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dep026 : 10/23/2014 8:25 am
Two dilemmas:

Rivers @ Denver
Ryan vs. Detroit in England

Royal @ Denver
Lafell vs. Bears

Right now I have Rivers/Lafell as Royal is their 3rd WR and is too boom/bust for my liking.
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Rivers over Ryan is a no brainer.  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 8:33 am : link
I'd probably agree with LaFell over Royal.
technically a road game for Matt Ryan  
UConn4523 : 10/23/2014 8:33 am : link
against a top defense...no thanks. You hope Denver/SD is a 60 point game tonight and enjoy.
Philip Rivers  
SamdaGiantsFan : 10/23/2014 8:34 am : link
and its not very close for me...Matt Ryan and the entire Falcons O really struggling lately. That WR choice is a little closer, I would go LaFell
I dont think the gap is as big as you think  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 8:39 am : link
this week.

SD has had success against Denver with ball control. I dont believe it will be as high scoring as many believe. I see a 27-21 type game, and if SD runs the ball like it did last year, I can be screwed. For some reason, I think Ryan has a big game this week.
if your gut says Ryan then go for it  
UConn4523 : 10/23/2014 8:56 am : link
he statistically doesn't travel well and he's facing a D that gets after the QB. Detroit likely won't have Calvin again so they will likely run more and shorten the game. I'd rather be in a shootout with Peyton. A win for Rivers on the road and he leapfrogs Peyton in the MVP race, IMO.
SD  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 8:59 am : link
IMO, wont make the playoffs. Everyone is jumping on them ebcause they beat Seattle at home this year (Seattle is turning out to be like everyone else in the NFL.)

Their schedule is absolutely brutal to end the year:
at Baltimore
New England
Denver
at San Francisco
at Kansas City

They could realistically go 1-4 in those 5 games.
That looks more like 3-2 than 1-4 to me.  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 9:06 am : link
SD is a good team, I 100% buy them and think they will make the playoffs. People don't realize how well their defense is playing.
I can see them  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 9:10 am : link
losing to all those teams on the road, and splitting with Denver/NE at home. I think they are a good team, but it is a pretty tough schedule to end with.

And they played some really shitty offenses lately. Oakland, Buffalo, Jets, Jacksonville.
Sell high on Brandon Oliver?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/23/2014 9:13 am : link
I would trade Brandon Oliver and DeAndre Hopkins
I would receive Randall Cobb and Andre Williams (I have Jennings)

This is a PPR League and I would esentially rip my RB depth for a playoff lineup of Brady, Lynch, a healthy Jennings or Joique Bell, Dez, Brandon Marshall and Randall Cobb.

Thoughts?
Start Oliver tonight at Denver  
Mr Brightside : 10/23/2014 9:26 am : link
or McFadden vs Cleveland Sunday?
Oliver  
Big Rick in FL : 10/23/2014 9:40 am : link
At Denver. I could never start Darren McFadden.
whether or not SD makes  
UConn4523 : 10/23/2014 9:58 am : link
the playoffs is irrelevant for fantasy. All of those opposing defenses are beatable and if nothing else, SD will be passing from behind.
I said to sell Oliver the week after he broke out  
UConn4523 : 10/23/2014 10:00 am : link
I just don't see any way Mathews isn't inserted right where he left off. You don't replace experience, especially when it keeps your MVP candidate QB upright and safely in the pocket.

He's still got good value, but I don't see the huge games others do.
Who do you start  
Pete from Woodstock : 10/23/2014 10:01 am : link
Matt Stafford
Cam Newton

ALL TD's 6 points... 1 pt every 35 yards pass, 1 pt every 10 yards rushing

They have been KILLING me all season...
Stafford  
UConn4523 : 10/23/2014 10:04 am : link
gotta figure Seattle gets its head out of their ass and nuts up on defense. No Megatron most likely but Atlanta D blows so you should expect TD's to come.
RE: That looks more like 3-2 than 1-4 to me.  
MetsAreBack : 10/23/2014 10:19 am : link
In comment 11936620 arcarsenal said:
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SD is a good team, I 100% buy them and think they will make the playoffs. People don't realize how well their defense is playing.



I have their defense for fantasy. They havent done shit the last two weeks - in fact they were downright awful in Oakland and KC left a lot of points on the table with some wide open drops too. I think they have had some injuries though - Flowers and a few others - not sure when they get those guys back. I do know I'm not touching them tonight - I picked up Miami Defense this week as a spot play (@ Jax).

But I agree San Diego could be a WC team. They're going to battle Miami, Baltimore, and KC for 2 wild card slots. Their game in Miami next week is enormous.
RE: RE: That looks more like 3-2 than 1-4 to me.  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 10:29 am : link
In comment 11936734 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 11936620 arcarsenal said:


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SD is a good team, I 100% buy them and think they will make the playoffs. People don't realize how well their defense is playing.




I have their defense for fantasy. They havent done shit the last two weeks - in fact they were downright awful in Oakland and KC left a lot of points on the table with some wide open drops too. I think they have had some injuries though - Flowers and a few others - not sure when they get those guys back. I do know I'm not touching them tonight - I picked up Miami Defense this week as a spot play (@ Jax).

But I agree San Diego could be a WC team. They're going to battle Miami, Baltimore, and KC for 2 wild card slots. Their game in Miami next week is enormous.


Their loss last week could be crippling. KC offense dominated them. I think Rivers went one stretch where he was on the field for over 90 minutes (halftiem included).

The last game of the year at Kansas City could be for a playoff spot.
Trade Help Please  
CromartiesKid21 : 10/23/2014 11:05 am : link
1 pt PPR

Kelce + Knile Davis for Harbor + R Randle

I have Jamaal Charles so was thinking of cuffing him, TE has been a question mark since losing Rudolph. Not thrilled giving up Randle who likely will be a target hog down the stretch, is Kelce that big of an upgrade to make this deal worthwhile?
that trade is fine  
MetsAreBack : 10/23/2014 11:08 am : link
i dont think its worth losing sleep over Clay Harbor.

Kelce for Randle is a wash IMO. So you are trading a scrub TE for a backup RB. Just not a big deal.
dep,  
kmed : 10/23/2014 12:21 pm : link
I don't disagree with your opinion on Rivers. I don't love QB's on the road on a short week, but I really don't like Ryan's matchup. Outside of his home stadium, he's JAG and he's going against a top notch pass defense.
Oliver is going to have a big role in that offense  
kmed : 10/23/2014 12:22 pm : link
regardless of Mathews. He's most likely going to fill in for Woodhead's role at a minimum, which means he's going to see looks in the passing game and I'd assume he snakes some of Mathews carries as well. He's still going to be a starting caliber RB/Flex, but his value will drop a bit. I wouldn't be so quick to trade him unless the return was good.
I agree on Rivers over Ryan anyday  
Koldegaard : 10/23/2014 2:15 pm : link
and I also think you should sell Oliver now.



Would you Guys start Keenan Allen tonight.

Other options are Darren McFadden or Patterson
not big on Keenan Allen...  
TheEvilLurker : 10/23/2014 2:27 pm : link
I have him in FF, and he winds up spending more time on the bench.
but looking at your choices...  
TheEvilLurker : 10/23/2014 2:29 pm : link
Maybe start him or McFadden.
te choice  
TheEvilLurker : 10/23/2014 2:33 pm : link
Dwayne Allen vs Pitt
Delaney Walker vs Houst?

Leaning towards Allen, simply because of qb and defensive lines.
QB Roulette  
notoriousc : 10/23/2014 3:31 pm : link
with Kaepernick on bye, I have Roethlisberger as his backup, but Im tempted to pickup Orton vs Jets or A.Smith vs Rams. What do u think??
RE: te choice  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/23/2014 5:07 pm : link
In comment 11937228 TheEvilLurker said:
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Dwayne Allen vs Pitt
Delaney Walker vs Houst?

Leaning towards Allen, simply because of qb and defensive lines.


I would go Allen as well. Luck spreads it around and I think Nicks is going to be less of a redzone option going forward.
RE: QB Roulette  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/23/2014 5:08 pm : link
In comment 11937298 notoriousc said:
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with Kaepernick on bye, I have Roethlisberger as his backup, but Im tempted to pickup Orton vs Jets or A.Smith vs Rams. What do u think??


Orton. It's the Jets secondary.
One for tonight.  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/23/2014 5:09 pm : link
Rivers @ Den
Wilson @ Car

??
I might go Wilson there.  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 6:05 pm : link
I love Rivers but.. short week, tough matchup, road game.. I don't know. Carolina's defense sucks this year.

Now that Mettenberger has been named starter in TEN, I'm having 2nd thoughts about starting Kendall Wright. Ugh.

Maybe I should just start Allen Robinson. Dude is getting a ton of targets.
.5 PPR league  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/23/2014 7:24 pm : link
Travaris Cadet or Keenan Allen?

I'm really thinking of pulling the trigger on Travaris. Keenan Allen has been a mess for me.
Neither, they both suck.  
kmed : 10/23/2014 7:31 pm : link
Here's to hoping for a big night from Hillman!
I like Cadet this week.  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 7:34 pm : link
I think the Saints O is going to go wild on Sunday night. It's a must win for them and they're in the dome.

Allen is going to get into the endzone eventually... I don't know if tonight will be the night. If I were in your shoes, I would be positive that Allen were going to score if I benched him tonight.. but that he would catch like 3 passes for 40 yards if I started him.
Broncos games are fun for me in prime time..  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 7:35 pm : link
Sanders and Julius in one league, Hillman in another. I kind of want to start Rivers but I have to go with Brees. If I don't use Brees this week, there's no point in even having him.
I tend to give the guys with Thursday night games  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/23/2014 7:42 pm : link
the edge just because it gives TNF a little more juice. They've been going off for me too. But I already have Rivers and Sanders playing for me tonight.

Denver has some really good corners though. Fuck it. I'm starting Cadet.
I know I'm going to regret this  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/23/2014 7:51 pm : link
I can feel it in my bones.
It's the fantasy football juju...  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 8:00 pm : link
Once you start messing with your lineup, everything gets fucked up. I already set the wheels in motion by changing my mind on Wright because of Mettenberger. I decided on Cooks and am positive I am making the wrong decision.
RE: Broncos games are fun for me in prime time..  
Sly Guy : 10/23/2014 8:03 pm : link
In comment 11937613 arcarsenal said:
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Sanders and Julius in one league, Hillman in another. I kind of want to start Rivers but I have to go with Brees. If I don't use Brees this week, there's no point in even having him.


You can get a great return for Brees (I'm someone that could overpay him as a Ryan/Tannehill owner).

Who should I start as my Flex?

Anthony Dixon (vs Jets)
Ben Cunningham (vs KC)
Andre Holmes (vs Cle)

Leaning towards Dixon at the moment. Can't wait for Gordon to come back and solve that damn Flex problem.
Believe it or not...  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 8:20 pm : link
I dangled Brees and got no offers for him.

I was desperate for WR help at that point, though... I think OBJ will fix that so I'm kind of glad I held onto Brees. He's throwing for 300+ every week, the TD's just haven't come in bunches yet but they will.

As for your situation.. I'm not sure I've had good read on that BUF RB scenario so I don't know how much you can expect from Dixon. I wouldn't use Cunningham there. If it's PPR Holmes may actually be your best bet.
Keenan Allen is officially benched  
AnotherGiantsFan : 10/23/2014 8:26 pm : link
I think I'm gonna puke.
RE: Keenan Allen is officially benched  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 10/23/2014 9:35 pm : link
In comment 11937685 AnotherGiantsFan said:
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I think I'm gonna puke.


So did you puke yet? He has 10 points in the first half. I benched him in one league and left him out there in another league.

I also benched Rivers in one league in favor of Stafford. So far, I am feeling good about that decision.
Fucking egg  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 10:01 pm : link
This is what I get for listening to you know it alls. I saw this coming from a mile away. This is the rivers we all know and love. Safe throws. Takes a risk and gets picked.
Oh stop it.  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 10:06 pm : link
The Rivers we all know and love? The dude has been one of the best QB's in football the last 2 years. There's also still a boatload of time left.
Unreal, can you get hillman  
kmed : 10/23/2014 10:08 pm : link
a fucking TD please?
RE: Oh stop it.  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 10:10 pm : link
In comment 11937945 arcarsenal said:
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The Rivers we all know and love? The dude has been one of the best QB's in football the last 2 years. There's also still a boatload of time left.


Capt checkdown.
RE: Unreal, can you get hillman  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 10:10 pm : link
In comment 11937950 kmed said:
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a fucking TD please?


They don't even bother running the ball. Peyton doesn't believe in balance.
If Eli was doing the exact same thing and people blasted him for it..  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 10:11 pm : link
...you'd go nuts on them.
Lol  
dep026 : 10/23/2014 10:13 pm : link
Rivers can't throw it fast enough to oliver.
Watch Denver's front 4..  
arcarsenal : 10/23/2014 10:15 pm : link
They are collapsing the pocket on like every pass play.. Rivers never has time to even wait for guys to get downfield anyway.
Cmon now!  
kmed : 10/23/2014 10:24 pm : link
Hillman deserves a chance at the goal line, what is this crap??
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