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Patricia Traina Article Re: Andre Williams

rdt288 : 10/23/2014 5:10 am
Always enjoyed her writing
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Watching his 2013 film....  
damdevs : 10/23/2014 8:23 am : link
he's got to lose some weight. It looks like he's bulked up too much and lost some of his quickness and speed.
I am not sure the issue is with speed and quickness  
Essex : 10/23/2014 8:28 am : link
From what I have seen, his ability to see a second hole if the first one is clogged is the problem. I think he will be decent when he gets more experience.
He's got some technique to clean up and refine  
JonC : 10/23/2014 8:32 am : link
But, there are some play calls where the lateral step before breaking towards the LOS is part of the play design and timing flow.

The game is already slowing down for him a bit, with more reps and experience it will continue, and his vision and instincts should improve. He's getting used to the increased speed of the game and defenders who run faster, smaller holes that close faster, secondary cutback lanes that are further from the called hole, etc. Just needs to develop patience with reps.
Williams  
adcliff : 10/23/2014 9:01 am : link
was the top combine performer in both the 20 and 60 yard shuttles (as well as broad jump) just 6 months ago.
RE: Williams  
adcliff : 10/23/2014 9:02 am : link
In comment 11936609 adcliff said:
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was the top combine performer in both the 20 and 60 yard shuttles (as well as broad jump) just 6 months ago.


Forgot the link.
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I think he's going to be a very good back in the future  
JFIB : 10/23/2014 10:04 am : link
He has gotten very little help from the O-line thus far. Walton is getting pushed back on almost every running play and Williams is making the most of his opportunities thus far.
Hard to gage if the difference  
TMS : 10/23/2014 10:05 am : link
we saw in our running game since Jennings went down is because of the blocking or Williams. Big difference though. Think Williams will have a hard time changing his running style at this point in his career. He is not as good as Jennings at changing direction or cutting back finding holes, and runs right into people. He needs better blocking at the point of attack from this OL. A tall order right now.
The pro game is different  
VAJerr : 10/23/2014 10:17 am : link
In college he maybe faced a handful of very good defensive players on any one team. In the pros their all good to great. The speed of the game at the pro level is light years ahead of the college game. To often a young RB will dance behind the line waiting for the Red Sea to part and miss that one good opportunity to hit the hole and get what you can from the play. He'll learn.

I'd like to see Cox get some touches as well. I think he has the most speed and moves of any of our RB's. If he can secure the ball better he could be a very valuable asset.
RE: Williams  
Gman11 : 10/23/2014 10:20 am : link
In comment 11936609 adcliff said:
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was the top combine performer in both the 20 and 60 yard shuttles (as well as broad jump) just 6 months ago.


Well, if the Giants need for somebody to perform a broad jump then they should pick him. Shuttles and broad jumps are nice, but how they play the game of football is a better measuring stick.
he will be fine  
GiantsFan84 : 10/23/2014 10:47 am : link
he's playing like a rookie right now because he is a rookie. the game seems to be fast for him right now and he's rushing his runs
It's an easy fix,  
OldPolack : 10/23/2014 11:16 am : link
pay Mr. Barber to coach the kid.
Problem solved
His vision is the issue right now.  
RAIN : 10/23/2014 11:19 am : link
He's not making sight adjustments on the hole.
Our line is poor at run blocking.......  
Dry Lightning : 10/23/2014 11:21 am : link
The wily vet Jennings knows how to delay and pick the holes. WIlliams will learn, and has shown the talent. Just green right now.
I noticed it earlier this season  
Fish : 10/23/2014 11:21 am : link
the game is too fast for the rookie. The ball is snapped and he is running straight into everyone in front of him. He needs to slow it down and be patient.
It took Joe Morris  
PEEJ : 10/23/2014 11:27 am : link
a while to develop patience as well.
It is generally anticipated that talented players will improve, but  
Marty in Albany : 10/23/2014 11:55 am : link
there is no guarantee. You have to wait and see.

I believe that there is an excellent chance that Williams' running and blocking will improve significantly by the end of this season. IMHO, learning to catch this season is highly doubtful.
I know this guy is a north/south  
giantgiantfan : 10/23/2014 12:09 pm : link
type runner, but he's gotta develop at least a little shake and bake. Running full speed into a defender is great to make an occasional statement or pick up the extra yard for the first down. However, on 1st and 10, if he can move into open space instead, he needs to do that.
RE: I know this guy is a north/south  
Patrick77 : 10/23/2014 12:31 pm : link
In comment 11936943 giantgiantfan said:
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type runner, but he's gotta develop at least a little shake and bake. Running full speed into a defender is great to make an occasional statement or pick up the extra yard for the first down. However, on 1st and 10, if he can move into open space instead, he needs to do that.


I don't agree at all. He is supposed to be a north south runner. He should be running harder and quicker IMO. He seems tentative on many plays and his vision is not near what a top back's is. On that long run, that was him aggressively hitting a hole and getting downhill fast. That was one of the few times I came away thinking he was running hard.

I am no expert but when I watch him he runs like he needs a huge hole to hit, otherwise he runs very patiently expecting an opening and then hits the defender at the line when he can't find an opening.
Vs Dallas  
geemanfan : 10/23/2014 6:26 pm : link
He was pretty much hit as soon as the ball was in his hands.
The difference I saw between  
mrvax : 10/23/2014 6:50 pm : link
Jennings and Williams was that Jennings needed only a crease to shoot thru and Williams needs a little bigger hole. Like others have said, he'll likely get better.
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