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NFT: Anyone try the supposed "new best" burger in America?

DanMetroMan : 10/22/2014 5:19 pm
The best hamburger in America — at least that I know of — is hard to get. Obviously, you have to know where it can be found. I will take care of that part right now — it can be found at Raoul's Restaurant, on Prince Street in New York City. It isn't very expensive — less than half the price of the Black Label Burger at Minetta Tavern a few blocks away. It isn't a secret. You don't need a password, or to go through a secret passage in a hotel lobby. As of the time of writing, there is no reservation required. But that doesn't mean it's easy to get.
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dep026 : 10/22/2014 5:46 pm : link
was on the Travel channel a few weeks ago. I think it was Anthony Bourdain who was lucky enough to get one of the burgers. Just absolutely crazy how people swarm for them.
I wouldn't take Ozersky's word as gospel. Give me a double shackstack  
BigGame : 10/22/2014 5:59 pm : link
any day, but among the "fancier" burgers in the city I've tried recently Cherche Midi's prime rib burger was the best.
I just checked  
River Mike : 10/22/2014 6:19 pm : link
their menu, there are no hamburgers on it
I know  
feelflows : 10/22/2014 6:30 pm : link
These threads are subjective and opinions , but...

Anyone who has had it KNOWS the lunch burger at Lugers is the best burger to ever touch human lips. Its fact.
this  
ImThatGuy : 10/22/2014 6:45 pm : link
type of food/restaurant situation is what's wrong with the world today. I enjoy burgers as much as anyone but no burger (or food) is worth this level of effort.

This restaurant and burger only exists so 'foodies' and related d-bag types can brag about it to their friends and upload pics to Instagram. Plenty of other good burger places in this world (shakeshack and lugers were 2 previously mentioned).

Other than that great marketing ploy for the restaurant tho
People who fawn over gourmet hamburgers bemuse me  
Greg from LI : 10/22/2014 7:02 pm : link
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I tried to get a burger at this place a few months back  
jcn56 : 10/22/2014 7:05 pm : link
with a friend of mine visiting NYC who had heard of it. Not only didn't we get one, we didn't get close.

Which only means now I want one even more. Damn you human nature.
there's nothing gourmet about a burger  
feelflows : 10/22/2014 7:05 pm : link
it's the unused meat.. leftovers, so to speak

at least that's the original concept

there's a burger in PA that has onions and mushrooms stuffed in it that's almost perfect.

Wrong  
mattlawson : 10/22/2014 7:17 pm : link
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RE: there's nothing gourmet about a burger  
Giantology : 10/22/2014 7:18 pm : link
In comment 11936097 feelflows said:
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it's the unused meat.. leftovers, so to speak

at least that's the original concept

there's a burger in PA that has onions and mushrooms stuffed in it that's almost perfect.


I'm sorry but you need to leave your filthy fungus out of my burger patty. The onion is ok I guess... I'd rather it be on top.
giantology  
feelflows : 10/22/2014 7:21 pm : link
for 37 years I was with you.. then something happened and I now like mushrooms. weird.

I sautee mushrooms thinly sliced/onion/garlic in olive oil and a tad of butter til it's all carmalized (on a cast iron, of course..medium heat).. it's awesome. I even toss in some brussels for good measure lol
No-no no  
mattlawson : 10/22/2014 7:26 pm : link
A burger isn't meatloaf. Mushrooms are great. So are the sprouts. But you do not mix ANYTHING into a burger like that. Everything goes on top.
matt  
feelflows : 10/22/2014 7:28 pm : link
I'm a traditionalist as well (and the sprouts weren't for the burger).. but that burger is great for PA!!!

Lugers is just great meet, some ketchup, raw onion and maybe pickle.. no cheese.. and the bun? yah. the bun.
I had a very good coarse chopped mignon sandwich  
KeoweeFan : 10/22/2014 9:52 pm : link
for lunch yesterday at the Boat House on the river in Chattanooga. Came with pretty good french fries and excellent onion rings for about $15. (The $4.50 Margarita wasn't bad either.)
They also had hanging from their ceiling an amazingly long scull (about 40' ?) that was used in the movie Dead Poets Society, which of course has nothing to do with burgers.
Chopped filet mignon is dumb  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/22/2014 10:14 pm : link
It's one of the less flavorful cuts of beef. It's selling point is its tenderness. All beef is tender when it's ground up.
C-Ville has opened a couple gourmet burger joints...  
Dunedin81 : 10/22/2014 10:28 pm : link
they're not bad, some of their gourmet features (better buns, for instance) are actually worthwhile. But foie gras on a burger? It's just an excuse to charge $24. You can do some interesting things with a burger (fried egg, for instance) but at a certain point those things become less about taste than about some sort of bizarre delight people - mostly hipsters - take in eating exotic luxury.
Not yet tried their burger  
JonC : 10/23/2014 8:22 am : link
but Raoul's food (and their Scotch selection) overall is quite good.
RE: this  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2014 8:36 am : link
In comment 11936085 ImThatGuy said:
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type of food/restaurant situation is what's wrong with the world today. I enjoy burgers as much as anyone but no burger (or food) is worth this level of effort.

This restaurant and burger only exists so 'foodies' and related d-bag types can brag about it to their friends and upload pics to Instagram. Plenty of other good burger places in this world (shakeshack and lugers were 2 previously mentioned).

Other than that great marketing ploy for the restaurant tho


Damn, so they are pulling the "long con"? Since Raouls has been open since... 1976 and has CONSISTENTLY been praised for their food.


From 2012... aka BEFORE they even had a burger


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" This Soho bistro was a pioneer when it opened in the mid-seventies, a time when area artists were still starving and a smoking ban was a mere glint in Mayor Bloomberg's eye. Still run by the Alsatian Raoul brothers and their families, the well-kept bohemian atmosphere remains, even with a better-fed, tobacco-free clientele. An eclectic bunch of wine-weathered locals, stylish European tourists and young, model types make up the late-night bar crowd, while the three dining rooms suit all moods, from the bright, covered garden behind the kitchen, to the clandestine loft where a fortune teller holds court, to the buzzy main dining room. Decorated with nudes, jazz portraits, and tin ceiling and walls, this is where Europeans, kitten-like models, and longtime locals linger over thick steak au poivre with crispy frites, and fleshy steamed artichokes with thick dipping vinaigrette. They order these classics seemingly for old-times sake, but the insiders know it's because the kitchen is less successful when it experiments, like with a bland tuna tartare, avocado, and plum mixture. No matter what's on the table, however, it's the unwavering laid-back, Left Bank attitude that will always be the draw. — Kathleen Squires"
It's even funnier that ShakeShack is listed  
jcn56 : 10/23/2014 8:41 am : link
as a good burger place. Not a bad chain burger, but doesn't even sniff the rest mentioned on this thread.
Timely  
DanMetroMan : 10/23/2014 8:46 am : link
new list
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Read the article  
BlueHurricane : 10/23/2014 8:47 am : link
Looks good.

My local German Butcher (one of the best in New Jersey) makes a brisket blend to make burgers with. I have had burgers at Village Whiskey in Philly, Minetta in NY and many other burger hot spots. The brisket burger I make on the piece of cast iron on my grill is the best I have ever had. Brisket is the key to a good burger.
you can keep your frou-frou burgers  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2014 8:54 am : link
I'll take Carytown Burgers and Fries every time



The only thing 'frou-frou' about some of these burgers  
jcn56 : 10/23/2014 9:01 am : link
in particular Lugers, is the tears of joy you weep after eating one. That thing is all beef and bacon.

The gimmick burgers tend not to rate that highly. They get the hipster crowds and command big dollars for ridiculous toppings (gold flakes?!) but they're not highly regarded otherwise. The top burger joints in NYC all serve pretty much the same thing - huge slab of beef on a quality roll (or in the case of Korzo Haus, flash fried in dough), with your basic toppings.
jcn  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2014 9:07 am : link
I was referring to the description in the link in the OP:

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Powered by a potent, piquant au poivre sauce, a separate au poivre mayonnaise, a sweet, brisket-heavy LaFrieda blend, topped with a little yarmulke of triple-cream St. Andre cheese, wilted watercress, cornichons, and served on the most delicate of challah buns


I'm not a NYC guy so I wouldn't know about Peter Luger's or the other places you're talking about. Just making a point about burgers like the one Dan created the thread about.

RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 10/23/2014 9:15 am : link
In comment 11936621 Greg from LI said:
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I was referring to the description in the link in the OP:



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Powered by a potent, piquant au poivre sauce, a separate au poivre mayonnaise, a sweet, brisket-heavy LaFrieda blend, topped with a little yarmulke of triple-cream St. Andre cheese, wilted watercress, cornichons, and served on the most delicate of challah buns



I'm not a NYC guy so I wouldn't know about Peter Luger's or the other places you're talking about. Just making a point about burgers like the one Dan created the thread about.


Yeah, but even that one (which I haven't had) sounds like a basic burger, only the description is frou-frou. To translate:

Steak sauce, mayo, ground beef patty, cheese, pickles and watercress (which probably only exists to separate it from your basic Big Mac).
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