As a Yankee fan, I don't blame him for the lack of hitting. I also don't mind letting him go, as when you don't win, changes have to be made. But every player seems to rave about him. I think the Mets got a good one. Link - ( New Window )
Definitely not a coincidence. When you have a team with nearly every guy (at least every regular guy) over 30, it's no coincidence when they perform below their career levels.
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Stan. It had nothing to do with the fact that the only starter under 30 was a guy who toiled in the minor leagues and offense is down from a few years ago.
Gee, how could Derek Jeter be hitting under his career average? Must be Kevin Long.
Stan pissing on it makes me think this is a good move for the Mets. Â
but to completely absolve him of all responsibility is ludicrous. His firing has more to do with results over the course of several seasons, not just this past one.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
but to completely absolve him of all responsibility is ludicrous. His firing has more to do with results over the course of several seasons, not just this past one.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
It's not his fault Beltran is old and gets hurt. It's certainly not his fault Teixeira is too hard-headed to adjust to the shift. Hitting coaches don't make Kevin Maas into Albert Pujols.
but to completely absolve him of all responsibility is ludicrous. His firing has more to do with results over the course of several seasons, not just this past one.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
This. It was far from one bad year, otherwise they wouldn't have fired him.
RE: When Long is trying to teach hitters how to beat the shift Â
but of being arrogant, stubborn, extremely rich guys with long term contracts who have done it one way for a career and aren't willing to struggle a while until they learn something new...old dog and new tricks kind of thing.
I liked how hard Long worked and think that he's really competent. Perhaps this move will shake some of the veterans up enough to make changes, but imo benching some of the geriatric brigade for younger players would be a more convincing method.
below the age of 30? Gardner? that is a pretty long time is it not? The fact that just about every hitter is over the hill is not Long's fault. That is on management for failing to develop prospects sooner then they currently have.
RE: when is the last time the Yankees have developed a hitting prospect Â
below the age of 30? Gardner? that is a pretty long time is it not? The fact that just about every hitter is over the hill is not Long's fault. That is on management for failing to develop prospects sooner then they currently have.
It also doesn't mean the offense should underperform for as long as it has. I'm not saying he is entirely to blame. But he also wasn't part of the solution.
I like Long and don't want to pile on, but come on now. Tell me one player that came to the Yankees from another team and became a better hitter because of Kevin Long? Just one. And since you think it's all about age, and never Longs fault, we can go the other way too. Tell me one player that left the Yankees and became a worse hitter because he wasn't around Kevin Long?
Long is a hard worker and a great guy. All true. It was also time to move on. For all involved.
long definitely should have found the fountain of youth and made players over the age of 35 perform to their career morms. What a fucking piece of shit that Long is.
Or took it, and decided it wasn't working, and then went back to what he was doing? Something like that. Long was an ARod guy. Don't think he and Derek really hit it off.
culpable for signing players into over their prime contracts? Cashman also went through a long drought of not developing any useful young hitters at the major league level. That is exactly why the Yankees offense has stunk the past 2 years.
Still doesn't mean Long was part of the solution. Two weeks ago when the Yankees fired him, everyone was on board with it. Now, it's a problem? That's like the Giants firing a position coach and Giants fans all of a sudden getting pissed because the Jets hired him. Silly.
but to completely absolve him of all responsibility is ludicrous. His firing has more to do with results over the course of several seasons, not just this past one.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
"Mets to decide if they want all their lefties to become 100% pull hitters" http://nomaas.org/2014/10/mets-to-decide-if-they-want-all-their-lefties-to-become-100-pull-hitters/ - ( New Window )
LOL. I wasn't even taking that into consideration.
“I’m trying to hit line drives, hit balls in the alley, hit home runs,” Teixeira said. “When I start trying to hit groundballs the other way, it’s time for me to retire.”
“I’m trying to hit line drives, hit balls in the alley, hit home runs,” Teixeira said. “When I start trying to hit groundballs the other way, it’s time for me to retire.”
Yep, this is somehow Kevin Long's fault.
I'm not sure what this quote has to do with Kevin Long, but if you're suggesting that Long was asking Teix to hit ground balls, that's a freakin joke. He was trying to get Teix to hit line drives and hit the ball to the alleys, which Teix says he was trying to do. But he simply couldn't do it. Yet, in Texas, that's exactly what he did.
I'm glad that you look at this as some kind of positive for Kevin Long. I guess as the hitting coach, he should have no responsibility whatsoever for the production of ANY offensive players. What a life
lack of talent didn't help
Definitely not a coincidence. When you have a team with nearly every guy (at least every regular guy) over 30, it's no coincidence when they perform below their career levels.
Gee, how could Derek Jeter be hitting under his career average? Must be Kevin Long.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
It's not his fault Beltran is old and gets hurt. It's certainly not his fault Teixeira is too hard-headed to adjust to the shift. Hitting coaches don't make Kevin Maas into Albert Pujols.
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
This. It was far from one bad year, otherwise they wouldn't have fired him.
Isn't that a sign of a team tuning out the coach? Blame whoever you want, but when this happens, it's time for a change
I liked how hard Long worked and think that he's really competent. Perhaps this move will shake some of the veterans up enough to make changes, but imo benching some of the geriatric brigade for younger players would be a more convincing method.
RofL laughing my ass off.
Bring in the fences again. Long is the worst hitting coach ever.
Among the top 9 Yankees in plate appearances (2013):
Ichiro
Overbay
Vernon Wells
Chris Stewart
Eduardo Nunez
Jayson Nix
Travis Hafner
ROFL!!! ROFLMAO!! so is my BFF!!!!!
RofL laughing my ass off.
Bring in the fences again. Long is the worst hitting coach ever.
Tally up another one that makes me like this move.
I'm sure you're well-versed in the background of every MLB hitting coach to the point where you can make that declaration.
Some people are so fucking stupid it makes my head hurt.
It also doesn't mean the offense should underperform for as long as it has. I'm not saying he is entirely to blame. But he also wasn't part of the solution.
McCann
Jeter
Tex
Swisher
Gardner
Arod
Martin
Solarte
Almonte
Stewart
Wells
Horrible the last three years
Long is a hard worker and a great guy. All true. It was also time to move on. For all involved.
McCann
Jeter
Tex
Swisher
Gardner
Arod
Martin
Solarte
Almonte
Stewart
Wells
Horrible the last three years
This is a hilarious list. Who was the Yankees hitting coach in 2012 when Derek Jeter led the majors in hits and hit .316?
Long take that year off?
He should help the mets
When is the last time this team over performed, offensively? They have been awful situational hitters and as much as we want to blame it all on the players, he gets paid, too. Paid for results
Yup.
Miguel Cabrera
Joey Bats
Curtis Granderson
http://nomaas.org/2014/10/mets-to-decide-if-they-want-all-their-lefties-to-become-100-pull-hitters/ - ( New Window )
LOL. I wasn't even taking that into consideration.
Yup changed a good average hitter to a hr or strikeout hitter. Same with Tex
Yep, this is somehow Kevin Long's fault.
Yep, this is somehow Kevin Long's fault.
I'm not sure what this quote has to do with Kevin Long, but if you're suggesting that Long was asking Teix to hit ground balls, that's a freakin joke. He was trying to get Teix to hit line drives and hit the ball to the alleys, which Teix says he was trying to do. But he simply couldn't do it. Yet, in Texas, that's exactly what he did.
I'm glad that you look at this as some kind of positive for Kevin Long. I guess as the hitting coach, he should have no responsibility whatsoever for the production of ANY offensive players. What a life