NFT: Walking Dead s5 e2 discussion

Boring show but Bob is screwed.

then dont watch it

But I like that it looks like they are going to use *that* scene from the books with bob and the cannibals. Which is cool.

It was pretty funny watching that guy eat a hunk of leg like it was brisket.

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Last week eating Bob's leg. I thought Tyrese said he killed him?

In comment 11930550 Rory said:

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then dont watch it

Don't take it personal Rory. Love the show. This one was a snoozer for the first 45 minutes. But that's expected with terminus going down and a new chapter starting. Enjoy the rest of the season.

In comment 11930643 Ben in Tampa said:

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Last week eating Bob's leg. I thought Tyrese said he killed him?

I was gonna post on last weeks thread that I thought he was still alive. Tyreese kept saying he wasn't going to kill him and he kept Rick from going inside to look later.

wandering around in the dark anyway? You'd think that by now they'd know better than to do that.

How jumping in a water hole full of zombies is the best plan they could have came up with...

Which was why he was outside crying knowing he was going to die and turn

Its called a spear.

In comment 11930779 ODBeast said:

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Which was why he was outside crying knowing he was going to die and turn

Yup and somehow them eating him will spell their doom due to the tainted food

In comment 11930779 ODBeast said:

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Which was why he was outside crying knowing he was going to die and turn

I wonder if they inadvertently saved him.

The only freaking way they could die in that scenario is to get bit by a walking underwater so what the fuck do they do? Send 3 of the fuckers down under

Terrible dialog, ham fisted story telling, head scratching decisions by the characters.

But the last five mins is what makes the show tick.

Couple of thoughts:

Did they say why they couldn't just stand above the hole and take out the zombies from there?

I also thought he got bit and that's why he was outside crying (possibly the reason for the dumb decision above)

Even if he was bit, you would think canibals would know to check their meat for bites.

Rick meant what he said and will be killing them.

from tainted meat when everyone has the disease already anyway?

U mean the same smart people that thought lassoing a 500 pound zombie with a rope and pulling it up and the 150 pound glen at the same time to drink water in a well that the zombie and had been brewing in forever?

Not shocked that they come up with that great plan last night either.

I enjoy the show but I say it all the time it's hit or miss. Premiere was a hit, last night a miss. Therefore I find it to be overrated and always felt the same about the comic. Not a hater, just think it's overhyped that's all.

put spoilers into the The Talking Dead but that guy who we found out did not die sort of forced one. I was wondering why he was not in the In memo memoriam segment last week.

Bob didn't even feel his future get cut out right from underneath him.

Afraid of his own shadow somehow holes up - without any weapons - in a tiny church for 2+ years.

In comment 11930933 Chris in Philly said:

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from tainted meat when everyone has the disease already anyway?

In the Walking Dead zombie bites don't kill you b/c of the zombie virus. They kill you b/c you just got bit by something that has a rotting, festering, bacteria filled mouth. So its possible that the other bacteria/germs could kill them all.

But jumping into the zombie swimming pool was a bit much. Spears (there were clothes on racks in the building, so likely poles) would have cleaned up most of the zombies. Plus you never know what is under the water.

In comment 11931051 Modus Operandi said:

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Afraid of his own shadow somehow holes up - without any weapons - in a tiny church for 2+ years.

That was the theme of most of the episode

People who don't bother locking cell doors at night, collect a horde of walkers in barn, jump into zombie infested wells, etc.

The laziness of the writing has gotten progressively dunderriffic.

But agree with MO - the need to force drama in the most contrived ways imaginably is really grating. It's just lazy writing.

Even simpler, couldn't Daryl have just shot them with his crossbow from above, drop down and collect the arrows and cans?

guards, Bob wanders off on his with his pistol.

WW Z - book - underwater Zombies are a real threat, mothers don't let their children swim in lakes or even play near water.

In comment 11931056 Scyber said:

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In comment 11930933 Chris in Philly said: Quote: from tainted meat when everyone has the disease already anyway? In the Walking Dead zombie bites don't kill you b/c of the zombie virus. They kill you b/c you just got bit by something that has a rotting, festering, bacteria filled mouth. So its possible that the other bacteria/germs could kill them all.

No, they die because they have their arteries torn from their bodies. And then they turn. And if people die from getting shot, they turn. Because everyone has the disease.

You guys are way overthinking this one, I think...

do, in some instances...

live in exchange for live meat.

In comment 11931186 Chris in Philly said:

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In comment 11931056 Scyber said: Quote: In comment 11930933 Chris in Philly said: Quote: from tainted meat when everyone has the disease already anyway? In the Walking Dead zombie bites don't kill you b/c of the zombie virus. They kill you b/c you just got bit by something that has a rotting, festering, bacteria filled mouth. So its possible that the other bacteria/germs could kill them all. No, they die because they have their arteries torn from their bodies. And then they turn. And if people die from getting shot, they turn. Because everyone has the disease. You guys are way overthinking this one, I think...

I'm pretty sure they also die from some sort of infection. in season one especially they hammered home the point that a scratch or bite causes a very high fever and eventually death.

btw I'm still on season 4 so any I'm not responsible information learned since the governer forced them out of the prison.

btw I'm still on season 4 so I'm not responsible for any information learned since the governer forced them out of the prison.

In comment 11930779 ODBeast said:

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Which was why he was outside crying knowing he was going to die and turn

Agree Something is off. Like when he asked for that last kiss.

"secret" from the CDC guy was that everyone has it? Which they hammered home when Shane turned? If they now go back and say that they can die from "infected" meat or water, then that's lazy even for them.

But don't worry. I'm sure Ben will let us know exactly what happens in the comics so we won't have to wonder for long...

not whatever germs/bacteria is living under the fingernails and in the mouths of said zombies.

But you're initial point is right. We are wayyyy over thinking a zombie show.

and tainted water

Its not a stretch to think the same is true in the zombie apocalypse.

In comment 11931322 Blue Baller said:

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and tainted water Its not a stretch to think the same is true in the zombie apocalypse.

It's not a very cinematic plot device to use...

But the virus only shows symptoms after someone dies. We know zombie bites kill people but it doesn't have to be the same virus. Zombie bites can kill people for some other reason - maybe some sort of poison or just plain filth and once the person dies from the bite, the zombie virus they had all along kicks in.

So no, cannibals don't necessarily have to turn into zombies from eating human (even tainted) flesh because that won't necessarily kill them. However, if Bob's been bitten, that's different because he doesn't just have the regular virus, he's also got whatever is in the zombie bite.

People throughout the show have been covering themselves in zombie guts, had zombie blood spill on them and splashed around in nasty zombie-infested waters without it killing them, so I don't think eating some folks should turn people into zombies.

I doubt they go with the tainted meat angle

There still has to be some reason for the inexplicable head down into the flooded basement scene and the go outside by myself for a cry scene...or maybe I'm just giving the writers too much credit.

I dunno what the what the deal is with the bites. My opinion has always been everyone has the virus so you turn when you die, but the bite is also full of infection that kills you rapidly.

Remember a few seasons ago Rick hacked off Hershel's leg after he got but in the ankle to stop the spread. I'm not sure it's ever actually spelled out in black and white.

In comment 11931511 Ben in Tampa said:

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I dunno what the what the deal is with the bites. My opinion has always been everyone has the virus so you turn when you die, but the bite is also full of infection that kills you rapidly. Remember a few seasons ago Rick hacked off Hershel's leg after he got but in the ankle to stop the spread. I'm not sure it's ever actually spelled out in black and white.

Fuck you?

It has been well established on the show that it is not the physical trauma that causes death, but rather that the bite is from a walker. This separate from the walker mauling that causes instant death through trauma,as you posited, which is also true.

In comment 11930808 ODBeast said:

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The only freaking way they could die in that scenario is to get bit by a walking underwater so what the fuck do they do? Send 3 of the fuckers down under

Just more evidence that these characters would stand zero chance of living long in a real apocalypse. They are complete freakin' morons.

When they were standing above the zombies, what in the fucking world made them think..."Let's give up our advantage since they are too stupid to climb and will walk right to us for us to kill...and jump down there with them. I mean...there might be some of them under water where we can't see them and we might get bitten and die...but fuck it. Standing here and stabbing them in the head with a long spear is too easy. Oh...and once we get down there...don't kill them all right away...knock some of them down under water so that we can't see them. We'll just forget they are down there and let someone get pulled under water and eaten alive by a zombie."

Also...how are these zombies so strong?

In comment 11930942 ligmen said:

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U mean the same smart people that thought lassoing a 500 pound zombie with a rope and pulling it up and the 150 pound glen at the same time to drink water in a well that the zombie and had been brewing in forever? Not shocked that they come up with that great plan last night either. I enjoy the show but I say it all the time it's hit or miss. Premiere was a hit, last night a miss. Therefore I find it to be overrated and always felt the same about the comic. Not a hater, just think it's overhyped that's all.

There were certainly some stupid head scratcher moments in the premiere as well. The baseball bat guy destroys 4 nameless victims and right when he gets to a main character, out of the blue, someone stops him to ask about how many rounds they fired. Really? They couldn't think of a better way to save their main characters? And then Carol's escape plan..good lord...

In comment 11930779 ODBeast said:

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Which was why he was outside crying knowing he was going to die and turn

I think so too, which would mean they are eating infected meat.

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That was a fun way to end the episode.

Bob had been at Terminus at one time. Garreth talked to him like he knew him before or there was history.

about how Daryl somehow knew Beth was in that car?

pull away with bet in it at the end of last season

missed that. Thanks.

and with the amount of Bob scenes, I was kind of expecting him to die at the end. So I'm not shocked about what happened, although the cannibal part of it was a cool twist.

The priest is an interesting character. The fact that he's not batshit crazy tells me that he has had contact with other people recently. Remember how fucked up Morgan was when he was left alone. Maybe praying to God has helped the priest remain sane, but I'm pretty sure he has "associates" we'll be meeting shortly. The scratch marks and the message that Carl showed Rick will end up meaning something.

There needs to be a thinning of the herd this season. Just too many people in that group right now.

I'm guessing the priest was a child abuser and the warnings on the church were carved before the zombie apocalypse began. "You'll pay for what you have done."

Or he gave really boring sermons, one or the other.

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