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Cris Carter: 80% of NFL players come from 10 urban areas

Pork and Beans : 10/24/2014 9:18 am
all in the top 25 for crime in America. Anyone hear him say this on Mike and Mike this morning? I was surprised by that if true. Has anyone heard that statistic before? He mentioned he was from Cincinnati and AP was from Compton. I assumed there would be more players from farm country in the midwest.
AP as in Adrian Peterson?  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 9:20 am : link
He was born and raised in rural Texas, not Compton
Sorry  
Pork and Beans : 10/24/2014 9:20 am : link
Antonio Pierce, The original AP
Cris Carter spitting facts yo!  
Vin R : 10/24/2014 9:21 am : link
Here's another fact.

41-0
It's not really that surprising...  
Dunedin81 : 10/24/2014 9:24 am : link
in the trenches I'd imagine more of your "Midwest farmboys" would be represented (the planet theory) but on the whole it makes sense. My high school has never produced a professional athlete, to my knowledge, and I believe our district has produced one (Brian Kozlowski). Individual schools in South Florida, in the Tidewater of Virginia, in LA, have produced multiple HOFers and double-digit pro athletes.
Speaking of Cris Carter  
Bramton1 : 10/24/2014 9:29 am : link
Anyone hear him last Friday get asked by Greenberg and Golic how the 1998 NFC Championship Game loss to the Falcons ranked in his worst moments as a pro?

His answer (not verbatim): "Nothing was worse than 41-0. We were down 14 points before we even got the ball. That was the first time I ever really thought about just quitting football."

Music to my ears.
I doubt that is a real statistic  
oipolloi : 10/24/2014 9:32 am : link
Way more than ten urban areas producing multiple nfl players.

Also, the Nfl is over 80% African American, so it would stand to reason that heavily black areas would produce a proportionate number of players.

RE: Speaking of Cris Carter  
Vin R : 10/24/2014 9:33 am : link
In comment 11938312 Bramton1 said:
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Anyone hear him last Friday get asked by Greenberg and Golic how the 1998 NFC Championship Game loss to the Falcons ranked in his worst moments as a pro?

His answer (not verbatim): "Nothing was worse than 41-0. We were down 14 points before we even got the ball. That was the first time I ever really thought about just quitting football."

Music to my ears.


bwahaha love it
ehhhh, there are plenty of players from small cities and towns, too  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 9:33 am : link
I can't say I have the numbers in front of me but 80% sounds way too high.
Id like to know  
natefit : 10/24/2014 9:36 am : link
where he got that stat but that said, as more middle class suburbanites keep their kids from playing football Im sure he will be right.
RE: ehhhh, there are plenty of players from small cities and towns, too  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/24/2014 9:39 am : link
In comment 11938322 Greg from LI said:
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I can't say I have the numbers in front of me but 80% sounds way too high.


I had the same reaction. I'd like to think he wasn't just saying random words, but I can't imagine that stat being true. The only thing stopping me from laughing at it is I don't actually know.
RE: Speaking of Cris Carter  
truebluelarry : 10/24/2014 9:45 am : link
In comment 11938312 Bramton1 said:
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His answer (not verbatim): "Nothing was worse than 41-0. We were down 14 points before we even got the ball. That was the first time I ever really thought about just quitting football."

Music to my ears.


Cut Cris Carter some slack. He did not do any research and analysis  
Marty in Albany : 10/24/2014 9:50 am : link
on the US population.

Clearly, he was merely repeating something that someone else had told him and he (mistakenly) trusted the accuracy of that information or that person.

Of course, if you think Carter is a jerk, you can go with: Carter heard the correct information, but he is a jerk and repeated it incorrectly on the air.
this doesn't differentiate between urban and other areas  
Blue Baller : 10/24/2014 9:52 am : link
but from this you can quicly dismiss the 80% stat.

I don't think you get 80% from the top ten states

It can't be correct  
Rob in NYC : 10/24/2014 9:53 am : link
There are between 15-20 players from other countries; Sporting News did a breakdown by state in 13, likely didn't change all that much - South Carolina, 54 players; N. Carolina, 46; Wisconsin, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma are all right around 20.
Story from a couple of weeks ago I read  
sjnyfan : 10/24/2014 9:54 am : link
10 areas, no but definitely more urban areas than rural

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Here's a look at what areas of the country have produced the most NFL players.
1 Southern California 153
2 South Florida 122
3 San Fran/Sacramento (Calif.) 74
4 Houston (Texas) 73
4 Dallas/Ft. Worth (Texas) 73
6 Metro Atlanta (Ga.) 70
7 New Orleans/Baton Rouge (La.) 59
8 Chicago (Ill.) 45
9 Central Texas 43
10 Cleveland (Ohio) 41
11 Central Florida 37
12 Detroit (Mi.) 36
13 Tampa Bay (Fla.) 32
14 East Texas 30
14 Cincinnati/Dayton (Ohio) 30
16 Florida Panhandle 28
16 Columbia (SC) 28
18 North Jersey 27
19 Central Jersey 26
20 Phoenix (Az.) 25
21 Birmingham (Ala.) 24
22 South Georgia 22
22 Pittsburgh (Pa.) 22
22 San Diego (Calif.) 22
25 Charlotte (NC) 20
25 South Jersey 20
25 Minneapolis/St. Paul (Mn.) 20
28 Richmond (Va.) 19
28 Virginia Beach (Va.) 19
28 Denver (Col.) 19
28 Philadelphia (Pa.) 19
32 St. Louis (Mo.) 18
33 Nashville (Tenn.) 17
33 Indianapolis (In.) 17
35 Columbus (Ohio) 16
35 Seattle (Wa.) 16
37 Mobile (Ala.) 15
37 West Georgia 15
37 Baltimore (Md.) 15
40 Jacksonville (Fla.) 14
41 Raleigh (NC) 13
41 Greensville (SC) 13
43 Jackson (Miss.) 12
43 Greensboro/Winston Salem (NC) 12
43 SW Florida 12
46 Shreveport (La.) 11
46 Harrisburg (Pa.) 11
46 Charleston (SC) 11
46 Western Michigan 11
46 Knoxville (Tenn.) 11
46 Memphis (Tenn.) 11
46 Las Vegas (Nv.) 11
53 Myrtle Beach (SC) 10
53 Macon/Central Georgia 10
53 Little Rock (Ark) 10
56 Roanoke (Va.) 9
56 Kansas City (Mo.) 9
58 Hunsville (Ala.) 8
59 Montgomery (Ala.) 6
59 Wichita (Ka.) 6

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Just looking at some random stars, there are a bunch from the sticks  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 9:55 am : link
Calvin Johnson from Tyrone, GA; Julius Jones from Foley, AL; Darrelle Revis from Aliquippa, PA; Adrian Peterson from Palestine, TX; Ahmad Bradshaw from Bluefield, VA; Dez Bryant from Lufkin, TX; Demaryius Thomas from Dublin, GA; RG3 from Copperas Cove, TX; Colin Kaepernick from Turlock, CA; Patrick Willis from Bruceton, TN; Jadaveon Clowney from Rock Hill, SC; Jamaal Charles from Port Arthur, TX.
Still, in the what if scenarios back in the 1980s  
Matt in SGS : 10/24/2014 10:00 am : link
When Carter was released by the Eagles because "all he does is catch touchdowns"...which incidentally was Buddy Ryan deflecting the realities of Carter's drug problems and he didn't call him out for it, so he came up with that excuse for why he cut him in order to let Carter find another job. I hated Buddy Ryan, but he didn't have to do that for Carter.

Anyway, Carter was all set to join the Giants. Parcells put a claim in for him because the Giants needed help at WR and he was all ready to drive up North to Giants Stadium. But the Vikings put in the claim and were awarded him ahead of the Giants and he went on to become a Hall of Famer. If he goes to the Giants, he gets his ring in 1990. Wasn't meant to be.
That type of stat would probably be much more accurate  
Marty in Albany : 10/24/2014 10:03 am : link
for the NBA of 50 years ago, not today's NFL.
And Cris Carter isn't from Cincinnati  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 10:06 am : link
He's from Middletown, OH, 40 miles away from Cincy
Based on CC's math about his hometown  
Rob in NYC : 10/24/2014 10:10 am : link
Calvin Johnson is from Atlanta (Tyrone is just south)....so what Johnson should have said is that most of the US population is in driving distance of a bad neighborhood?
What Carter  
Rob in NYC : 10/24/2014 10:11 am : link
Should have said, excuse me...
the larger point needs to be explored I think. it's tough but for ex)  
mattlawson : 10/24/2014 12:29 pm : link
Pot - is smoking considered normal behavior for most NFL players due to the environment they were brought up in? what are the socio-economic factors of the players vs the rule makers and is it too unrealistic? is advising and mentorship enough? very tough topic to discuss
Bit surprised that there's more NFL players from Cali & FL  
Vin R : 10/24/2014 12:56 pm : link
than Texas
well considering  
mdc1 : 10/24/2014 1:00 pm : link
they did not break down the top 2 into actually cities like the rest.
For millions of $$$$  
MotownGIANTS : 10/24/2014 1:19 pm : link
if you cant stop smoking weed...oh well....suffer the consequences. I could see if a guy gets addicted to some pain killers or something at least that is work-related...give 'em paid time off and rehab and does not count against the cap (at least the 1 offense).
Can you imagine  
Doomster : 10/24/2014 1:50 pm : link
what would happen if Jimmy the Greek ever said that?
weed is a pain killer  
Blue Baller : 10/24/2014 1:51 pm : link
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18 and 19  
NNJ Tom : 10/24/2014 1:56 pm : link
Is no surprise to me.
RE: And Cris Carter isn't from Cincinnati  
BigBlueinChicago : 10/24/2014 2:42 pm : link
In comment 11938394 Greg from LI said:
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He's from Middletown, OH, 40 miles away from Cincy


You know some folks do that. I think it's a Midwest thing, but maybe it happens in other places so I can't hold that against him.

Like here, there are many people who didn't go up in Chicago but say they are from it because they grew up in the outlying areas. I would ask specifically where a person would be from and they would give me the suburb/town and I would picture where it is and realize its an hour or two away.

Michigan people do this a lot too. They say they are from Detroit, but when you dig deeper, it is some town out in the sticks that has a population of like 7 people.

It's likely folks from all over the country do that when they speak of where they grew up.
thought there might be more  
Phil in LA : 10/24/2014 2:44 pm : link
from Western PA.
well, I get why people do that in general  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 2:50 pm : link
If you're from a suburb, especially a smaller one, of a big city, and you move away, people you meet often won't be familiar with your little suburb. Move to South Carolina and tell people "I'm from Buckeye, Arizona", you then have to explain where Buckeye is because no one in SC has any idea. So you just say "I'm from Phoenix", and you don't have to do any explaining.

In this case, though, Cris Carter is trying to make some kind of socioeconomic statement that most NFL players are from a few high crime cities. Growing up in inner-city Cincinnati and growing up in Middletown are, I would guess, two entirely different things.
Phil  
Phil from WNY : 10/24/2014 2:53 pm : link
My wife has relatives in Western PA and it's not the same place that bred those great football players from the past.
Middletown is about 15 miles outside of Cincy  
Scott Brunner : 10/24/2014 2:59 pm : link
I'd compare it to a place like Uniondale, L.I.
according to Bing maps, it's 41  
Greg from LI : 10/24/2014 3:03 pm : link
It's actually closer to Dayton (26 miles) than it is to Cincinnati.
That's possible  
Scott Brunner : 10/24/2014 3:12 pm : link
I used to live in Dayton so if I was taking 75 South once you pass Middletown you're not far from the outer suburbs of Cincy. Plus their High School was in a conference w/ schools from those suburbs so I always linked it more to Cincy than Dayton.
no excuse  
SBlue46 : 10/24/2014 6:22 pm : link
Give them millions and they stay the same....
Instead of makin better life for themselves and others
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?  
shepherdsam : 10/24/2014 10:45 pm : link
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RE: no excuse  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/24/2014 11:42 pm : link
In comment 11939105 SBlue46 said:
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Give them millions and they stay the same....
Instead of makin better life for themselves and others


That explains the constant carriage returns - tough to see the screen from beneath your pointy hood.
Matt in SGS  
Matt M. : 10/25/2014 12:04 am : link
What would be an interesting question for Carter is how would he view his career if he ended up on the Giants and won the SB in 90 (and possibly even 1 or 2 more if he was on board), but did not have the HOF career. Because if he ended up on the Giants the odds of him putting up HOF numbers were extremely thin.
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