Optimism! (the bye and the run game)

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I do agree that he should help things. A big offseason signing and a guy who really played well in KC, he'll help provide some push in the run game

that they all have the same body type or style of play. Big brushing type backs. We don't have any big time speed there.

I really miss seeing how Wilson would do in this system. Unwanted to see him catching the ball, turning and running upfield. It seems all our backs aren't going to beat you by hitting home runs. I would have loved to see Wilson develop. He was still so young too. Getting zero return on our investment for a first round pick hurts a lot.

However, according to Reese and the Giants, they were never counting on Wilson, so why draft Williams, resign Peyton Hillis and not bring in a shifty, speedy back?!?

Gaskins was a similar back as well. They could have drafted or signed a true change of pace back but didn't.

is coming at the right time, would have been nice to have a bye week this week instead, but this will really help OBJ nail down the offense. He has to be the receiving threat. Also gives time for DRC, Beason, Jennings, and other to get healthy. Giants better use this bye wisely and not fuck around or heads are probably going to roll at the end of the season.

our line can't get any worse :)
Williams was 4th round for a reason and would have been very useful behind Jennings as a power back when they knew we were going to run (3rd and short).
Beckham will be used more (and defended against which isn't bad for the other WRs) and our immature TEs are getting better and better under McA's schemes.
The D is stressed with injuries; hopefully they will be on the upswing.
Signed, Little Mary Sunshine.

then we can begin to get optimistic. If he plays like he did all summer, then it is same shit, different jersey.

Better. So the Giants maybe finish somewhere between 6-10 and 9-7. And 9-7 is a pipe dream at this point. Zero chance of the playoffs unless something miraculous happens.

It sucks that we lost but it's not impossible that we turn it around and win 10 games. 9 games is not a pipe dream, either.The Giants are not a bad football team. There is still time. Don't give up on this season yet.

I honestly believe we have the talent to pull that off. I don't think we have the coaching staff.

and be a contender, when you constantly make mistakes......Beatty jumping on 4th and one? Leaving a TE alone in the endzone? Our TE fumbles for the third time this season.......and Eli is still not comfortable, with the short pass....screens and passes to our RB's are almost non existent....Prince may have had an int, but he was owned today, by Bryant.....JW is useless......Beason can't stay on the field.....DRC can't either.....Demps has Romo dead to rights, and misses the sack......

Just too many mistakes, and not enough healthy players....a bye is not going to change anything......Maybe Schwartz for Jerry helps the OL.......But how long will Beason, DRC, Jennings, etc. be able to play the rest of the year? They will probably be week to week....

One thing this team could not afford is injuries, especially to key starters, because this team has no depth, just substitutes, or should I say bodies?

The OL gave Eli time and he wasn't sacked
He completed 21/33 for 250 yds, 3 TDs, 0 Ints, 116 QBR
Thats about as good as it gets. I'll take that every week.

In comment 11930695 Matt M. said:

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I honestly believe we have the talent to pull that off. I don't think we have the coaching staff.

We do have the coaching staff, Matt. We are coming out of the bi and going on a run. Bank on it. The Giants are figuring out who they are. We have talent.

In comment 11930546 AnishPatel said:

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that they all have the same body type or style of play. Big brushing type backs. We don't have any big time speed there. I really miss seeing how Wilson would do in this system. Unwanted to see him catching the ball, turning and running upfield. It seems all our backs aren't going to beat you by hitting home runs. I would have loved to see Wilson develop. He was still so young too. Getting zero return on our investment for a first round pick hurts a lot.

And in another thread I created a month ago, signing LaMichael James might soften that blow...he himself was a 2nd rounder in that same draft, just as fast, not as physical, but possibly a better receiver. I just don't know why we can't give him a try. No risk-High reward. But no, we don't need speed on the team.

To me, it's redundant to have Williams and Hillis. Slow and Slower. How's that for change of pace? To me, Hillis offers no value. Supposedly, he has ok hands, but couldn't bring in a few passes today. Very Brandon Jacobs-like hands.

Sproles was available in Free Agency? Naw. We don't need him. We don't like speed. We like team captains. Let's let our division rival have him in the perfect offense tailor-made for his skill set. He won't give us any problems.

to call the season, unlike last year where an 0-6 start was pretty fatal. we should get jennings, DRC, beason and schwartz back after the bye; if we can manage to stay relatively healthy at the thin positions, nothing is impossible. who knows what injury issues our opponents will have. san francisco and seattle are dangerous but not playing lights out like they did last year. i'd like to see philly and dallas again on our turf.

beat indy and we are 500.

but I do agree with the idea that a quicker back who is also a good receiver will be a very good fit. My wish list for the off season starts with a quicker running back/receiver, a good free safety to replace Will Hill and a good left guard so Richburg can move to center.

will play well in the second half and win 8-10 games. The problem is that 10-6 is very unlikely to make the playoffs.

has not addressed this. Coach breakers are those with athletic promise but somehow never quite perform to the level they seem to be able to in practice or elsewhere. like hosley, beatty, beason(injury deal), etc etc. You cant win with coach breakers, or with too many of them. good coaches, especially head coaches recognize them and weed them out. PArcells was great at that as is belicheck. TC ? not so much i think and that and the bad or bad luck drafts are why the giants are reminding me of the 60's and 70's.

Would anyone really have cheered if the Giants had taken De'Anthony Thomas in Round Four? Jerick McKinnon or Dri Archer in Round Three? Anyone seeking the next Chris Johnson or MJD - or even the next Darrren Sproles - found rather slim pickings.

Overall, the running game has set up the pass pretty well. Over the last five games, Eli has thrown eleven touchdown passes, and only one controversial interception that could just as easily have been a TD. (He has also gotten away with a couple of ugly throws that should have been picked.) Other than the Philly disaster, his jersey has remained mostly clean. Obviously, the balanced attack works much better with a healthy Jennings, for various reasons, and it's fair to question the commitment to the run in the past two games. It does serve a purpose though.

In comment 11930546 AnishPatel said:

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that they all have the same body type or style of play. Big brushing type backs. We don't have any big time speed there. I really miss seeing how Wilson would do in this system. Unwanted to see him catching the ball, turning and running upfield. It seems all our backs aren't going to beat you by hitting home runs. I would have loved to see Wilson develop. He was still so young too. Getting zero return on our investment for a first round pick hurts a lot.

Agree 100%. People here were saying Wilson wasn't going to be a big loss, because he never did anything given his playing time, but he appeared to be coming on and had that speed and elusiveness that defenses had to always honor. Additionally, he was great on KR and would have been an asset there too.

The season is over - the Giants aren't making the playoffs. They're not going to win the division, and if the playoffs started today the Eagles and the Lions would be the two wild card teams at 5-1 and 5-2. The Giants have already lost to both of them, so they're essentially 3 games behind both of them at this point.

Even if the Eagles, Lions or Cowboys have epic collapses in the second half of the season, the Giants would still have to fight off the Seahawks, 49ers, and Bears for the wildcard spot - and the Giants haven't shown anything close to having the ability to win 7 out of the last 9 to get to the 10 wins that would translate to a playoff berth.

You don't get absolutely destroyed by the Eagles, then show up the following week and play like they did yesterday and expect to be taken seriously as a contender. Next 4 games > Colts, Seahawks, 49ers, Cowboys. I'll keep watching and rooting for the team and hope to see progress, but its over for 2014.