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NFT:Was this the greatest game in New York playoff history

NYBEN : 10/25/2014 5:46 pm
On this day in 1986 game six of the world series Met vs. Redsox. Was there ever anything more dramatic in New York post season history? Superbowl 25?1990 NFC Championship game? Superbowl 42? 2011 NFC Championship game? The Willis Reed Knicks? As much as I love all of the Giants Superbowls and playoff wins this game has a really special place at the top of the list for me..I just loved the '86 Mets. Damn 1986 was a helluva year
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It was an amazing year  
mrvax : 10/25/2014 6:24 pm : link
and that was from what I've seen the most unlikely baseball comeback in a must win game ever, for me.

I've lost caring about MLB so it seems so long ago.

Nothing will ever top Willis Reed  
Rocky Thompson : 10/25/2014 6:44 pm : link

He came onto the floor for warm ups and owned the Lakers from that point. Scored 2 baskets, Walt was inspired, the Garden was the 6th man because of Willis. Will never be anything like it again...
Funny thing  
Rocky Thompson : 10/25/2014 6:52 pm : link

Guy that coached against my son last night in baseball was wearing green Red Sox attire. I figured he was a Pats fan as well, I had on my Giants sweatshirt. I happened to mention that he was my bitch and we hoped Brady could get there again so we would be assured of another SB victory, he laughed, begrudgingly but had no comeback. I told him that I didn't even bring up Billy Buckner yet and he scurried away. I did manage to get in that we both shared a hatred of the Yankees but I don't think he believed me. Great way to end the Fall season, long live Mookie Wilson...
RE: It was an amazing year  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 6:58 pm : link
In comment 11939734 mrvax said:
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and that was from what I've seen the most unlikely baseball comeback in a must win game ever, for me.

I've lost caring about MLB so it seems so long ago.


Thought I was the only one ..I was a die-hard Mets fan from the age of 6 years old. But now honestly I haven't really cared since they fired Willie Randolph. I want to get excited about them but just can't...not like before anyway.
The Giants beat...  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/25/2014 7:18 pm : link
...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???
RE: The Giants beat...  
Jints in Carolina : 10/25/2014 7:29 pm : link
In comment 11939788 Gatorade Dunk said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???


LMAO no shit
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MaineGiantFan : 10/25/2014 7:44 pm : link
In comment 11939803 Jints in Carolina said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???



LMAO no shit
Ditto
RE: The Giants beat...  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 7:49 pm : link
In comment 11939788 Gatorade Dunk said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???


You will not get a argument out of me on that, but when you look at that game 6 and the way the Mets came back in the bottom of the 9th it was just unbelievable. Not sure if you remember but the Shea stadium scoreboard had already congratulated the 1986 world series champion Boston RedSox. Yes the magnitude of beating the Pats may have been bigger overall but the game 6 IMO was much more dramatic and amazing...Love them both of course
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SanFranGiantsFan : 10/25/2014 7:51 pm : link
In comment 11939827 MaineGiantFan said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???



LMAO no shit

Ditto



LOL. Ditto 2. Giants beating an undefeated Patriots team is number 1 with a bullet.
RE: RE: The Giants beat...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/25/2014 7:55 pm : link
In comment 11939832 NYBEN said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???



You will not get a argument out of me on that, but when you look at that game 6 and the way the Mets came back in the bottom of the 9th it was just unbelievable. Not sure if you remember but the Shea stadium scoreboard had already congratulated the 1986 world series champion Boston RedSox. Yes the magnitude of beating the Pats may have been bigger overall but the game 6 IMO was much more dramatic and amazing...Love them both of course


Game 6 was more dramatic than being down 7-3 going into the 4th in Super Bowl 42?
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jpkmets : 10/25/2014 8:00 pm : link
In comment 11939836 SanFranGiantsFan said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???



You will not get a argument out of me on that, but when you look at that game 6 and the way the Mets came back in the bottom of the 9th it was just unbelievable. Not sure if you remember but the Shea stadium scoreboard had already congratulated the 1986 world series champion Boston RedSox. Yes the magnitude of beating the Pats may have been bigger overall but the game 6 IMO was much more dramatic and amazing...Love them both of course



Game 6 was more dramatic than being down 7-3 going into the 4th in Super Bowl 42?


yes
Two nights later, the Mets won the World Series  
JohnB : 10/25/2014 8:01 pm : link
and the Giants beat the Redskins 27-20 on MNF. When the Mets won, they stopped the Giants game and cheered. A great night if there ever was one.
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Mad Mike : 10/25/2014 8:05 pm : link
In comment 11939836 SanFranGiantsFan said:
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Game 6 was more dramatic than being down 7-3 going into the 4th in Super Bowl 42?

That seems like a strange comment. Whatever one considers the greatest playoff game, is overcoming a 7-3 deficit with a quarter to go particularly dramatic? It certainly isn't as dramatic as being down 2, with no one on, down to your last out. Not really much comparison there.

Now, needing a TD with under 3 to play is a better comparison. The Mets' odds were still longer, but the Giants winning drive was certainly the stuff legends are made of.
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NYBEN : 10/25/2014 8:09 pm : link
In comment 11939836 SanFranGiantsFan said:
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...an UNDEFEATED Boston team in the Super Bowl and this is even a question on a Giants message board? Seriously???



You will not get a argument out of me on that, but when you look at that game 6 and the way the Mets came back in the bottom of the 9th it was just unbelievable. Not sure if you remember but the Shea stadium scoreboard had already congratulated the 1986 world series champion Boston RedSox. Yes the magnitude of beating the Pats may have been bigger overall but the game 6 IMO was much more dramatic and amazing...Love them both of course



Game 6 was more dramatic than being down 7-3 going into the 4th in Super Bowl 42?


You must not remember that game 6...the Mets were down in the series 3-2 and the Mets were down 2 runs with 2 outs in the bottom of the 10th inning and they scored 3 runs to win it. And then went on to win the series in game 7
Umm, actually  
Rocky Thompson : 10/25/2014 8:09 pm : link

Beating Brady at 18-0 was a life changing experience but it doesn' t compare to beating the Lakers with Jerry West, Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain with a hobbled Willis Reed.

I love Eli and the Giant Snatch as much as anyone but if you were a Knick fan then when the Giants sucked pond scum and needed the league to assign a GM to make us relevant again it was what we dreamed of.

Absolutely arguable from those of you too young to remember but not comparable to those of us that lived it.

That said, long live Mark Bavaro, he made us proud to be Giant fans...
As far as the Mets  
Rocky Thompson : 10/25/2014 8:13 pm : link

They were Amazing, loved every minute of it but the Knicks ruled.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking anything away from the Amazins but if you ask what was the greatest playoff game in NY history, it was Willis and the Knicks...
RE: Two nights later, the Mets won the World Series  
ChathamMark : 10/25/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11939843 JohnB said:
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and the Giants beat the Redskins 27-20 on MNF. When the Mets won, they stopped the Giants game and cheered. A great night if there ever was one.


I was at that Monday Night Football game. Quite a surreal experience. Of course this is before smartphones and such. MANY people had little battery powered TV's, watching the World Series game with people looking over their shoulders. Pretty sure something good happened in the World Series game, everyone cheered, and the Redskins jumped offsides at one point. Fond memory!
When  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 8:21 pm : link
your own stadium staff has given up and conceded the game any comeback after that is purely unbelievable and amazing and any other word you can think of
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Reed walking onto the floor is still my best playoff memory  
Mason : 10/25/2014 8:22 pm : link
Game 3 of 1996 World Series Yankees vs Braves was incredible.
1990 NFC Championship game is still my favorite football memory. Craig's fumble and setting up Bahr for the winning kick.
So, ok. All of history? Like every game ever? All the 30 or  
Moondwg : 10/25/2014 8:31 pm : link
whatever Yankee Series wins? Brooklyn Dodgers (not much history there in the playoffs, true), Baseball Giants, Rangers, Isles, Knicks?

Bobby Thompson's Pennant-winning homer?

Simms' best game ever to complete the Giants' coming back from the grave?

The Greatest Game ever Played?!?!

41-0?

How the hell to even make a decision like this?
RE: So, ok. All of history? Like every game ever? All the 30 or  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 8:35 pm : link
In comment 11939886 Moondwg said:
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whatever Yankee Series wins? Brooklyn Dodgers (not much history there in the playoffs, true), Baseball Giants, Rangers, Isles, Knicks?

Bobby Thompson's Pennant-winning homer?

Simms' best game ever to complete the Giants' coming back from the grave?

The Greatest Game ever Played?!?!

41-0?

How the hell to even make a decision like this?


How about your personal favorite or the one that even though you know how it ends you're still scared to watch it.
Moondwg  
Rocky Thompson : 10/25/2014 8:50 pm : link

Are you the Viking composer?

It's not really a decision, I mean, everyone has their opinion but there will never be anything in all of sports, anywhere, anytime, to have the impact that Willis beating the Lakers had. It changed the economy, it changed New York, it was that big.
I don't mean to argue with anyone here, Lord knows I need a reason to put the Mets in the spotlight, just wished you could have shared it, I honestly don't think that anyone who lived it would think any different...
wait  
B in ALB : 10/25/2014 8:57 pm : link
A guy makes a completely unbelievable error by letting a slow rolling ball go between his legs leading to a win by the home team is your first choice as greatest playoff win in NY history?

You smoked PCP tonight right?
RE: wait  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 9:05 pm : link
In comment 11939938 B in ALB said:
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A guy makes a completely unbelievable error by letting a slow rolling ball go between his legs leading to a win by the home team is your first choice as greatest playoff win in NY history?

You smoked PCP tonight right?


LOL!!! If that is all you remember about that game ..I'm not sure what to tell you. But to say that all it came down to was the ball rolling between Bill Buckner's legs is just ignorant.
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section125 : 10/25/2014 9:25 pm : link
In comment 11939945 NYBEN said:
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A guy makes a completely unbelievable error by letting a slow rolling ball go between his legs leading to a win by the home team is your first choice as greatest playoff win in NY history?

You smoked PCP tonight right?



LOL!!! If that is all you remember about that game ..I'm not sure what to tell you. But to say that all it came down to was the ball rolling between Bill Buckner's legs is just ignorant.


Sorry that IS how the game is remembered - an unbelievable error.

Nothing the Mets have done is anywhere near the greatest game in NY playoff history as Moondwg pointed out (unless you are a Mets fan only).
RE: RE: wait  
Jints in Carolina : 10/25/2014 9:27 pm : link
In comment 11939945 NYBEN said:
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A guy makes a completely unbelievable error by letting a slow rolling ball go between his legs leading to a win by the home team is your first choice as greatest playoff win in NY history?

You smoked PCP tonight right?



LOL!!! If that is all you remember about that game ..I'm not sure what to tell you. But to say that all it came down to was the ball rolling between Bill Buckner's legs is just ignorant.


I must be ignorant then.
That inning  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 9:35 pm : link
was so much more than the Buckner error. The Mets were down 2 runs with 2 out before getting their first hit of the inning, and twice they were down to their last strike. Gary Carter's hit came with 2 strikes on him as did Kevin Mitchell's. Mookie Wilson had a 11 pitch at bat fouling off pitch after pitch before that ground ball. Even if Buckner fields the ball cleanly he probably doesn't throw out the speedy Wilson and even if he did the game would have been tied going into the 11th and there is no way Boston recovers from blowing that lead the way they did.
FYI  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 9:36 pm : link
Here's a link for those of you that wasn't around or may have forgotten how special that game was
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RE: RE: wait  
B in ALB : 10/25/2014 9:37 pm : link
In comment 11939945 NYBEN said:
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In comment 11939938 B in ALB said:


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A guy makes a completely unbelievable error by letting a slow rolling ball go between his legs leading to a win by the home team is your first choice as greatest playoff win in NY history?

You smoked PCP tonight right?



LOL!!! If that is all you remember about that game ..I'm not sure what to tell you. But to say that all it came down to was the ball rolling between Bill Buckner's legs is just ignorant.


Bwahahaha! Are you fucking serious? Buckner makes that play 999/1000. It took THAT absurdity for the Mets to win.

Delusional.
in other words  
B in ALB : 10/25/2014 9:39 pm : link
The Sox lost that game more than the Mets won it.

To think otherwise is mental patient-esque.
game was tied when Buckner  
jpkmets : 10/25/2014 9:49 pm : link
missed that ball.

Mets were in good shape even had the inning ended.
RE: in other words  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 9:51 pm : link
In comment 11939986 B in ALB said:
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The Sox lost that game more than the Mets won it.

To think otherwise is mental patient-esque.


Your logic is not only flawed but it's stupid...they were down 2 runs with 2 out, they got consecutive hits to get in position for the tying and go ahead runs. How long have you bee watching sports? In all sports more games are lost than won it happens some teams handle pressure other do not. The 86 Mets thrived under pressure..that's what made them great. To not acknowledge what that game meant in New York sports history is just flat out asinine, whether you think it was the best or not. But to be flat out dismissive of it is absolute lunacy.
RE: in other words  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2014 9:53 pm : link
In comment 11939986 B in ALB said:
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The Sox lost that game more than the Mets won it.

To think otherwise is mental patient-esque.


One of the dumbest things I've read on BBI in a long time. The Bills lost the SB, the Giants didn't win by that logic, it's like something you hear from a 2nd grader.
I'm a NYG, Yankee, rangers and Knicks did hard fan  
djm : 10/25/2014 10:09 pm : link
And for me the most amazing moment in ny sports history was the mets Red Sox game 6.

There have been bigger wins. There have been better postseason runs, 2007 NYG comes to mind, but for me that moment when the mets were down to their last out in game 6 was just ridiculously dramatic. I was absolutely losing my mind watching that inning unfold and I was a Yankees fan.
RE: in other words  
djm : 10/25/2014 10:11 pm : link
In comment 11939986 B in ALB said:
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The Sox lost that game more than the Mets won it.

To think otherwise is mental patient-esque.


That's a load of crap. Don't be that guy. The mets most definitely won that shit. They were down to their last out and didn't quit. That game and series was over once the mets tied it.

Don't be a hater.
There have been better games I guess  
djm : 10/25/2014 10:18 pm : link
But for sheer sports drama it's hard to top postseason baseball. You live and die with every pitch. The drama and stress is unmatched.

It's hard to say which game was the most dramatic or the best but game 6 mets sox will always get a lot of love and it damn well should. That kind of World Series game has never ever happened in ny sports and probably never will.

The giants have themselves played in and won 3 dramatic Super Bowls. How many World Series games went down like game 6 ? How many in NYC? Not one that I can think of and if it did it was 50 years ago.

Not taking away anything from Super Bowl 25 or 42 or 46 or Yankees sox 2003 or rangers devils game 6-7... All amazing to be sure but that 9th inning was ridiculous.
RE: There have been better games I guess  
NYBEN : 10/25/2014 10:29 pm : link
In comment 11940058 djm said:
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But for sheer sports drama it's hard to top postseason baseball. You live and die with every pitch. The drama and stress is unmatched.

It's hard to say which game was the most dramatic or the best but game 6 mets sox will always get a lot of love and it damn well should. That kind of World Series game has never ever happened in ny sports and probably never will.

The giants have themselves played in and won 3 dramatic Super Bowls. How many World Series games went down like game 6 ? How many in NYC? Not one that I can think of and if it did it was 50 years ago.

Not taking away anything from Super Bowl 25 or 42 or 46 or Yankees sox 2003 or rangers devils game 6-7... All amazing to be sure but that 9th inning was ridiculous.


Like you I also had forgotten that it was the 10th inning and not the 9th which made it even more dramatic.
I hate to say this  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/25/2014 10:35 pm : link
as a Giants fan.

Willy Joe and the Jets, from a second rate league beating the Colts.

Kicks, Rangers, Mets and Jets world champions in one year.

Great year to be a high school senior in the metropolitan NY area.
Yes  
Route 9 in LEH : 10/25/2014 10:45 pm : link
February 3, 2008 Giants win 17-14 over 18-0 Patriots. It's only been 6 years and we're forgetting how amazing that was already?

Also, what is this "Met" thing you bring up? Whatever it is, sounds like a colossal waste of time.

Game 6 of the 1986 WS not only wasn't the greatest in NY history,  
81_Great_Dane : 10/26/2014 1:50 am : link
it wasn't even the greatest playoff game the Mets played that season. Game 6 of the Houston series was better by far. It wasn't close. If you lived in Manhattan that October, you probably have a great story about NLCS game 6. WS game 6, not so much.

Given the number of epic postseason baseball games played by the NY Giants, Brooklyn Dodgers, Yankees and Mets,
and the great games played by the football Giants, and the Jets stunning upset of the Colts,
and the Knicks and Rangers occasional but memorable playoff successes,
and the Islanders dynasty, and the Devils' great playoff runs,
I bet you could find 10 games better than the E3 Game 6.
RE: RE: in other words  
B in ALB : 10/26/2014 1:58 am : link
In comment 11940008 pjcas18 said:
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The Sox lost that game more than the Mets won it.

To think otherwise is mental patient-esque.



One of the dumbest things I've read on BBI in a long time. The Bills lost the SB, the Giants didn't win by that logic, it's like something you hear from a 2nd grader.


Would it have been better if Ray Knight dove across the plate like a Canadien on the ice? That game is known for Buckner, not the Mets. Stop it.
The game was already tied  
NYMase : 10/26/2014 3:03 am : link
and Mookie was beating it out anyway
1958 Giants vs Colts Sudden death Championship  
Big Blue '56 : 10/26/2014 8:29 am : link
then Willis Reed game 7..


I was at both
I wasn't around  
aquidneck : 10/26/2014 8:46 am : link
but the Bobby Thompson thing had to be pretty big at the time.

Anyway, I'm not a NY sports fan, only a (football) Giants fan, but this thread was a fun read. All great sports memories even if one was at the expense of the Red Sox.
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Well,  
Doomster : 10/26/2014 12:27 pm : link
can only comment on what I saw from the early '60s on....

When I think of sporting events, where I went spastic, it has to be Mantle hitting that walk off home run off of Shultz(even though they lost the series), Namath leading the Jets over the Colts, Secretariat winning the Belmont, the Knicks winning in 1970, and the Giants winning both SB's over the Pats.....

It comes down to the Knicks, and SB XLII....

I mean, the Giants go on the road and beat two teams they lost to during the regular season(by big scores), and then face the undefeated Pats in the SB, was just an amazing ride....

But so was that Knicks series final against the Lakers.....the Lakers had West, Baylor, Chamberlain, etc. At this point in time, the Knicks had never won anything.....it was always the Celtics or Lakers....

You just had to be there, or watching on TV, to see Willis limp out there to warm up......but there is more to this story.....

The Lakers had just won game #4 in overtime, series tied, 2 games a piece....

Fifth game is in the Garden.....this game, really set up the 7th game....Knicks start off well, have the lead, and Reed hurts his hip while falling early in the first quarter.....with him out of the game, and the Lakers leading by 16 points in the 3rd, the Knick defense takes over with a full court press, and the Knicks come from behind, with the crowd going crazy, and win the fifth game....

Chamberlain is really criticized by the Press, because he didn't take advantage of Debusschere guarding him....

Well, in the 6th game at LA, Chamberlain went wild on Debusschere, and the Lakers cruised to an easy victory....

Game #7, back at NY.....Reed is not out there with the rest of the Knicks in the early shoot around.....then he limps out there, and the place, like moi goes crazy.....Game starts, Reed is limping badly, but hit's his first shot, and the crowd goes wild......next time down the court, he hits his second shot.....the crowd is going nuts.....that crowd was the 6th man that day, as the Lakers were rattled.......Reed never hit another shot....Every time the Lakers went inside to Chamberlain, the Knick defense collapsed on him or stole the ball....Walt Frazier was unreal that game.....If ever a crowd won a championship for a team, it was this crowd.....

Have to go Kicks first, XLII second.....but it's almost too close to call....

Well put  
section125 : 10/26/2014 12:50 pm : link
Doomster. I would agree as the game as in the Garden, not Phoenix..
The 1990 NFC Championship Game  
pjcas18 : 10/26/2014 1:05 pm : link
IMO was a better playoff game than both of the recent Giants Super Bowls.

But as far as dramatic/greatest playoffs games goes for NY teams the Mets 1986 game 6 is definitely in the conversation.

It's rated as a top 5 greatest World Series game ever by most historians who have no bias - unlike many on here.
RE: That inning  
DaveFromNewMexico : 10/26/2014 4:04 pm : link
In comment 11939974 NYBEN said:
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Even if Buckner fields the ball cleanly he probably doesn't throw out the speedy Wilson and even if he did the game would have been tied going into the 11th and there is no way Boston recovers from blowing that lead the way they did.


Im not sure about that, the Mets were out of pitchers, Doug Sisk was going to be net into that game, not exactly Mr clutch. They might have been down 5 runs by their next AB
greatest game I ever watched  
djm : 10/27/2014 4:12 pm : link
from just a critic's POV would have to be the 90 NFC title game at the stick. The super bowl one week later was dwarfed by the NFC title game and the bowl was a classic in its own right.

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