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is it time for Michael Cox to get a look at RB?

giantfanboy : 10/20/2014 10:39 am
the one bright spot yesterday was the return game
Michael Cox had 89 yards returning yesterday on 3 returns! a
29 average .

Cox seems to have something that our other RBs don't have
which is speed

why not let the kid get into the mix of RB?



No  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2014 10:40 am : link
he's not good. He's insurance in case of another injury.
Yes,  
AcidTest : 10/20/2014 10:42 am : link
for the reason you mentioned: speed. He's the only one who has any. But Coughlin probably doesn't trust him in pass protection, so we'll only see in KO returns, not at RB.
Most of that was on one good return.  
Matt M. : 10/20/2014 10:43 am : link
Unless he has had a miraculous improvement, his skills at RB leave a little to be desired.
Eh, he's essentially fourth string and for a few reasons  
JonC : 10/20/2014 10:44 am : link
The lines are both getting whipped weekly, it figures to be difficult to overcome it this season.
Yes, that is the answer. With his speed he can hit  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2014 10:44 am : link
the collapsed pile for a 1 yard loss instead of a 3 yard loss.
RE: No  
Tuckrule : 10/20/2014 10:58 am : link
In comment 11931327 pjcas18 said:
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he's not good. He's insurance in case of another injury.


Comical. Let me ask you what you base that on. His 10 carries behind a crap line? Or his kick returning ability makes you believe me can't be a running back. Please clarify this confusion.
No  
djstat : 10/20/2014 10:58 am : link
The o-line needs to play better
Michael Cox  
81_Great_Dane : 10/20/2014 11:10 am : link
is as capable as any other running back on the roster of being stopped in the backfield by D-lineman who went through the middle of the Giants O-line like it wasn't there.
RE: No  
mrvax : 10/20/2014 11:13 am : link
In comment 11931397 djstat said:
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The o-line needs to play better


This. They have to, HAVE TO be able to open some holes for our RBs. I don't know if the issue is strength, speed or what but they aren't getting the run blocking done.

Guys like Williams will kill you if you give them a little hole to get started. Jennings only needed a crease because his 0-60 time was very fast.
RB  
giantfanboy : 10/20/2014 11:19 am : link
demarcos murray torched us yesterday
but there were many plays where he was also dropped for no gain
the difference is murray is fast and has great vision

actually i think williams lacks vision there were some plays where he ran right into defensive players at the line where a cut back might have gained him more yards

cox looked very good on returns he ran fast and picked great lanes .

I just think he might be a change of pace type back who could open up the running game a bit


Cox is a good athlete  
LPete : 10/20/2014 11:20 am : link
But good athlete doesn't equate to being a good running back.
I'd give him a chance  
Giants4246 : 10/20/2014 11:23 am : link
He's been on the roster for a few years, never plays and seems to have excellent speed. How the fuck is the coaching staff going to know what they have in this kid if they dont give him a legit shot? Give him 15+ carries and see what he can do. Can't be any worse than watching williams get stonewalled at the line of scrimmage on every run play.
He can't be any worse than Hillis, can he?  
jcn56 : 10/20/2014 11:23 am : link
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Jennings or Williams, but at this point the only thing Hillis is good for is being a tackling dummy.
RE: RE: No  
pjcas18 : 10/20/2014 11:26 am : link
In comment 11931392 Tuckrule said:
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In comment 11931327 pjcas18 said:


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he's not good. He's insurance in case of another injury.



Comical. Let me ask you what you base that on. His 10 carries behind a crap line? Or his kick returning ability makes you believe me can't be a running back. Please clarify this confusion.


Not sure what's comical. I base it on my own eyes and evaluation from two pre-seasons, multiple regular season games last year including one start and the fact the Giants cut him this year and even with the dearth of running back quality in the NFL no one bothered to snag him even for their own PS. Not to mention their own lack of depth knowing already there was no Wilson they cut Cox with just Jennings, Williams, and Hillis as viable RB options. Shows you how much they value him.

He is the worst of all KR options the Giants have and the worst of all RB options, including Peyton Hillis.

His 22 carries for 44 yards last year are pretty compelling evidence he must be the answer at RB. Watching him return kicks last year was painful. I prayed for touchbacks so I didn't need to see him tackled at the 17 yard line every return.

Sure, he's the saviour. Just give him the ball coach.



andre williams  
Fish : 10/20/2014 11:28 am : link
Has zero clue where to run the ball. The game is too fast for the rookie. Cox has a year under his belt. He would do better but behind this oline, how much better?

Also knowing we can't run makes everything harder on us. No respect for our run game.
If Jennings can't play, give him a look.  
Ira : 10/20/2014 11:28 am : link
It's not like we have Jim Brown running the ball for us. MC might surprise is.
the key here  
Fish : 10/20/2014 11:31 am : link
Is the oline last season and this season. How can you judge Cox based on that oline last year?
OL did not open any holes  
oipolloi : 10/20/2014 12:17 pm : link
There were a few plays where a more experienced runner might have cut back away from his blockers and picked up so e extra yards.

But overall, there was not much room to run. Cowboys were stacking the box and in the backfield all day
Hillis  
AcidTest : 10/20/2014 12:26 pm : link
runs like a cement truck. Good ST guy and pass blocker, but you don't want to hand him the ball, unless you're running out the clock with a big lead.
RE: Hillis  
Victor in CT : 10/20/2014 1:06 pm : link
In comment 11931635 AcidTest said:
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runs like a cement truck. Good ST guy and pass blocker, but you don't want to hand him the ball, unless you're running out the clock with a big lead.


A somewhat contradictory statement. If he can run out the clock that means he can get 10 yards per every 3 downs minimum. If he can do that, why do you think he can't run the ball during the rest of the game? He was 6-29 yesterday.
I think Cox can play  
bc4life : 10/20/2014 1:16 pm : link
in this league. Might be better suited to this offense than Williams.

Remember, Cox during pre-season never had opportunity to have 1s blocking for him. And, you get better by playing.
personally  
bc4life : 10/20/2014 1:18 pm : link
I think blocking is their problem. Lots of pressure on runs right in the middle of the line
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