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I didn't see any of you rush to the keyboard when the Sergeant at Arms in the Canadian Parliment stopped a terrorist with his gun...
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In comment 11938907 dontboobigblue said:
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There is something wrong with our society. This shit only happens in America.
Yes, the individuals who commit these acts are to be held accountable but what is it about our culture that we are constantly killing each other.
Norway?
The poster was guilty of hyperbole. That should not distract from the core point: we have a bigger problem with school killings than any country on earth. What can we do about it?
Not easy and i don't pretend to have all the answers (or any), but i'd start with education, heighten awareness of warning signs, don't repeal the 2nd amendment (as a gun owner I support it), but definitely impose more controls around the process to acquire firearms and make gun owners accountable for their guns security and liable for them (criminally) if they're used in a crime. general deterrents and education are where I'd start.
I didn't see any of you rush to the keyboard when the Sergeant at Arms in the Canadian Parliment stopped a terrorist with his gun...
I don't think the "predictable anti-gun zealots" have a problem with the Sergeant at Arms in the Canadian Parliment has a gun. "They" have a problem with every half-wit, nutcase, and psychotic having one. Can you comprehend the difference?
Did you actually read the piece in the ten minutes it took you to respond? If so you would see that much of the article focuses on the work done by Andre Simons, of the FBI's Critical Incident Response Group, and also references the work of Michelle Keeney of the Secret Service National Threat Assessment Center. I'm surprised you dismiss their experience and expertise so readily.
machine guns and leave for dead. ...
Sometimes riding 4 wheelers and drunk...
thats not how I hunted 25 years ago..
that really hate us yankees...like we're
still in civil war
You can hunt just fine with a traditional bolt or levered action rifle and you should be able to defend your home or person with most older styled traditional handguns. For that matter I think a shotgun makes for a better home protection weapon than most handguns.
Yes, the individuals who commit these acts are to be held accountable but what is it about our culture that we are constantly killing each other.
Yep, only in America. And only in recent times...
Or maybe not.
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Yeah, let's let em keep dying.
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machine guns and leave for dead. ...
Sometimes riding 4 wheelers and drunk...
thats not how I hunted 25 years ago..
that really hate us yankees...like we're
still in civil war
ummmmmmmmmmm what?
Eliminating guns in the United States is not feasible, nor would it stop killings. It'd certainly reduce them, because it's far easier to kill with a gun than most alternatives. If someone's set on killing me, but they only have a knife vs a gun, they still might succeed in killing me, but I'd have a much better shot of getting away alive.
Also why do so many people think gun control = banning guns?
On the opposite end of the spectrum from the getting rid of all guns argument are the nutters that think them being armed would somehow help against government oppression. That argument made sense before tanks, cruise missles, aircraft, etc.
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Don't even wait for the bodies to cool. Some of you must really enjoy these opportunties to spout the same old anti-gun zealotry...
I didn't see any of you rush to the keyboard when the Sergeant at Arms in the Canadian Parliment stopped a terrorist with his gun...
How idiotic.
I agree Randy. Its idiotic post like this that make me pessimistic about this country. It is truly sad.
No, but you are unarmed.
Nothing wrong with that. I was just explaining that you weren't unAmerican.
I'd guess if that figure is correct it's like income distribution 90% of the wealth is owned by 1% of the country (or whatever it is), guns are probably similar but less concentrated, I'd guess 75% of the firearms are owned by 33% of the population (or less).
As a new gun owner, it has nothing to do with protection (for me).
I didn't see any of you rush to the keyboard when the Sergeant at Arms in the Canadian Parliment stopped a terrorist with his gun...
Because we support cops having guns?
Nope. That's the great thing about this country. It's your choice.
I agree with you, but I don't think that the folks you are describing, the ones "searching for answers", are the subject of his comment.
most of these murders are 20...30...going
thru emotional stages in life....half these guys
dont own a home or hunt ..so why should they
have a gun....jints....you haven't seen hunters
on side of road in nc drinkin while dogs are
chasing deer and they shoot from road
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
I agree with you, but I don't think that the folks you are describing, the ones "searching for answers", are the subject of his comment.
In that case I'll have to re-read the thread because I don't remember seeing any posts that I would describe as written by an ant-gun zealot.
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
I agree with you, but I don't think that the folks you are describing, the ones "searching for answers", are the subject of his comment.
In that case I'll have to re-read the thread because I don't remember seeing any posts that I would describe as written by an ant-gun zealot.
They're not hard to find...
Guns are the best!
BeerFridge : 3:38 pm : link : reply
America Fuck Yeah!
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
I agree with you, but I don't think that the folks you are describing, the ones "searching for answers", are the subject of his comment.
In that case I'll have to re-read the thread because I don't remember seeing any posts that I would describe as written by an ant-gun zealot.
They're not hard to find...
Guns are the best!
BeerFridge : 3:38 pm : link : reply
America Fuck Yeah!
Looks to me like a parody of gun zealots. Well, as with most things its a matter of perspective, and frankly I regret involving myself in this thread. Its polarizing and no win.
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In comment 11939220 River Mike said:
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
I agree with you, but I don't think that the folks you are describing, the ones "searching for answers", are the subject of his comment.
In that case I'll have to re-read the thread because I don't remember seeing any posts that I would describe as written by an ant-gun zealot.
They're not hard to find...
Guns are the best!
BeerFridge : 3:38 pm : link : reply
America Fuck Yeah!
Looks to me like a parody of gun zealots. Well, as with most things its a matter of perspective, and frankly I regret involving myself in this thread. Its polarizing and no win.
That's a shame because you're a great poster. I wish it was the halfwits that decide to leave threads and not the thoughtful posters...
The only zealots here are the ones who support gun rights under the guise of the constitution while 100 children are killed in schools every year with weapons that are so readily accessible one could toss a few newspapers for a month and have enough money to buy a weapon that shoots and has no consequences.
It's time to stop making them so available.
No, you should not be able to open a closet and have 20 rifles piled into it.
No, you should not be able to buy a firearm for $400
No, you should not be concerned about your constitutional rights being infringed on. Admit that you are a selfish, savage, animal and hoodlum who wants his gun collection and its OK that 100 children a year die because of it.
Ban them all and ship it to China.
The only thing that's morally bankrupt is the utter selfishness of gun toting savages that populate this country. These are the same people who say that there is no palatable solution.
Of course there isn't. They are the one who are morally bankrupt. The impasse of any kind of serious weapons debate lies with them, and they willingly sit on their hands while 100 children die every year in this country.
Yet, the majority of this thread proclaims that there is no solution available? That is the height of irresponsibility as a citizen.
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
The only thing that's morally bankrupt is the utter selfishness of gun toting savages that populate this country. These are the same people who say that there is no palatable solution.
Of course there isn't. They are the one who are morally bankrupt. The impasse of any kind of serious weapons debate lies with them, and they willingly sit on their hands while 100 children die every year in this country.
Yet, the majority of this thread proclaims that there is no solution available? That is the height of irresponsibility as a citizen.
I think you are right. Along with all the guns, ban alcohol and tobacco products and ship them to China too.
How the hell hasn't this ass clown been banned yet? So gun advocates are animals, hoodlums and any variation of the numerous names you called them. And you say it is THEM that is complaining about having an answer?
Ship them all to China! You're brilliant! Why didn't we all think of that?
The thing that really gets under my skin a bit, is that it seems that a lot of people that are pro-gun do not want to hear ANYTHING about more strict regulation. That just does not compute to me. I don't know what the answer is... but GOD does it make me sad to have to see people so often who lost their small children... still almost toddlers really... to some sick fuck whose mother decided it was a fantastic idea to hand over a fucking ARSENAL to. And I don't claim to have the answer, but I sure wish we could find... something, some happy medium.
What can be done. The gun belonged to the father, apparently legally. The gun should have been locked up and secured and the kid should not have been able to get it. All you can do is charge the parents with negligence. I don't think a new law is going to do anything for this case.
Nah, you could have a buy back plan and stop the sale and manufacture of guns - other countries have done that with great success. Guns would become a lot more expensive and hard to obtain for disgruntled assholes who are approaching psychotic breaks. But the unicorn fart would be getting the 2nd Amendment defect removed from the constitution.
Doesn't get more Utopian than that.
The thing that really gets under my skin a bit, is that it seems that a lot of people that are pro-gun do not want to hear ANYTHING about more strict regulation. That just does not compute to me. I don't know what the answer is... but GOD does it make me sad to have to see people so often who lost their small children... still almost toddlers really... to some sick fuck whose mother decided it was a fantastic idea to hand over a fucking ARSENAL to. And I don't claim to have the answer, but I sure wish we could find... something, some happy medium.
Looked that up too. No it is really 14 or 15. That 80 number is by Bloombergs group and the includes anything near a school.
But 14 or 15 is 14 or 15 too many....
How the hell hasn't this ass clown been banned yet? So gun advocates are animals, hoodlums and any variation of the numerous names you called them. And you say it is THEM that is complaining about having an answer?
Ship them all to China! You're brilliant! Why didn't we all think of that?
There has yet to be a single gun owner in this thread whose done anything to acknowledge the obvious, that this country has a serious issue with how its weapons consistently fall into the wrong hands, and now those hands are killing grade school children.
And I am being called accused of bring useless? This is buffoonery.
Again, you all weapon toting animals are utterly shameless and know no bounds. Hundreds of grade school children die and you all remain unmovable.
Utterly shameful and beyond disgusting.
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lifelong hunter, skeetshooter, etc. I have a bunch of guns and 5 multi stage reloaders. I am not anti gun by any stretch. But to call the posters on this thread anti-gun zealots just paints you as a non-thinking moron. tragedies like this are way too common, and if they didn't stir discussion of what if anything can be done about it would make me wonder what was wrong with my countrymen. Honestly, I cannot think of any palatable form of gun control that would end or even substantially curtail these horrors. But to not at least try to search for answers, and worse yet, deamonize those who do is morally bankrupt
What can be done. The gun belonged to the father, apparently legally. The gun should have been locked up and secured and the kid should not have been able to get it. All you can do is charge the parents with negligence. I don't think a new law is going to do anything for this case.
Defeatist.
Weapons toting neanderthals refuse to have a serious dicussion with regard to why their weapons consistently fall into the wrong hands.
Children die
Officers senselessly targeted and killed in cold blood
High school children die
And all of these weapons toting hoodlums continue to sit on their hands and utilize the guise of the constitution as a means to continue stocking up their weapons while more and more innocent people die.
And, on a more prosaic level, they're the kind of fucking idiots who think they can wave a magic wand, have a unicorn fart, and make the hundreds of millions of guns already in existence in this country disappear. Planning on doing house-to-house searches by SWAT teams?
Which kind wears jorts? Because that's the side I want to oppose. Oh, and the guns. Having them is f'ing stupid.