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Tark10 : 10/20/2014 9:30 am
JPP played like a crazed animal two years ago. All that did was get him hurt because he gave it 110%. It appears to me that he has "dialed it back" to prevent any substantial risk of further injury. If this is the "new" JPP, I hope they let him walk at the end of the year. The dude can still be a presence on the field, but he seems to be a shell of his former self. I'd like some comments on this observation.
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JPP  
bignygfan : 10/20/2014 2:32 pm : link
was a stud yesterday.

Give me that for 16 games and then give him his money.
He got shut down in Philly against one of the top LT's in the game  
David in LA : 10/20/2014 2:54 pm : link
I thought he rebounded nicely against Tyron Smith, who is right up there with Peters. I won't discount that there's a bit of a buyer beware with him since it is his contract year, but the timing of this thread is flat out retarded. He's been a monster against the run all season.
Timing of this thread could not be worse.  
Ace718 : 10/20/2014 2:56 pm : link
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How in the world  
KWALL : 10/20/2014 2:57 pm : link
do you watch that game yesterday and have any kind of knock on JPP?

He was outstanding in that game against an elite LT. Several impact plays vs pass and run.

Why should (and will) they resign JPP?

1. He's only 25!

2. He is one of the best front 7 run defenders in the NFL. He's a beast in this part of the game. For an example of this watch how he handled Smith on runs to his side. And then watch the first 2 plays of the last DAL series. Nobody is better vs the run at his position.

3. He's has tools to be a top pass rusher for many more years and these guys are not easy to find. The moves yesterday where he dips inside and then a strong outside rush we don't see enough of. He needs to do this a lot more because that is a very impressive move.

He has not developed new moves. At times he seems to stop the pass rush and look to knock down a pass way to early in the play. I'd like this to change and the coaches to answer for this.

I like they had him standing up on the RT yesterday. Lets see more of this. And move him inside over the C/G on occasion for a matchup advantage. He has excellent lateral quickness and length to make a strong inside pass rush.

JPP has stepped up this year. Letting him walk would be a huge mistake. They need to sign him and build around him.

if we had a competent DE  
spike : 10/20/2014 3:12 pm : link
opposite JPP, you will see a big difference.

Right now defense is keying on him , since Kiwi is a shadow of his former average self.
I don't think you break the bank for him, but  
Simms11 : 10/20/2014 3:26 pm : link
he is still one of the better 4-3 DES in the league. He's still young and very athletic. Who would you replace him with? With that said, he needs help on the line. There needs to be a better rush from the other side too. Moore has been ok, but also still a work in progreys and Kiwi is not the same player he was years ago. He's a big piece of this defense, but hasn't been able to take over games like Watt.
Explain to me again,  
Doomster : 10/20/2014 5:33 pm : link
how good Prince played yesterday?
RE: Explain to me again,  
HomerJones45 : 10/20/2014 6:09 pm : link
In comment 11932539 Doomster said:
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how good Prince played yesterday?
Exactly. Bryant abused him. JPP played well, but we desperately need Prince???
...  
christian : 10/20/2014 7:39 pm : link
Another year, another bitchfest against our good players. This is just like when the same usual suspects wanted Strahan to retire before 2007, didn't want to sign Jacobs, didn't want to make be active in resigning Bennett.
RE: he was the only defender with a pulse  
Great White Ghost : 10/20/2014 9:37 pm : link
In comment 11931109 hitdog42 said:
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yesterday-
wtf game were you watching?
we got no DT push... no LDE push... and he still got the only pressure and held up his end in terms of the run game.
he also got held all game.
I have no idea what you expect from him when the rest of the DL is horrible.

now I would NOT give him a huge contract but I would certainly view him as our best defender --- which is not something you just discard given how talent empty our squad is.
you're out of your mind. Hankins played a much better game.
I started this thread because..  
Tark10 : 10/21/2014 8:32 am : link
I wanted to hear from you guys. I agree JPP isn't what he was, but the comments regarding who and what is playing next to him are very valid as well. I'd like to see him resigned to a reasonable contract. I don't believe this will happen because there is always some team willing to take a chance and overpay for a guy. I wasn't basing my comments on one game. Jenkins may be out for a couple of weeks. Lets see who takes his place. AND why didn't Fewell move JPP around the line to find a soft spot? Thanks for the feedback.
JPP's PFF grade  
jeff57 : 10/21/2014 10:33 am : link
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PFF had Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul with a +7.9 grade.

On their grading system, that's an off-the-charts mark. This is the second time this season Pierre-Paul has posted a grade in that range. He received a +9.1 in the Giants' Week 5 win over Atlanta and is the second-ranked 4-3 defensive end this season.


What is "reasonable"?  
KWALL : 10/21/2014 12:09 pm : link
JPP is a top 5 4-3 DE in the entire NFL and he's 25. He is not signing for "reasonable".

He's top 5 at his position with upside. Teams will line up to sign him if he keeps playing like he has all year.

Keep in mind, he was injured. He's healthier now. If the injury is not an issue the Giants would be crazy not to sign him for 5 more years.
About Prince  
KWALL : 10/21/2014 12:11 pm : link
I thought he played a pretty good game. On a couple of the crucial receptions he had excellent coverage. Romo made several accurate throws on these plays and Bryant made some tough catches.

JPP did save 7 points when Bryant beat Prince deep. He hit Romo. If he doesn't that's a TD.
JPP just looked damn  
area junc : 10/21/2014 12:15 pm : link
good against the best left tackle in the NFL. smith takes people out of games and last week was the first Offensive Linemen in 10 years to win an Offensive Player of the Week. jpp 2 sacks and ate his lunch in the run game
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