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BrettNYG10 : 10/25/2014 8:53 am
Duclair's playing tonight.

Fuck you pj. Fuck Chris Chelios. Fuck you Spock.

#lgr
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Bruins lose Bartkowski to injury in Toronto. ..  
MaineGiantFan : 10/25/2014 7:34 pm : link
Down to 5 on defense. How about trading McDonagh up to BOS ?
weak  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 7:41 pm : link
call.
worked  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 7:41 pm : link
out though
Hags!!!  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 7:52 pm : link
.
Hags!  
Mad Mike : 10/25/2014 7:52 pm : link
Man, that rebound came right to him.
Atta boy KK  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 8:28 pm : link
.
Tip of the hat to Klein  
bigbluehoya : 10/25/2014 8:28 pm : link
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Klein  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:31 pm : link
should gave got an instigator penalty.

Um  
Servo : 10/25/2014 8:38 pm : link
There is no way in hell that is worthy of an instigator. Klein engaged but they dropped the gloves together.
instigator  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:39 pm : link
doesn't have to drop the gloves first, it's about intent.

doesn't matter.

you just can't let PK Subban shoot.
RE: Klein  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 8:39 pm : link
In comment 11939885 pjcas18 said:
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should gave got an instigator penalty.


If you watched the replay without a biased eye you would have seen Klein skating over in a measured manner and Prust dropped his gloves well before Klein fully engaged. Nice try though.
Damm,  
Mad Mike : 10/25/2014 8:39 pm : link
That goal should probably be waved off due to pj's absurd instigator whine.
Holy shit  
pganut : 10/25/2014 8:41 pm : link
Conacher is useless.
Whoops, wrong thread  
pganut : 10/25/2014 8:42 pm : link
But you're free to agree Conacher is useless. Carry on.
RE: RE: Klein  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:42 pm : link
In comment 11939904 Stufftherun said:
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In comment 11939885 pjcas18 said:


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should gave got an instigator penalty.




If you watched the replay without a biased eye you would have seen Klein skating over in a measured manner and Prust dropped his gloves well before Klein fully engaged. Nice try though.


LOL, ok, it was obvious to everyone on the planet Klein went in there for one reason, I'm watching the Rangers broadcast and they were pretty much admitting it too.
RE: Damm,  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:43 pm : link
In comment 11939905 Mad Mike said:
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That goal should probably be waved off due to pj's absurd instigator whine.


my whine, which was just an observation, is countered double-time by Phil in LA and stuff the run
No  
Servo : 10/25/2014 8:44 pm : link
Objective observer would think that was an instigator. The intent was mutual.
I don't remember  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 8:44 pm : link
speaking to you, so don't drop my name.
RE: I don't remember  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:45 pm : link
In comment 11939913 Phil in LA said:
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speaking to you, so don't drop my name.


you write something on a public message board it's public domain so stop being a vagina
Stop using other people's names  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 8:47 pm : link
if you don't want to hear from them.
I didn't  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:48 pm : link
complain about hearing from you. I don't give a shit what you say or if I hear from you.
if you don't give a shit  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 8:49 pm : link
don't mention me. Doesn't make sense.
RE: RE: RE: Klein  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 8:50 pm : link
In comment 11939909 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 11939904 Stufftherun said:


Quote:


In comment 11939885 pjcas18 said:


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should gave got an instigator penalty.




If you watched the replay without a biased eye you would have seen Klein skating over in a measured manner and Prust dropped his gloves well before Klein fully engaged. Nice try though.



LOL, ok, it was obvious to everyone on the planet Klein went in there for one reason, I'm watching the Rangers broadcast and they were pretty much admitting it too.


your absurd and exaggerated interpretation of just about everything is embarrassing even for a panty wearing Canadiens fan like yourself.

First, where did I say that Klein had no intent on fighting and 2nd, why don't you enlighten us all on the instigator rule and more importantly how you would interpret that rule?
you complained about the officiating  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:51 pm : link
I was chastised for doing the same.

that is all. I'll reference anyone who posts anything on any thread.

you don't want your comments referenced, don't make them.

hopefully that makes sense to you.
I didn't complain  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 8:54 pm : link
I said McDonagh was slew footed, which he was, by PA Parrenteu and ther was no call. That is what happened. I didn't complain about it. The truth is not a complaint. They got schools where you come from?
The instigator rule  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:55 pm : link
is pretty simple, for those of you unfamiliar with hockey outside of June (most of this thread it seems) I'll post it for you.

if you don't think what Klein did satisfies several of these criteria - then just admit you're biased and we'll move on or just don't comment on stuff when you don't know what you're talking about. Notice ANY or SOME of the following.

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46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
RE: I didn't complain  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 8:56 pm : link
In comment 11939932 Phil in LA said:
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I said McDonagh was slew footed, which he was, by PA Parrenteu and ther was no call. That is what happened. I didn't complain about it. The truth is not a complaint. They got schools where you come from?


And I commented Klein should have received an instigator penalty, also a fact, and I casually mentioned it, didn't cry about it, harp on it, or anything else, and I was branded a whiner.

Same school you're from.
doubt  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 8:57 pm : link
it.
jesus  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 9:01 pm : link
you guys are cranky tonight I guess I'm an easy target. I'll let you guys battle among yourselves like will eventually happen (and I need to put my kids to bed). So have fun.

I'll leave you with this:

it's a great game so far. Henrik is keeping the Rangers in (some great 2nd period saves), Price is keeping the Habs in.

If Girardi played like this in the finals, the Rangers might be the reigning stanley cup champs right now. Not sure what was wrong with him (fatigue?), he looks like a totally different player
RE: The instigator rule  
Servo : 10/25/2014 9:02 pm : link
Right, we're the ones who are biased because we've watched enough NHL hockey that we know that the instigator rule is never applied in cases like this. Klein engaged in manner that happens after a hit many times a game. There was no scrap until Prust dropped his gloves.

I gotta hand it to you PJ's ...  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 9:04 pm : link
you were right, there should have been an instigator penalty only it should have been called on Prust for "gloves off first" ....

If you really think that warranted an instigator penalty I guess you're smarter than all of us including the officials standing just a few feet away from it all.

Keep up it up though, you're truly amusing us all here.

Girardi  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 9:07 pm : link
got injured in the playoffs last year, but he never sits and it hurt. This version of Nash would have meant the Cup, too.
The House of Horrors  
Anakim : 10/25/2014 9:25 pm : link
.
Good job getting back  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 9:26 pm : link
but inexplicably Staal puts himself out of position to make a play on the puck or the man.
Been thinking about it for a few minutes now  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2014 9:28 pm : link
Still don't know what the hell Staal was doing on that goal.
What adds insult to injury  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2014 9:30 pm : link
Is seeing that useless fucking hump Weise out there on both of the last two goals.
Weise  
Spock : 10/25/2014 9:34 pm : link
Has not been useless on our team. Sorry if he was on yours. Maybe it was the coach, the system, the teammates, but in Montreal, he is a very effective 4th liner and sometimes more when asked.
Gotta give it to Carey Price  
Anakim : 10/25/2014 9:36 pm : link
He's been amazing tonight
damn  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2014 9:36 pm : link
Great chance but a great save by Price
Oh, and pj  
Spock : 10/25/2014 9:38 pm : link
It sure looked like it to me that he violated the instigator rule, but for some reason, there is no uniformity regarding the interpretation of that rule, so it is what it is.m
Rangers  
Phil in LA : 10/25/2014 9:41 pm : link
can't control the puck tonight.
There really isn't a worse fanbase than Montreal's  
Anakim : 10/25/2014 9:42 pm : link
Flyers obviously have a bunch of low-life scum as fans and the Penguins fans are front-runners, but holy shit, Canadiens' fans bitch, whine, moan and cry about everything. If a Canadians player trips, they'll bitch that it's a penalty.
And really? You're going to keep replaying a commercial about a car  
Anakim : 10/25/2014 9:44 pm : link
salesman named Beaner?
RE: Oh, and pj  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 9:48 pm : link
In comment 11939982 Spock said:
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It sure looked like it to me that he violated the instigator rule, but for some reason, there is no uniformity regarding the interpretation of that rule, so it is what it is.m


I didn't expect them to call it, and i wasn't complaining about it, but yeah, technically, that's the rule.

Price is the story so far, I hope he stays healthy, the Canadiens have a solid team, but they'll go as far as he takes them.
I haven't seen  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 9:50 pm : link
Duclair play, he's going to be really good.

bah  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2014 9:51 pm : link
Frustrating game. Never could see to generate consistent pressure.
Let's take a closer look ...  
Stufftherun : 10/25/2014 9:55 pm : link
46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria:

Distance traveled: Maybe 10 feet ..,not flying and screaming from the blue line like Ogie Ogelthorpe

Gloves off first; Prust

First punch thrown; Sure looked like Prust

Menacing attitude or posture; Sure, Arc coined the nickname Evil Stralman but if you re-watch Klein's body language it was not that of a wild animal pouncing on his prey

Verbal instigation or threats; Don't think there was any jawing like we see on a faceoff prior to gloves being dropped

Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply

Well, there you have it lady Hab's fans but then again I'm sure you'll bowl us all over with your interpretation and hockey acumen.
Zuccs is absolutely snakebitten. Higgins-esque  
Anakim : 10/25/2014 9:56 pm : link
He'll get it going soon, but it's frustrating to see
are you seriously trying to convince yourself  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 10:05 pm : link
that Klein didn't go after Prust because of the hit on Zuccarello?

Holy fuckingidiotshitballs

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Conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season. Hope we can agree this does not apply


that's exactly the reason he came over there. Are you blind, stupid, a homer, or all three?

even the announcers said he came to the aid and defended his teammate. you cannot be serious can you?

Pj  
Spock : 10/25/2014 10:08 pm : link
I agree, if Price can stay healthy we can go all the way because he is capable of carrying us when outplayed. However, I like our balance this year, plus we are no longer filled with smurfs, getting rid of Gionta and Briere.
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