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SanFranGiantsFan : 10/25/2014 10:33 am
Not a great slate of games.

#1 Miss. State @ Kentucky @ 3:30 on CBS.
#3 Ole Miss in Death Valley to face LSU at 7:15 on ESPN. That should be a good one.
#4 'Bama @ the 3-4 Vols. Kiffin returns to Knoxville. This is on ESPN at 7:30.
#13 OSU in Happy Valley to face the Nittany Lions at 8 on ABC.
#20 USC at Fassel's old stomping grounds, #19 Utah. This is on Fox Sports 1 at 10.

ND has a bye, returning to action next Saturday in Landover, MD to face Navy.
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now  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:38 pm : link
because PSU spiked it for no reason they have to kick a field goal.
RE: Did  
dep026 : 10/25/2014 11:38 pm : link
In comment 11940149 MookGiants said:
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that really just happen? Is this real life?


He spiked it because he didnt have everyone on the same page and didnt want to take the delay of game penalty. It was actually a smart play. There was only like 4 seconds on the playclock and he didnt have the audibles done.
delay  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:39 pm : link
of game penalty was a better option than spiking it. You dont give up a down for 5 yards
RE: delay  
Audible : 10/25/2014 11:44 pm : link
In comment 11940153 MookGiants said:
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of game penalty was a better option than spiking it. You dont give up a down for 5 yards


Given this refereeing crew, the penalty for delay of game could be 15 yards, or 50 yards, or a forfeit. They could have ruled the spike a fumble and I wouldn't be surprised. (KG voice) ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
Truth  
Audible : 10/25/2014 11:48 pm : link
hell of a comeback  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:52 pm : link
by Penn State. They deserve to win this football game after getting screwed early in the game. I hope they finish off, and if they do I'm immediately going to take a shower to wipe the filth off of me
Lol  
Patrick77 : 10/25/2014 11:56 pm : link
Way to play the read option
how  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:56 pm : link
is this penalty enforced?
Penn State will find a way to blow it  
Jints in Carolina : 10/25/2014 11:57 pm : link
and i think they just did.
No  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:57 pm : link
Nessler, they will not start at the 40. Ohio State will start at the 12.5
any personal foul is enforced afer a point after attempt  
Jints in Carolina : 10/25/2014 11:57 pm : link
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RE: any personal foul is enforced afer a point after attempt  
MookGiants : 10/25/2014 11:58 pm : link
In comment 11940169 Jints in Carolina said:
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Ohio State could have taken it there and gone for 2, i know they wouldnt do that but could have.

I was just curious if you were able to enforce it onto the next overtime, ive never seen that so didnt know
on the defense of course  
Jints in Carolina : 10/25/2014 11:58 pm : link
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if Penn State scores  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 12:03 am : link
they should go for two.
Penn State does what Penn State usually does  
Jints in Carolina : 10/26/2014 12:08 am : link
blow it.
I know they got it to overtime  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 12:09 am : link
but spiking the ball instead of taking a 5 yard penalty cost them a down and potentially cost them the game. No way is 5 yards more valuable than a down there
imagine Notre Dame getting the nod for the playoff  
B in ALB : 10/26/2014 12:34 am : link
Because other teams have one loss as well. What a joke. Wouldn't be surprised though. Considering the NCAA is a fucking clown show. IM sure Condalezza Rice will clock this whole thing correctly thank God.
Why  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 12:38 am : link
would it be a joke? They went toe to toe on the road with one team that will be in the playoff and won the title last year. If they go 11-1, it will not be a joke if they get in.
The potential  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 12:40 am : link
one loss team that I think would be a complete joke if they got in is Ohio State. Everyone else potentially would have a pretty decent case. Ohio State lost at home to a miserable Virginia Tech team, they're out regardless imo.

This atmosphere in Utah is nuts. The camera is shaking
I don't think ND is very good  
B in ALB : 10/26/2014 1:02 am : link
They haven't beaten anyone. Stanford at home by 3 I guess but they're a 5-3 team that got nutted by Arizona State and isn't in contention for anything at this point.

Florida state beat them and they're full of holes across the board.

There is no clear cut head and shoulders championship team this year. Obviously.

That said, I'll take Mississippi State, Alabama, Auburn, Michigan State, Oregon, and either TCU or Baylor at this point.

East Carolina vs Notre Dame would be a great game in the Capital One Bowl. Go Pirates.
Who  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:05 am : link
has Michigan State beaten?
FSU  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:07 am : link
hasn't lost a game since 2012, returned the Heisman trophy winner after winning it all last year, and somehow they have holes everywhere. Funny.
Todd Graham  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:13 am : link
made a poor decision going back to Kelly after the way the backup was playing, Kelly looks awful tonight
Kessler  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:16 am : link
missed a wide open 3rd and 2 to seal the game, going for it on 4th and 2.

Now Algholor steps out of bounds on 4th and 2 and Utah gets the ball back with 2:08 to go, 1 timeout left.

On Fox Sports 1 for those around
RE: FSU  
B in ALB : 10/26/2014 1:25 am : link
In comment 11940193 MookGiants said:
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hasn't lost a game since 2012, returned the Heisman trophy winner after winning it all last year, and somehow they have holes everywhere. Funny.


Come on. Their d line isn't great anymore. The defensive backfield is questionable against elite receivers, their offensive backfield is in complete disarray and the best parts of their team are the TE and the kicker.

You mean to tell me that Winston is a championship QB again? No way.
Winston  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:30 am : link
isn't a championship QB now? Huh? Did you happen to watch him in the 2nd half last week?

Yeah, he's an idiot. But when he's on the field he's still awesome.
speaking of idiots  
Jints in Carolina : 10/26/2014 1:31 am : link
USC....HAHAHAHAHAHA
if they called  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:32 am : link
that Utah touchdown the way they did last week Utah gets called for offensive PI, but you'll never hear a word about that from the media.
USC  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:32 am : link
losing is not good for ND. I want to enjoy them losing but ND wants them to be as highly ranked as possible going into it. Utah is a damn good team but this one will not help ND
not offensive interference huh?  
MookGiants : 10/26/2014 1:36 am : link
I guess it only has to be called if ND is playing..

RE: Winston  
B in ALB : 10/26/2014 1:38 am : link
In comment 11940198 MookGiants said:
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isn't a championship QB now? Huh? Did you happen to watch him in the 2nd half last week?

Yeah, he's an idiot. But when he's on the field he's still awesome.


I guess we'll see Mook.

In the meantime who the fuck is the female sideline reporter for Fox interviewing Williangham right now. Smoking.
RE: not offensive interference huh?  
section125 : 10/26/2014 7:47 am : link
In comment 11940203 MookGiants said:
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I guess it only has to be called if ND is playing..



Hahaha - Mook, you need to have two blocking WRs to get called for the illegal pick.

But I do think that is PI.
Tally PD  
BigBlueCane : 10/27/2014 4:16 pm : link
is now investigating the Karlos Williams domestic abuse situation.

so there's that.
RE: Tally PD  
section125 : 10/27/2014 5:43 pm : link
In comment 11942842 BigBlueCane said:
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is now investigating the Karlos Williams domestic abuse situation.

so there's that.


Just got an asshat tip. Apparently the young lady in question is pissed that Karlos has a new girlfriend and threaten both the new girl and he that she would ruin their lives. Investigation going on since last week. They already have one child and she has a 2nd on on the way.

I'm skeptical this about getting insider tips because they generally come from people's friends but this one seems to have some teeth.
well this isn't a good look for her  
BigBlueCane : 10/27/2014 6:08 pm : link
RE: Tally PD  
Patrick77 : 10/27/2014 8:40 pm : link
In comment 11942842 BigBlueCane said:
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is now investigating the Karlos Williams domestic abuse situation.

so there's that.


Wonder if they purposely botch this one too.
he's also wanted for questioning in an armed robbery  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 4:27 am : link
Back in June.
Link. - ( New Window )
oh, BTW Cane, did you catch the UVA-UNC game?  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2014 8:41 am : link
I dare you to watch the last five minutes of that one and tell me Mike London isn't worse than Al Golden.
greg  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 11:56 am : link
Want me to produce Al Golden's post game press conferences where he blames everyone but his BFF? Or the lengthy list of stats that prove his incompetence?



The only reason Miami looks any different now is Golden is coaching for his job.

And there's a very good chance that Golden will lose to both UNC and UVA.
London did the same thing  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2014 12:07 pm : link
I said exactly that earlier in the thread - a whiny, self-serving postgame press conference where he cried about a lack of execution.....in a game that was lost because a)Larry Fedora noticed that the UVA kick return team was turning around before the kick, but Londo didn't b)12 men on the fucking field on a late UNC FG attempt, giving them a first down and letting them run out the clock. Two massive coaching blunders.

On the bright side, it wasn't as bad as when he let the clock run down against Tek two years ago when we had all three timeouts remaining.
Don't do this Greg  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 3:48 pm : link
London is a thousand times better then Golden.
Not in a million  
MookGiants : 10/28/2014 3:50 pm : link
years would I take London over Golden
I can accept that they are roughly equal on the shittiness scale  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2014 3:52 pm : link
But Mike London is one of the worst head coaches I've ever seen. See what you guys did to the Hokies? Now watch what we do - we'll make them look like worldbeaters.
and I guarantee you  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 3:59 pm : link
that we're gonna make UNC and UVA look like world beaters.

Hell look at what we did for Paul Johnson's offense.
fun fact  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2014 4:00 pm : link
Mike London is 1-13 in his career versus UNC, Duke and VT. Seriously. 1-13.

From 2012-14, UVA has gone 7-25 against FBS teams. Five of those seven wins were by 5 points or less. We've won one road game in three seasons.
RE: and I guarantee you  
MookGiants : 10/28/2014 4:01 pm : link
In comment 11945230 BigBlueCane said:
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that we're gonna make UNC and UVA look like world beaters.

Hell look at what we did for Paul Johnson's offense.


Didn't Miami just a few weeks ago beat Duke pretty easily? Duke is a pretty good football team
.  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 4:02 pm : link
- Golden 0-9 vs teams that finished ranked while at UM

- Golden 0-11 vs teams that finished ranked in his career

- 1-22 against teams that had less than 5 losses in a season
They beat Duke  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 4:06 pm : link
by playing uncharacteristically aggressive defense. Duke also isn't very good this year in terms of talent.
no, Duke isn't a particularly talented team  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2014 4:10 pm : link
Yet they beat UVA.

You can do all those same stats for London. The only team he's ever beaten that finished the season ranked was FSU in 2011, and they were only #23.
greg  
BigBlueCane : 10/28/2014 4:46 pm : link
Golden’s record versus ranked team since he’s been a head coach. Overall record 3-12
At Miami, Golden is 7-12 against teams with winning records. It is important to note that of these teams who finished with winning records, only 1 of these teams has finished better than 7-6. That was Georgia Tech in 2011 who finished 8-5. Shannon posted a record of 12-18 against teams who finished the season with a winning record. Still very mediocre, but much better than what Golden has posted overall.

- Overall, Al Golden is 11-37 versus team have who finished the season with winning records, and of those 11 wins, only 3 have finished above 7-6 (Georgia Tech 2011, Connecticut 2010, and Navy 2009).




I will take London over Golden every day and twice on Saturday.
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