Four UNC staffers are being fired, five more being disciplined.
| In comments to reporters Wednesday, Wainstein was reluctant to put a label on the scandal, though at a news conference he offered sharp language to describe the actions of UNC officials at the center of the investigation. He called the “paper classes” Crowder initiated “watered down” and “corrupted” versions of legitimate forms of teaching. Crowder, an administrator, not a professor, assigned high grades to student papers without reading them in full, he said. Wainstein’s review of the papers that Crowder graded shows that in half of them, at least 25 percent of the content had been plagiarized. At least five academic counselors for athletes leaned heavily on Crowder to help struggling athletes remain academically eligible to play, the report says. Before Crowder retired in 2009, athletic counselors urged athletes to turn in their papers before Crowder retired so that she could grade the papers rather than a professor. |
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When is someone going to put the NCAA out of its misery?
When is someone going to put the NCAA out of its misery?
UNC is ACC.
And this is something like 3100 regular students, I believe.
My son spent $100k for his graduate degree at UNC and I've been there many times, in case you were thinking I am anti-UNC. I just find it funny that some schools are a hot button on BBI and others, not so much.
My son spent $100k for his graduate degree at UNC and I've been there many times, in case you were thinking I am anti-UNC. I just find it funny that some schools are a hot button on BBI and others, not so much.
It's possible, but we've been down this road before and nothing about this is really earth-shattering. It was well known that UNC football "sold its soul" a couple years ago.
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When is someone going to put the NCAA out of its misery?
UNC is ACC.
And this is something like 3100 regular students, I believe.
That must be double-counting somehow. Even if every single UNC basketball player since 2003 (when Roy was hired at UNC) was taking AFAM independent studies, the total wouldn't be close to 167.
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Went and found the article citing the "167" number (which I should have done in the first place). It's 167 enrollments. Presumably that means men's basketball players under Roy were enrolled in an "paper" class on 167 occasions (e.g. if you looked at every MBB player transcript since 2003, you would have 167 entries corresponding to a "paper" class).
Additionally, it's worth noting that Doherty coached at UNC for 3 years. Williams has coached at UNC for 11 years. 42 * 11 / 3 = 154. The enrollment rate in paper classes is slightly elevated under Williams (by about 9%), but if there's an argument to be made against Williams, it's that he's been there for so long and hasn't done anything about this, not that he's created or exacerbated this particular problem.
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Walden replaced Burgess McSwain, the basketball team’s former academic counselor who had a close relationship with Crowder. When Doherty became the team’s coach in 2000, he told investigators that he was told by former coaches Dean Smith and Bill Guthridge to not make changes to the academic support system.
“As a result, the McSwain-Crowder pipeline continued to operate,” the report said.
In an interview in 2011, Walden, who left UNC in 2009, denied steering players to bogus classes. He told Wainstein, though, that he worked with Crowder, the former AFAM administrative assistant who hatched the paper class system, on getting basketball players into paper classes.
“He understood that there was an established channel of moving basketball players into these classes,” Wainstein said of Walden. “He continued that channel. He coordinated with Debby Crowder.
So, Walden was Roy's handpicked guy who followed him from Kansas to UNC, and he admitted to the investigators that he actively worked to get basketball players into the bogus classes.....but Roy is completely innocent because he eventually reduced (but didn't completely eliminate) the number of phony classes basketball players enrolled in? Again, 10 of 15 players on the 2005 title team were AFAM majors. Rashad McCants might not be credible, but given what Walden copped to, does it even matter?
Roy also gave a different story in UNC's 2012 whitewash "investigation".
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Still doesn't make his hands clean in this kerfuffle, though.
What happened here isn't right, but I suspect it goes on a hell of a lot more than we know. The NCAA generally doesn't get involved in academic issues like this unless it was 100% athletes in them and no one else had access.
They got involved with Derrick Rose because his SAT score was invalidated as he had someone take it for him and therefore he was ineligible.
Completely different cases.
I would not throw a fit if they did take down the 2005 banner, but not comparable at all to the Derrick Rose situation.
It's not right, I'm not saying that, but NCAA generally doesn't police academic issues like this.
They hammered Memphis because they knew Rose was ineligible at mid-season and still played him. Once his SAT score was invalidated, they had to pull him and they didnt
It's not like it's also become a pretty hot fucking major with successful designers, especially African Americans...
The notes, exams, and assignments were all readily available for students. Complete with answers. You would have to not put in any effort at all to not get an A.
Worse than classes designed as GPA padders are the classes where the prof has checked out, doesn't care, and reuses the same exact material for a decade.
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By "shit like this", are we talking about UNC or VPISU's TJ Maxx major?
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So today, Emmert and the NCAA face a defining moment. What are they going to do about North Carolina? How do you appropriately reprimand a university whose employees spent 18 years making a mockery of higher education? Who put the competitive needs of athletics above the academic development of students? Who made “the most serious academic fraud violations in 20 years” — Haskins’ 18 cheating basketball players — seem like child’s play when compared with the unfathomable scope of UNC’s “shadow curriculum.”
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I could see them focusing on the football team and declining to punish, or to punish seriously, the basketball team. It's still about money and UNC, Duke and a handful of others are the only ones who reliably generate audiences prior to conference tourney time.
There is nothing in the report that suggests these papers were written by someone else. At Minnesota, the basketball manager said she wrote over 400 papers for 20+ basketball players. That isn't what happened here.
The media is stretching big time a lot of the stuff that is in this report.