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Rules question - is it possible

BlackLight : 10/24/2014 7:39 pm
for a game to end in OT with a 9 point differential?

For example, Team A takes the ball first in OT, and gets a FG, then throws an INT or fumbles which leads to a return to the endzone. Does the score count?

On one hand, I assume it does, since I wouldn't think they'd blow the play dead immediately after opposing possession is established. Or would they? After all, suppose the recovering or intercepting team immediately fumbles the ball back to the offense, on the same play. Would the offense have to somehow score on that same play, or would they get a new possession and chance to score?
Sorry, just realized that didn't make sense  
BlackLight : 10/24/2014 7:52 pm : link
Here's what I meant.

Team A kicks the FG with the opening poss., then returns an INT/fumble to the endzone on the ensuing possession. Does that score count?
Your question restated: Team A scores a FG in overtime  
Marty in Albany : 10/24/2014 7:52 pm : link
then kicks off to Team B. The ball goes into the Team B end zone but is untouched by Team B and the live ball is recovered by Team A. Does Team A win by 3 points or by 9 points?
Marty  
pjcas18 : 10/24/2014 7:56 pm : link
why does it have to be that way?

I understand the question.

After team A kicks the FG on possession 1, team b gets a possession per overtime rules.

During that team B possession if team B throws a pick or fumbles and team A returns it for a touchdown I believe the TD counts.

Not 100% sure, but I see no reason why it wouldn't.
I read it as, Team A gets a FG. +3. Kickoff to Team B.  
glowrider : 10/24/2014 7:58 pm : link
Team B throws a pick 6 to Team A. Does that score count - I'd say yes. The play is still live and doesn't end until the points are scored. Many players would just go to the ground.
If by 9, the guy  
Big Al : 10/24/2014 7:58 pm : link
Who took 4 points had an unpleasant surprise.
Pj. You're right. I did not fully understand the question  
Marty in Albany : 10/24/2014 8:07 pm : link
I was thinking more along the lines of is the game over when Team B loses possession or is the game over when the play is over?

When a team scores a TD the play is over as soon as the ball crosses the plane of the goal. It does not have to be downed. The same is true for a recovery in the endzone. Loss of possession and the end of the play happen at the same time.
yes you can win by 9  
ray in arlington : 10/24/2014 8:13 pm : link
confirmed by an NFL guy in the link below
winning by 9 - ( New Window )
Ok, that makes me wonder about another scenario or question.  
wgenesis123 : 10/24/2014 8:24 pm : link
Team A kicks off, onsides kick and recovers the ball cleanly 12 yards down the field. Team B never touched the ball. Does that count as a possesion for Team B?
Yes the score would count.  
eclipz928 : 10/24/2014 8:30 pm : link
But something like that wouldn't likely happen - the defense causing the turnover would (hopefully) understand that the game is over as soon as the turnover occurs and just down the ball on the spot.

And according to the link, the offense can still stay alive in the game by causing a fumble on the same play and returning it for a touchdown. Very interesting scenario.
RE: Ok, that makes me wonder about another scenario or question.  
eclipz928 : 10/24/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 11939201 wgenesis123 said:
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Team A kicks off, onsides kick and recovers the ball cleanly 12 yards down the field. Team B never touched the ball. Does that count as a possesion for Team B?


Yes. A kickoff is considered a automatic change of possession regardless of whether the returning team ever touches the ball. That's why the ball is considered live on the onside kick or if the returner fails to field the kickoff.

I doubt any team would ever attempt an onside kick in OT after just taking the lead.
eclipz928  
wgenesis123 : 10/24/2014 10:23 pm : link
thank you
You could also  
NINEster : 10/24/2014 11:43 pm : link
have a safety following the 3 points, and win the game by 5.

BTW, how many OT games have been decided by 3 points under the new rules? It seems like the games mostly end by the first team scoring a TD or both teams scoring an FG each.

Only time I can recall seeing a team lose in an OT by failing to convert on 4th down was Sanchez vs. Patriots two years ago.

But the guy scoring the 6 via the int or fumble return should  
BlueLou : 10/25/2014 2:42 am : link
have a new bodily orifice opened by his coach. The smart play is to take the possession and go down. No need to risk ball security.

Unless it's an end zone recovery at the time of turnover.
Let's not forget you can't advance a fumble recovery in OT  
glowrider : 10/25/2014 3:08 am : link
Correct me if Im wrong.

So it'd have to be a pick six or fumble recovery in the endzone or safety. But not a fumble recovery elsewhere. That'd be a change of position and end of game.
RE: But the guy scoring the 6 via the int or fumble return should  
GIANTSr01 : 10/25/2014 9:28 am : link
In comment 11939350 BlueLou said:
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have a new bodily orifice opened by his coach. The smart play is to take the possession and go down. No need to risk ball security.

Unless it's an end zone recovery at the time of turnover.


If a team is backed up in their end and you pick off a pass in the flat, you could probably just walk into the endzone.
hate the OT rules  
aquidneck : 10/25/2014 9:38 am : link
Actually would prefer they let ties stand. Creates more drama around 2pt conversions.
I'm just glad  
BlackLight : 10/25/2014 12:31 pm : link
that they didn't change the rules to imitate college football OT.
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