs.

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if he wasn't on it. Reuben Randle and Preston Parker would be the starting WRs.

You don't want to think of Martin on the OL instead of Jerry? I won't say receivers are a dime a dozen, but other than the top guys (Johnson, Jones, Green, Bryant, etc.), if a decent QB gets time, he can make most receivers look good.

YeaH BabY!!!

you're not getting a blue chip left tackle, and an impact WR has more value in the modern NFL than virtually any other OL position.

OB is a weapon, the total package.

and he is ours, stays healthy will own all the receiving team records. An absolute STUD

he'll likely be one of the best WR's Giants have ever had. Looking forward to his career here.

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In comment 11931001 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: if he wasn't on it. Reuben Randle and Preston Parker would be the starting WRs. You don't want to think of Martin on the OL instead of Jerry? I won't say receivers are a dime a dozen, but other than the top guys (Johnson, Jones, Green, Bryant, etc.), if a decent QB gets time, he can make most receivers look good.

We don't know that he won't be a top guy in his own right. It took Dez Bryant about 3 years to break out.

People here scoffed at me for saying that Odell Beckham Jr. was the 2nd best WR in this draft behind Watkins and that, among others, I would take Brandin Cooks ahead of Mike Evans. I know it is early but things are looking good

I don't think many Giants fans were paying attention to the draftees aside from Mike Evans and Eric Ebron.

Bryant is 3 inches taller and over 20 pounds heavier than Beckham. Except for Steve Smith, the dominant receivers in recent years have been over 6 feet. Doesn't mean Beckham won't be a good one. Maybe he can replicate Smith. But taking an under 6 foot receiver at 12 is a bit of a reach.

He might be the best player on this team. Skill wise he's already top 5 in my eyes. That may speak more to our team, but I'm liking this draft already. Williams will be fine if we develop a blocking scheme at some point.

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Bryant is 3 inches taller and over 20 pounds heavier than Beckham. Except for Steve Smith, the dominant receivers in recent years have been over 6 feet. Doesn't mean Beckham won't be a good one. Maybe he can replicate Smith. But taking an under 6 foot receiver at 12 is a bit of a reach.

Steve Smith is a freak of nature doing what he does at 5'7. But Beckham is 3-4 inches taller than Smith. It's true that he doesn't fit the prototype, but I'm not too worried that he's 5'11 and not 6'1.

Randle has all the physical size you want in a WR and we're still wondering what he does well.

draft pick. Thankfully we got a good playmaker.
I like what I see from him so far. It was funny the way he sort of "felt up" the 2 guys covering him just 2 seconds before his 2nd TD.

catches the ball at the apex, has huge hands, is quick and fast, runs great routes. I'll give up 2 inches in height

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catches the ball at the apex, has huge hands, is quick and fast, runs great routes. I'll give up 2 inches in height

Just compare him to Barden. Hell, he's just about as fast as DeSean Jackson but much stronger.

more touches. It's amazing that everyone sees the impact that this kid Beckham can make on a game, yet the ball only has come his way a just handful of times.

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and then upgrade that. That is how i view Beckham. He is everything he was advertised as. He is certainly NFL ready as a rookie. He runs crisp routes. He gets in and out of his breaks quickly and cleanly. He has amazing hands. He uses his body well to shield the ball from defenders and to draw penalties. He goes up after the ball. He is also a lot quicker than he looks.

he would've been the starter.

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he would've been the starter.

Which is terrifying and awful.

it'll be fun watching Odell Beckham progress. This kid is going to be a stud.

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he would've been the starter.

I hope this is a joke. I don't think this is the case at all and it is not based on hindsight whatsoever.

His name isn't O. Dell Beckham

It's Odell Beckham Jr - OBJ

So is 'Ole Dirty Beckham

I wont ever see it the same way as the obj folks. He will always be odb to me

one game, but to me he looks like Victor Cruz with better hands. I did not see the blazing speed. I saw quick, clean routes and making the catch seem easy.

I have seen a name (s) broken into its 2 syllables and double initialed, much like in the case of making o.d. out of odell.

Also, odb just sounds better than obj.

I have no idea why people give a shit what someone else calls an NFL player.

There was a bunch of other stupid on that thread. Calling him ODB in part because of Ol' Dirty Bastard, BBI making up the nickname ODB, etc.


What I'm surprised about with ODB more than anything is how much of a redzone target he's been. With his hands and speed you'd expect him to be more of a big play in the middle of the field type of guy. Not a 5'11 guy catching 3 TDs in 3 games. Very encouraging that he's getting open in the redzone.

Calling him ODB in part because of Ol' Dirty Bastard was considered a reach**

I dont care what anyone else calls him, but i will call him odb. The fact that it has a tie in to ole dirty bastard is just icing on the cake. It just sounds better

dropped to them? I am getting sick of reading about Zack Martin like we missed out on John Hannah( look him up ) I bet that Cowboy fans imaging Bryant and Beckham and are upset he didn't drop