into coverage in the 1st quarter on a 3rd and 6 also. I just don't see the purpose of dropping a DL into coverage. I think it was the same play they pulled Hankins out and Aikman commented that Hankins led the team in sacks...
I noticed the same thing on escobar pass...I'm watching #99 backing into coverage and saying to myself this is not going to end well and why does this coach continue to do this crap?!?!
Antonio Pierce said that was Beason's coverage, but if you watch the play Hosley covers no one and I don't think he even moves 4 feet from where he lined up and Rolle just yells and gestures at Beason instead of picking up Escobar.
The only time Fewell blitzed was on obvious run downs. It was obvious the front 4 wasn't getting pressure, so as opposed to supporting a beat up secondary on pass downs, he drops lineman and shitty coverage linebackers into coverage. How is that not being called out by Coughlin? When they self scout, this needs to be glaring.
there was zero talent, but this team has talent enough to compete on defense. The new emphasis on the secondary, forcing the QB into pressure situations through coverage instead of a bull rush is impossible to achieve when they use the same old playbook that yielded two of the worst seasons in recent history. The team is built to compete in the new, more offensive minded NFL but the defense they're showing isn't utilizing the talent. They offer up ten+ yard coverage cushions in short yardage situations and they drop 300lb run stoppers/pass rushers into coverage against TEs.
It's painful to watch.
RE: Fewell's MO is to drop as many in coverage as possible
when we're undermanned. I think its coaching scared and just about the WORST way to defend Romo.
I think Perry is a good DC with flaws... but his flaws are VERY annoying.
We don't have guys to cover the likes of Witten, Escobar, or Bryant right now. Yeah it is a weak or soft strategy but on the few blitzes called I think we can all see why Fewell often calls it that way. If I am Romo, anytime I even think there is a possibility of a blitz I am throwing it to Bryant or Witten as soon as possible.
No, Hosley really sucks. Reese has to be the only one surprised by it.
Here is an excerpt from the Bleacher Report review of Hosley. Full link attached also:
"Hosley has good cover skills and instincts but is awful in terms of open field tackling. He needs to work on that to crack the starting lineup for the Giants. One thing that could have provoked this pick for Jerry Reese is Hosley returned punts and played special teams at Virginia Tech.
Hosley does have a lot of upside, but I cannot fathom how Reese passed on Bobby Massie. Obviously he knows what he's doing, but don't the Giants have enough corners?
Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Prince Amukamara, Antwaun Molden, Bruce Johnson, Michael Coe, Justin Tryon and now Hosley are all corners on the Giants' roster. The top four seemed to be enough for what Perry Fewell wants to do.
The right tackle position is far from as certain. At this point we have no idea who the offensive line starters will be. This could turn out to be a great pick, but I do not like who we passed up" Bleacher Report Giants Round 3 2012 - ( New Window )
going on more than two years. For the most part, he is content rushing just 4, as if he has it stuck in his head this is still a DL with Osi and Tuck anchoring it. Then, he takes it further and loves to drop DL in coverage. it's usually a DE, which isn't the worst if you do it once in a while. But, he does it with regularity and now adds DTs to the mix. His blitzes rarely hit home from lack of timing and design. His stunts rarely hit home. His DEs crash hard down the line often, leaving the edge exposed to quick tosses and cutbacks. His schemes generate no pressure, which combined with a soft zone allows a decent QB the time to sit there and wait for a WR or TE to find a spot in the zone to just sit in uncontested. He rarely presses at the LOS. Their secondary consistently has miscommunications leading to big gains for years, regardless of the personnel. Really, what is redeeming about his body of work? Even in 2011, they were a bad defense who decided to get some pressure down the stretch.
Why would Prince tell CHANDLER MOTHERFUCKIN' FENNER to take Dez while he took COLE FUCKIN' Beasley? Why are the Giants constantly allowing massive mismatches when the opponent's star WR lines up in the slot? Why aren't they double teaming the opponent's best WR? Why don't guys know who they're supposed to cover on plays? Why is Quentin Demps playing so much?
Been calling for his head for two years. He's obviously an idiot.
What I don't understand is why TC and the front office haven't come to this glaringly obvious conclusion. Seriously, when you look at Fewell time with the Giants, what is his signature on the defense? Turnovers? I don't think so. Is it disguising exotic blitzes? Tight man coverage? Smash mouth bad ass bruising hits? No, none of these things describes Fewell's defense. Fewell defenses have always had one trait - they fail to come up with the big when they need a big play. Not to say they've never gotten a big play - they've had a few - but the defense can't get off the field when they must get off the field.
Someone not covering someone, in a Fewell defense?
up to blitz. Go with 3 DT's and one rush end with the hand down (JPP) and stand Ayers, Kiwi and Moore up in the LB spots with a blitz. There is enough speed, height and pass rush ability there to get home or at minimum disrupt what's going on. It's the consistent, conventional cover 2 scheme he won't change up that's killing this team.
Who drops DL into coverage does not belong in this league. Period. Fewell is horrible, plain & simple.
Venting over... FK!
Agreed, especially on a 3rd and long. We get jailbreaks thrown at us on 3rd downs but when we have a team in 3rd down we rush 3 and drop d-linemen into coverage. Doesn't make a lick of fucking sense.
Every team drops linemen into short coverage from time to time to confuse the qb, confuse the protection, put a big body in short throwing lanes. Sometimes it is done in combo with blitzes sometimes not but every team utilizes it and Dallas did yesterday also.
The issue was having Fenner on Bryant. We couldn't cover Bryant with the Prince, the PS player had no hope, and Romo went right after him. I doubt that having Fenner cover Bryant was by design.
Just awful. How can the Giants win when the defense can't get off the field?
They can't, hence the reason they're 3-4 and staring at a 7-9 season.
The Cowboys were a good offense last year and are even better than last year. They have Witten, Escobar, Williams, Bryant and Murray with Romo throwing the ball. Did you think they were going 1-14 on third down?
around here when a statement saying any DC dropping lineman in coverage does not belong in the league. That would be every goddam DC, in league. you can't blitz Romo or pressure him when you have proven that you have linebackers that cant cover the TE and your best corner cannot cover their best receiver 1 on 1. The cowboys would of scored 2 more touch downs without the zones, you guys are complaining about.
on Dez Bryant? lol. I mean come on now. If I am the Dallas coaches upstairs I am laughing. Some slapdick player just signed on my X who is a beast? I have zero faith in that defense. Hosley having a miscommunication. Thank god for a bye week. But I am not looking forward to seeing Andrew Luck against our defense.
On that play where Romo quickly passed to Bryant on his left who was one on one with Prince, and Giants got burned there so it seems whether or not they blitz, there is trouble. Witten wide open at times.
I don't understand why when DEs are rushing the passer that they don't put their hands up at least disrupt the QBs vision a little.
It was an especially bad Defensive call given that
deja vu' all over again
Why in the world you'd want Romo to sit back comfortably in the pocket and wait for a receiver to inevitably find open space I'll never know.
And Fenner looked silly out there.
Very frustrating, and you wonder what is the trend/strategy they are looking at.
I see that, too... and our LBs usually have about a half second delay after the snap when they blitz
Hosley was dreaming about smoking a joint after the play is over. Trel Can't blame him.
I wouldn't say that Holsey wasn't covering anyone on that play.
It looked like Beason or Holsey screwed up, but I'm not sure who. Aikman thought Holsey; Pierce thought Beason.
Whatever, it was another busted coverage in a big game.
I think Perry is a good DC with flaws... but his flaws are VERY annoying.
Demps blitzed but whiffed on Romo. I saw Beason blitz but didn't get close.
It's painful to watch.
I think Perry is a good DC with flaws... but his flaws are VERY annoying.
We don't have guys to cover the likes of Witten, Escobar, or Bryant right now. Yeah it is a weak or soft strategy but on the few blitzes called I think we can all see why Fewell often calls it that way. If I am Romo, anytime I even think there is a possibility of a blitz I am throwing it to Bryant or Witten as soon as possible.
"Hosley has good cover skills and instincts but is awful in terms of open field tackling. He needs to work on that to crack the starting lineup for the Giants. One thing that could have provoked this pick for Jerry Reese is Hosley returned punts and played special teams at Virginia Tech.
Hosley does have a lot of upside, but I cannot fathom how Reese passed on Bobby Massie. Obviously he knows what he's doing, but don't the Giants have enough corners?
Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Prince Amukamara, Antwaun Molden, Bruce Johnson, Michael Coe, Justin Tryon and now Hosley are all corners on the Giants' roster. The top four seemed to be enough for what Perry Fewell wants to do.
The right tackle position is far from as certain. At this point we have no idea who the offensive line starters will be. This could turn out to be a great pick, but I do not like who we passed up"
Bleacher Report Giants Round 3 2012 - ( New Window )
Venting over... FK!
Pierce said cover 2, which is what the Giants were in, means the LB gets and stays with the TE.
fast....athletic. ...he played zone
and stood there and let guy run
Come on, I would take your opinion over Aikman. Even about hokies.
What I don't understand is why TC and the front office haven't come to this glaringly obvious conclusion. Seriously, when you look at Fewell time with the Giants, what is his signature on the defense? Turnovers? I don't think so. Is it disguising exotic blitzes? Tight man coverage? Smash mouth bad ass bruising hits? No, none of these things describes Fewell's defense. Fewell defenses have always had one trait - they fail to come up with the big when they need a big play. Not to say they've never gotten a big play - they've had a few - but the defense can't get off the field when they must get off the field.
Venting over... FK!
Agreed, especially on a 3rd and long. We get jailbreaks thrown at us on 3rd downs but when we have a team in 3rd down we rush 3 and drop d-linemen into coverage. Doesn't make a lick of fucking sense.
They can't, hence the reason they're 3-4 and staring at a 7-9 season.
The issue was having Fenner on Bryant. We couldn't cover Bryant with the Prince, the PS player had no hope, and Romo went right after him. I doubt that having Fenner cover Bryant was by design.
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Just awful. How can the Giants win when the defense can't get off the field?
They can't, hence the reason they're 3-4 and staring at a 7-9 season.
I wouldn't say that Holsey wasn't covering anyone on that play.
It looked like Beason or Holsey screwed up, but I'm not sure who. Aikman thought Holsey; Pierce thought Beason.
Whatever, it was another busted coverage in a big game.
I don't think Holsey has covered anyone in 4 years.
I don't understand why when DEs are rushing the passer that they don't put their hands up at least disrupt the QBs vision a little.