Going into yesterday, had you polled the board and asked them if we were going to win, you'd get an overwhelming majority saying we weren't.
Had you told people we were going into the half tied, on the road against a tough division opponent, down a number of key players - we'd probably be pretty happy.
Had you told those same people that we had the ball in the 4th quarter with an opportunity to tie - they'd probably be ecstatic.
By the end of the game - we were a talentless roster coached by a bunch of blind people, the whole operation run by an owner who couldn't find his ass with two hands and a map.
To me, if you had the right expectations for yesterday, you can only be frustrated by two things - that injuries have once again robbed us of a few key players, and that with a few plays different in yesterday's game, we could've won.
I try to have one or two moments a day like that. I should really try to use them on actual work at some point.
I don't think yesterday was an example of shooting themselves in the foot. I think it was a better team pulling it out at home.
Against Philly? Without a doubt. Yesterday - Donnell certainly didn't help matters (and he took full responsibility) with his first fumble, and at times the defense gambled with some different looks that didn't get them anywhere, but we lost a close game to a team that has only lost once.
Our defense wasn't playing our offense though, they were playing Dallas' offense. Look at the scoreboard, factor in that we gave them the ball twice in our own territory, and we took the ball and gave it to the offense on the 30 (which lead to one score), and the defense's effort doesn't look unimpressive. Might not have been a great game, but wasn't the disaster some people are making it out to be.
40 points...we had the wrs....tried to run more
and use clock....if I'm eli...I wish I were traded
OTOH, there is zero excuse for the team to be as badly prepared and as consistently lacking in even a semblance of discipline as this team was/is.
Just because you may have expected them to lose, doesn't make a loss acceptable, that's not how humans work.
Just because you may have expected them to lose, doesn't make a loss acceptable, that's not how humans work.
Nobody said anything about not holding people accountable - just that it's not 'fire sale' time. The roster is not without talent. The coaches are not a bunch of idiots. It's not a hopeless situation - it's one that still requires changes/moves in order to get it to the next level, though.
running the ball 3 times to start the game... after last week... disgusting.
running constantly on 1st and 2nd down... with guys who are 1 trick or zero trick ponies... awful....
no shots downfield with a special player like ODB... terrible.
penalties that are reckless- terrible
Not playing Moore... frustrating.... not benching demps... annoying...
I don't mind the loss... I mind the playing not to lose type of team they have been for 2 weeks... play to win good lord... be aggressive and assertive and your team likely responds better.
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"fire" anybody guy and I'm still not, but regardless of your expectations coming in I think it's perfectly fine to see how the team performed in that game and realizing they had a legit chance to win and holding people responsible and accountable for the loss
Just because you may have expected them to lose, doesn't make a loss acceptable, that's not how humans work.
Nobody said anything about not holding people accountable - just that it's not 'fire sale' time. The roster is not without talent. The coaches are not a bunch of idiots. It's not a hopeless situation - it's one that still requires changes/moves in order to get it to the next level, though.
Agree completely. Just saying even though many of us expected to lose or at least felt it was a legit possibility, once you have watched the game feeling like you had a legit shot at winning were things done differently is frustrating. even more frustrating is the sense that those same things might be repeated the next game.
Definitely not suggesting fire sale time. Just that expectations change when you see results.
Look at 2007. Most of the fans probably expected the worst after the 2006 ending and the 2007 beginning, but once the team started reeling off all those road wins the expectations changed with it. which is why December was so frustrating then such relief.
Then you look at how they lost...bad penalties to stall drives, fumbles, defensive breakdowns, an an insistence on calling a run after run with the same poor effects. I truly think a better called game on offense would have overcome all the other issues and the Giants win that one. We played into the Cowboys hands.
Had we had Jennings yesterday, we would have won. Period..His loss really fucked us(I was laughed at when I made this statement following his injury), but we regroup, get Schwartz back, hopefully Beason benefits with two weeks of rest so there's some semblence of what he can be...
We play a vulnerable and far from strong SF team whom we trail by a game..Seattle is proving extemely beatable albeit almost unbeatable at home where we venture to..We're one game back in the loss column..Hoping Az wins the division..Detroit is Detroit and I expect to pass them..One of Philly or Dallas are a key injury away from falling back to the pack..
Nothing's certain, except there are 9 games to go and we need to get healthier and FAST...The only games we could not have won even with everyone healthy involved Detroit and Philly..We play Detroit now we win...Not Philly yet without a threatening run game..
But again, the Jennings injury was equivalent to Dallas losing Murray(Not claiming RJ is better, but team impact is/would be the same)..
Yes, the Giants scored to make it 28-21, but then like last year, the defense could not stop the Cowboys when they had to....
Fact is, the Giants are not as bad as last year....they will be in games in the fourth quarter....but they are not a team that can control the fourth quarter, to be winners....that doesn't happen overnight.....the Giants still have a way to go.....