If you watched the replay without a biased eye you would have seen Klein skating over in a measured manner and Prust dropped his gloves well before Klein fully engaged. Nice try though.
LOL, ok, it was obvious to everyone on the planet Klein went in there for one reason, I'm watching the Rangers broadcast and they were pretty much admitting it too.
your absurd and exaggerated interpretation of just about everything is embarrassing even for a panty wearing Canadiens fan like yourself.
First, where did I say that Klein had no intent on fighting and 2nd, why don't you enlighten us all on the instigator rule and more importantly how you would interpret that rule?
I said McDonagh was slew footed, which he was, by PA Parrenteu and ther was no call. That is what happened. I didn't complain about it. The truth is not a complaint. They got schools where you come from?
is pretty simple, for those of you unfamiliar with hockey outside of June (most of this thread it seems) I'll post it for you.
if you don't think what Klein did satisfies several of these criteria - then just admit you're biased and we'll move on or just don't comment on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. Notice ANY or SOME of the following.
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46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
I said McDonagh was slew footed, which he was, by PA Parrenteu and ther was no call. That is what happened. I didn't complain about it. The truth is not a complaint. They got schools where you come from?
And I commented Klein should have received an instigator penalty, also a fact, and I casually mentioned it, didn't cry about it, harp on it, or anything else, and I was branded a whiner.
you guys are cranky tonight I guess I'm an easy target. I'll let you guys battle among yourselves like will eventually happen (and I need to put my kids to bed). So have fun.
I'll leave you with this:
it's a great game so far. Henrik is keeping the Rangers in (some great 2nd period saves), Price is keeping the Habs in.
If Girardi played like this in the finals, the Rangers might be the reigning stanley cup champs right now. Not sure what was wrong with him (fatigue?), he looks like a totally different player
Right, we're the ones who are biased because we've watched enough NHL hockey that we know that the instigator rule is never applied in cases like this. Klein engaged in manner that happens after a hit many times a game. There was no scrap until Prust dropped his gloves.
you were right, there should have been an instigator penalty only it should have been called on Prust for "gloves off first" ....
If you really think that warranted an instigator penalty I guess you're smarter than all of us including the officials standing just a few feet away from it all.
Keep up it up though, you're truly amusing us all here.
Has not been useless on our team. Sorry if he was on yours. Maybe it was the coach, the system, the teammates, but in Montreal, he is a very effective 4th liner and sometimes more when asked.
It sure looked like it to me that he violated the instigator rule, but for some reason, there is no uniformity regarding the interpretation of that rule, so it is what it is.m
Flyers obviously have a bunch of low-life scum as fans and the Penguins fans are front-runners, but holy shit, Canadiens' fans bitch, whine, moan and cry about everything. If a Canadians player trips, they'll bitch that it's a penalty.
And really? You're going to keep replaying a commercial about a car
It sure looked like it to me that he violated the instigator rule, but for some reason, there is no uniformity regarding the interpretation of that rule, so it is what it is.m
I didn't expect them to call it, and i wasn't complaining about it, but yeah, technically, that's the rule.
Price is the story so far, I hope he stays healthy, the Canadiens have a solid team, but they'll go as far as he takes them.
46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria:
Distance traveled: Maybe 10 feet ..,not flying and screaming from the blue line like Ogie Ogelthorpe
Gloves off first; Prust
First punch thrown; Sure looked like Prust
Menacing attitude or posture; Sure, Arc coined the nickname Evil Stralman but if you re-watch Klein's body language it was not that of a wild animal pouncing on his prey
Verbal instigation or threats; Don't think there was any jawing like we see on a faceoff prior to gloves being dropped
Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
Well, there you have it lady Hab's fans but then again I'm sure you'll bowl us all over with your interpretation and hockey acumen.
that Klein didn't go after Prust because of the hit on Zuccarello?
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
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Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
I agree, if Price can stay healthy we can go all the way because he is capable of carrying us when outplayed. However, I like our balance this year, plus we are no longer filled with smurfs, getting rid of Gionta and Briere.
I agree, if Price can stay healthy we can go all the way because he is capable of carrying us when outplayed. However, I like our balance this year, plus we are no longer filled with smurfs, getting rid of Gionta and Briere.
the only small players are Gallagher and Desharnais and Gallagher plays much bigger (if you know what I mean) and Desharnais uses his lack of size to his advantage.
that Klein didn't go after Prust because of the hit on Zuccarello?
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
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Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
You like that, didn't you? Perhaps you should have put yourself to bed rather than your kids.
Can you then explain why the on ice officials chose not to call an instigator penalty? Could it be that there were several components to this situation and they decided it wasn't warranted? Could there be a modicum of truth to that or are you unwilling to see their position?
Let me put it this way, as it might be a little easier for a simpleton like you to understand (though I'm surely giving you way too much credit) I'm going to give the paid professional on ice the benefit of the call or non-call because he/they can clearly see it unfolding in front of them thusly they have a much better perspective and vantage point, wouldn't you say?
Seriously, if you're hiding behind the veil and position of, I don't like violence in sports and fighting scares me, just be man enough to come out and admit it.
RE: RE: are you seriously trying to convince yourself
that Klein didn't go after Prust because of the hit on Zuccarello?
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
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Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
You like that, didn't you? Perhaps you should have put yourself to bed rather than your kids.
Can you then explain why the on ice officials chose not to call an instigator penalty? Could it be that there were several components to this situation and they decided it wasn't warranted? Could there be a modicum of truth to that or are you unwilling to see their position?
Let me put it this way, as it might be a little easier for a simpleton like you to understand (though I'm surely giving you way too much credit) I'm going to give the paid professional on ice the benefit of the call or non-call because he/they can clearly see it unfolding in front of them thusly they have a much better perspective and vantage point, wouldn't you say?
Seriously, if you're hiding behind the veil and position of, I don't like violence in sports and fighting scares me, just be man enough to come out and admit it.
you are dumber than I thought. I feel sorry for your offpsring should there be any.
In one post you cry about the refs calling every 3rd penalty, then you hide behind them not calling one as as fact that one did not occur.
you're probably BPD maybe schizophrenic if it's not just an intelligence thing.
and I don't give a shit about the penalty, I already said that, so keep on with your theories about fighting which is beyond irrelevant to the conversation it makes you look even sillier.
Tough loss I guess. Rangers didn't do much to deserve the win. Price is Montreal's best player. He was really good. Especially when the Rangers shoot the puck right into him.
Zucc continues to suck ass. Staal skates on mud. Nash was invisible unfortunately.
Eh. Whatever.
At least the Giants will be undefeated this weekend.
Especially considering every other team in the Metro won tonight, but I think the Rangers are continuing to develop their style for this year and I think they can stay in it until Stepan and Boyle get back. Tip of the cap to the Habs.
My team is at full strength and yours isn't, so that means something. Your boys have been playing good hockey and didn't play badly last night. It was a tough, closely fought game. Playing in Montreal is not easy. We won all 4. This should be a fun season, depending on health of course.
I wasn't really disappointed with how we played despite the result. The Canadiens have a good team - better than last year. And they're really hot right now.
Yeah, your 'don't mention my name' shit was pathetic and childish. The whining brings down the quality of the threads. pj knows the game better than you, anyway.
MAB: I'm passing the puck for now. I had a game on Saturday so I watched on delay. Head's clearly not in it.
my whine, which was just an observation, is countered double-time by Phil in LA and stuff the run
you write something on a public message board it's public domain so stop being a vagina
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should gave got an instigator penalty.
If you watched the replay without a biased eye you would have seen Klein skating over in a measured manner and Prust dropped his gloves well before Klein fully engaged. Nice try though.
LOL, ok, it was obvious to everyone on the planet Klein went in there for one reason, I'm watching the Rangers broadcast and they were pretty much admitting it too.
your absurd and exaggerated interpretation of just about everything is embarrassing even for a panty wearing Canadiens fan like yourself.
First, where did I say that Klein had no intent on fighting and 2nd, why don't you enlighten us all on the instigator rule and more importantly how you would interpret that rule?
that is all. I'll reference anyone who posts anything on any thread.
you don't want your comments referenced, don't make them.
hopefully that makes sense to you.
if you don't think what Klein did satisfies several of these criteria - then just admit you're biased and we'll move on or just don't comment on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. Notice ANY or SOME of the following.
And I commented Klein should have received an instigator penalty, also a fact, and I casually mentioned it, didn't cry about it, harp on it, or anything else, and I was branded a whiner.
Same school you're from.
I'll leave you with this:
it's a great game so far. Henrik is keeping the Rangers in (some great 2nd period saves), Price is keeping the Habs in.
If Girardi played like this in the finals, the Rangers might be the reigning stanley cup champs right now. Not sure what was wrong with him (fatigue?), he looks like a totally different player
If you really think that warranted an instigator penalty I guess you're smarter than all of us including the officials standing just a few feet away from it all.
Keep up it up though, you're truly amusing us all here.
I didn't expect them to call it, and i wasn't complaining about it, but yeah, technically, that's the rule.
Price is the story so far, I hope he stays healthy, the Canadiens have a solid team, but they'll go as far as he takes them.
Distance traveled: Maybe 10 feet ..,not flying and screaming from the blue line like Ogie Ogelthorpe
Gloves off first; Prust
First punch thrown; Sure looked like Prust
Menacing attitude or posture; Sure, Arc coined the nickname Evil Stralman but if you re-watch Klein's body language it was not that of a wild animal pouncing on his prey
Verbal instigation or threats; Don't think there was any jawing like we see on a faceoff prior to gloves being dropped
Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
Well, there you have it lady Hab's fans but then again I'm sure you'll bowl us all over with your interpretation and hockey acumen.
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
the only small players are Gallagher and Desharnais and Gallagher plays much bigger (if you know what I mean) and Desharnais uses his lack of size to his advantage.
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
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Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
You like that, didn't you? Perhaps you should have put yourself to bed rather than your kids.
Can you then explain why the on ice officials chose not to call an instigator penalty? Could it be that there were several components to this situation and they decided it wasn't warranted? Could there be a modicum of truth to that or are you unwilling to see their position?
Let me put it this way, as it might be a little easier for a simpleton like you to understand (though I'm surely giving you way too much credit) I'm going to give the paid professional on ice the benefit of the call or non-call because he/they can clearly see it unfolding in front of them thusly they have a much better perspective and vantage point, wouldn't you say?
Seriously, if you're hiding behind the veil and position of, I don't like violence in sports and fighting scares me, just be man enough to come out and admit it.
Quote:
that Klein didn't go after Prust because of the hit on Zuccarello?
Holy fuckingidiotshitballs
Quote:
Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply
that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?
even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?
You like that, didn't you? Perhaps you should have put yourself to bed rather than your kids.
Can you then explain why the on ice officials chose not to call an instigator penalty? Could it be that there were several components to this situation and they decided it wasn't warranted? Could there be a modicum of truth to that or are you unwilling to see their position?
Let me put it this way, as it might be a little easier for a simpleton like you to understand (though I'm surely giving you way too much credit) I'm going to give the paid professional on ice the benefit of the call or non-call because he/they can clearly see it unfolding in front of them thusly they have a much better perspective and vantage point, wouldn't you say?
Seriously, if you're hiding behind the veil and position of, I don't like violence in sports and fighting scares me, just be man enough to come out and admit it.
you are dumber than I thought. I feel sorry for your offpsring should there be any.
In one post you cry about the refs calling every 3rd penalty, then you hide behind them not calling one as as fact that one did not occur.
you're probably BPD maybe schizophrenic if it's not just an intelligence thing.
and I don't give a shit about the penalty, I already said that, so keep on with your theories about fighting which is beyond irrelevant to the conversation it makes you look even sillier.
Zucc continues to suck ass. Staal skates on mud. Nash was invisible unfortunately.
Eh. Whatever.
At least the Giants will be undefeated this weekend.
Nice win, pj/spock.
Pretty simple...horrible decision by McD on the Power Play and a heck of a game by Price.
Fucking Pacioretty finishes every opportunity.
I actually liked (for the most part) the way the rangers played in their own zone relative to the way they have been.
I actually think Hunwick has given them some solid hockey.
I wasn't really disappointed with how we played despite the result. The Canadiens have a good team - better than last year. And they're really hot right now.
Still, suck it pj and Spock.
with that said, couldn't help but notice another Regulation Loss from Brett. The guy defines mediocrity.
He's lacking something, I'm gonna call it heart..
He's lacking something, I'm gonna call it heart..
Is heart a synonym for pen15?
Yeah, your 'don't mention my name' shit was pathetic and childish. The whining brings down the quality of the threads. pj knows the game better than you, anyway.
MAB: I'm passing the puck for now. I had a game on Saturday so I watched on delay. Head's clearly not in it.