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ctc in ftmyers : 10/23/2014 6:46 pm
go as planned. Good for the grandfather.
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I hope  
feelflows : 10/23/2014 6:51 pm : link
the grandfather is OK.. he's a hero and I'd love to shake his hand.
Glad he was able  
mrvax : 10/23/2014 6:53 pm : link
to shoot the bastards. Home invasions are a sick, sick crime.
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Dunedin81 : 10/23/2014 7:20 pm : link
In comment 11937534 mrvax said:
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to shoot the bastards. Home invasions are a sick, sick crime.


Definitely. Talk about destroying your peace of mind. Hopefully the grandfather and the girl are okay and the two surviving shitheads die in prison.
Ahh frontier justice  
Sec 103 : 10/23/2014 7:56 pm : link
and so well deserved, too bad he couldn't get the other two.
Hope he and his GD are ok...
Always a good idea  
Zebra3 : 10/23/2014 8:19 pm : link
To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.
A good guy with a gun  
giant24 : 10/23/2014 8:21 pm : link
takes out 3 bad guys with guns. Hope Grandpa recovers fully.
RE: Always a good idea  
santacruzom : 10/23/2014 8:46 pm : link
In comment 11937667 Zebra3 said:
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To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.


Probably true in some places, but I always have to wonder whether people who say such things apply the same belief to things more likely to save your life: smoke detectors (frequently checked for battery life), fire extinguishers (replaced when expired), epi pens, defibrillators, etc. And I wonder if these people pursue and refresh CPR and basic first aid knowledge as passionately.
RE: Always a good idea  
Giantology : 10/23/2014 8:48 pm : link
In comment 11937667 Zebra3 said:
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To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.


Absolutely
It's better to be hurt by someone you know accidentally, than by a stranger on purpose - ( New Window )
Assuming the story is accurate  
Some Fan : 10/23/2014 8:51 pm : link
my only issue is he did not kill all three. I wonder about trhe story though.

Also, why do they need to point out that they escaped in the grandfather's "gold cadillac"?
RE: Always a good idea  
section125 : 10/23/2014 8:53 pm : link
In comment 11937667 Zebra3 said:
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To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.


Ah, no it is not a good idea. In Florida, if a kid gets a weapon and somebody gets hurt, you go to jail. In fact, it basically has to be double locked up (extraordinary care? iirc) to prove you took more than reasonable precautions to prevent accidents.
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ctc in ftmyers : 10/23/2014 9:01 pm : link
In comment 11937701 santacruzom said:
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In comment 11937667 Zebra3 said:


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To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.



Probably true in some places, but I always have to wonder whether people who say such things apply the same belief to things more likely to save your life: smoke detectors (frequently checked for battery life), fire extinguishers (replaced when expired), epi pens, defibrillators, etc. And I wonder if these people pursue and refresh CPR and basic first aid knowledge as passionately.


I do. But that's what I did. You need everything in your home that is to be an expected emergency in your home. My defibrillator is inserted in my chest thank you.

Between kids, people, cats, dogs, pigeons, and horses, there aint to much I don't have in stock.

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Zebra3 : 10/23/2014 9:04 pm : link
In comment 11937715 section125 said:
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In comment 11937667 Zebra3 said:


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To hide weapons in all rooms. Easy access can one day save your life.



Ah, no it is not a good idea. In Florida, if a kid gets a weapon and somebody gets hurt, you go to jail. In fact, it basically has to be double locked up (extraordinary care? iirc) to prove you took more than reasonable precautions to prevent accidents.


A stun gun is a weapon, a baton is a weapon,pepper spray is a weapon.
Guns are weapons too but in a safe place without a round in the chamber,and gun saftey taught to all in the household, everyone in my family know the drill. Everyone has been to the range and know self defense too. I also have a great dog and home alarm.
Of course  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/23/2014 9:06 pm : link
concealing weapons from curious kids and idiots is the utmost in safety considerations.
There is an art to hiding a weapon like a gun  
Zebra3 : 10/23/2014 9:22 pm : link
Air vents,back of stereo speakers,in a box off cereal,fan vents,light fixtures,places people don't look or think about looking. A gun safe is nice but you have to be able to get to it in time. It's a chance you take but I'd rather have a plan than be at the mercy of someone else.
Zebra3  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/23/2014 9:31 pm : link
exactly on the hiding.

Florida has a concealed weapons permit. Means I can have a lot of other weapons than a gun.

Knife, brass knuckles, club, etc.
This is a horrifying crime...  
Dunedin81 : 10/23/2014 9:36 pm : link
but if you have young people around (and realistically even if you don't) you're much safer taking your chances with locked doors and maybe an alarm system than stashing weapons around your house. Properly secured weapons, sure. You might have some notice, you might be able to retrieve them. But unsecured, loaded weapons? Not around young people.
Dune  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/23/2014 10:02 pm : link
agree. Event at the house? Everything locked up except maybe a concealed carry.

Wife and myself? Know where there is a reachable weapon in each room and building.

Of course I have gated fenced property.
Sounds like he might have had the gun in the safe  
oipolloi : 10/24/2014 2:50 am : link
Which is actually probably the best place you could keep a loaded gun
the best place to keep a loaded  
IronGiants1973 : 10/24/2014 10:02 am : link
Firearm is on your hip. Secure it however you feel comfortable when it's not within your sight.
RE: Dune  
Patrick77 : 10/24/2014 10:21 am : link
In comment 11937936 ctc in ftmyers said:
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Wife and myself? Know where there is a reachable weapon in each room and building.

Of course I have gated fenced property.


No offense but your community sounds like a terrifying place to live. Gated, fenced property and weapons within reach in every room and building? You're not a Colombian drug lord are you?

I plan on someday owning a gun again but keeping it unloaded, trigger locked, and in a safe. Even on the farm my family keeps the guns with trigger locks on them in one safe and the ammo in another. I can understand having guns for protection but that sounds like a lot of available weapons.
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ctc in ftmyers : 10/24/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11938411 Patrick77 said:
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In comment 11937936 ctc in ftmyers said:


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Wife and myself? Know where there is a reachable weapon in each room and building.

Of course I have gated fenced property.



No offense but your community sounds like a terrifying place to live. Gated, fenced property and weapons within reach in every room and building? You're not a Colombian drug lord are you?

I plan on someday owning a gun again but keeping it unloaded, trigger locked, and in a safe. Even on the farm my family keeps the guns with trigger locks on them in one safe and the ammo in another. I can understand having guns for protection but that sounds like a lot of available weapons.


LOL

No fence is to keep the horses, dogs and whatever livestock I happen to be raising at the time, on the property. Gate, well I have to get through the fence to get to the house some how. I do have to say that since putting in the gate, random people coming an knocking on the door for this or that reason has ceased.

Shouldn't have said I have a gun in every room. It's an open floor plan so actually 2 rooms. One in the bedroom and gun safe in my office. Literally within 20 steps anywhere in the house. An old rifle down in the barn for rats and snakes. Usually a shotgun behind the seat of the truck used when training bird dogs.

Is far as I know, there has been one robbery in my immediate area in the passed 20 years. One of the few ungated properties around. He put a gate in after the fact.
ctc  
Patrick77 : 10/24/2014 11:27 am : link
In comment 11938474 ctc in ftmyers said:
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LOL

No fence is to keep the horses, dogs and whatever livestock I happen to be raising at the time, on the property. Gate, well I have to get through the fence to get to the house some how. I do have to say that since putting in the gate, random people coming an knocking on the door for this or that reason has ceased.

Shouldn't have said I have a gun in every room. It's an open floor plan so actually 2 rooms. One in the bedroom and gun safe in my office. Literally within 20 steps anywhere in the house. An old rifle down in the barn for rats and snakes. Usually a shotgun behind the seat of the truck used when training bird dogs.

Is far as I know, there has been one robbery in my immediate area in the passed 20 years. One of the few ungated properties around. He put a gate in after the fact.


Lol, that sounds reasonable. I read your post and was wrongly thinking of a completely different situation than what you just described.
CTC  
Pork and Beans : 10/24/2014 11:44 am : link
knew what impression he was giving off with his initial comments.
RE: CTC  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/24/2014 12:55 pm : link
In comment 11938532 Pork and Beans said:
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knew what impression he was giving off with his initial comments.


Nah

It's the culture your used too.

It's fun to put forth a scenario with basic facts and watch how our individual perceived assumptions paint the rest of the picture.

The way I read the story is  
BlueStreak : 10/24/2014 1:36 pm : link
The GF TOOK a gun from one of the invaders

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The 67-year-old grandfather managed to grab a gun and shot all three of the suspects.
RE: The way I read the story is  
njm : 10/24/2014 1:50 pm : link
In comment 11938743 BlueStreak said:
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The GF TOOK a gun from one of the invaders



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The 67-year-old grandfather managed to grab a gun and shot all three of the suspects.




I saw an updated report that said he "retrieved" a gun.
Good job  
Giants4246 : 10/24/2014 5:55 pm : link
Would've been better if he blasted all 3 of the vermin.
RE: Good job  
section125 : 10/24/2014 6:14 pm : link
In comment 11939073 Giants4246 said:
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Would've been better if he blasted all 3 of the vermin.


He did. Killed one and wounded the other two.
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