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sphinx : 10/26/2014 9:30 am
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The number of American troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq between 2001 and 2012 was 6,488. The number of American women who were murdered by current or ex male partners during that time was 11,766. That's nearly double the amount of casualties lost during war.

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theres some low hanging fruit here.  
kepler20 : 10/26/2014 9:40 am : link
But really, sobering realities of violence of America.
there needs to be an awareness movement  
CromartiesKid21 : 10/26/2014 9:42 am : link
on this, that statistic is shocking.
I'm sure at least half of them  
buford : 10/26/2014 9:48 am : link
did something to trigger it....



Stephan Smith
RE: I'm sure at least half of them  
RC02XX : 10/26/2014 9:59 am : link
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did something to trigger it....



Stephan Smith


I think he's way underestimating that number.
Yeah, there's a problem  
ZogZerg : 10/26/2014 10:45 am : link
But I hate the comparison. Give me something meaningful like the percentage of domestic violence murders over the past ten years compared to the 10 years before that.
Zog  
steve in ky : 10/26/2014 6:59 pm : link
I think the comparison helps to highlight the problem. Most people had little tolerance for that many lives being lost in the war yet you barely hear any outrage over these lives lost. By more of us should demand for something to be done.
RE: Zog  
Dunedin81 : 10/26/2014 7:33 pm : link
In comment 11941026 steve in ky said:
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I think the comparison helps to highlight the problem. Most people had little tolerance for that many lives being lost in the war yet you barely hear any outrage over these lives lost. By more of us should demand for something to be done.


There is plenty of outrage, the problem is it's incredibly difficult to fix. You can't make victims go forward the first time, or the second time, or the third time, and unless there are witnesses, extrinsic evidence or admissions it is virtually impossible to prove without victim cooperation.
The problem is a lot bigger than domestic violence...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 10/26/2014 7:56 pm : link
and that is just ONE area where crime has increased significantly over the past few decades. This is not about "awareness". Not about guns or anything else.

In general, our society has deteriorated to the point where there is little concern for human life or for others. It all starts with the lack of discipline in schools and in the home. Parents are placing importance on things other than values. Kids are being raised by people who were also bad kids themselves and/or they see that behavior in their own homes and replicate it later. The only chance of getting set straight is at school but you cannot do that anymore either.

Not a chance in hell that the statistics start to improve.
RE: The problem is a lot bigger than domestic violence...  
Dunedin81 : 10/26/2014 8:26 pm : link
In comment 11941183 EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) said:
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and that is just ONE area where crime has increased significantly over the past few decades. This is not about "awareness". Not about guns or anything else.

In general, our society has deteriorated to the point where there is little concern for human life or for others. It all starts with the lack of discipline in schools and in the home. Parents are placing importance on things other than values. Kids are being raised by people who were also bad kids themselves and/or they see that behavior in their own homes and replicate it later. The only chance of getting set straight is at school but you cannot do that anymore either.

Not a chance in hell that the statistics start to improve.


That's largely bullshit. By most metrics violent crime has decreased significantly over the last several decades. If DV stats are on the rise it's because DV reporting is on the rise, which is a good thing. It went from being borderline socially acceptable among many people so long as it wasn't "excessive" to being unacceptable among just about everyone to put hands on a woman at all. If your point is that the lower rungs of the economic ladder also happen to be the rungs where DV is most prevalent, and they happen to be the rungs where birth rates are highest sure, and even though exposure to domestic violence at a young age increases the likelihood that one will become a perpetrator or a victim of the same in adulthood, it doesn't follow that such instances are happening more relative to population.
RE: RE: The problem is a lot bigger than domestic violence...  
ray in arlington : 10/26/2014 8:31 pm : link
In comment 11941217 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11941183 EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) said:


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and that is just ONE area where crime has increased significantly over the past few decades. This is not about "awareness". Not about guns or anything else.

In general, our society has deteriorated to the point where there is little concern for human life or for others. It all starts with the lack of discipline in schools and in the home. Parents are placing importance on things other than values. Kids are being raised by people who were also bad kids themselves and/or they see that behavior in their own homes and replicate it later. The only chance of getting set straight is at school but you cannot do that anymore either.

Not a chance in hell that the statistics start to improve.



That's largely bullshit. By most metrics violent crime has decreased significantly over the last several decades. If DV stats are on the rise it's because DV reporting is on the rise, which is a good thing. It went from being borderline socially acceptable among many people so long as it wasn't "excessive" to being unacceptable among just about everyone to put hands on a woman at all. If your point is that the lower rungs of the economic ladder also happen to be the rungs where DV is most prevalent, and they happen to be the rungs where birth rates are highest sure, and even though exposure to domestic violence at a young age increases the likelihood that one will become a perpetrator or a victim of the same in adulthood, it doesn't follow that such instances are happening more relative to population.


Here's an article saying that DV numbers are also down significantly.









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To Dunedin's point  
Rob in NYC : 10/26/2014 8:33 pm : link
the homicide rate per capita is the same as it was in 1960 and 1/2 of what it was in the 1980s.
are these big decreases in crime rates  
ray in arlington : 10/26/2014 8:35 pm : link
due to the aging of the population? So we'd get less crime per capita, but for the young crowd it would still be as dangerous?
RE: are these big decreases in crime rates  
Dunedin81 : 10/26/2014 8:47 pm : link
In comment 11941232 ray in arlington said:
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due to the aging of the population? So we'd get less crime per capita, but for the young crowd it would still be as dangerous?


There are a million and one reasons offered, everything from Roe v. Wade (popularized in Freakonomics) to increased incarceration rates (can't commit violent crimes in the community if you're in jail) to decreases in alcohol consumption and drug use, the recent surge in heroin use excepted.
Did you learn US history by watching Leave it to Beaver?  
Cam in MO : 10/26/2014 8:49 pm : link
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In general, our society has deteriorated to the point where there is little concern for human life or for others.


Human life has never, ever been valued as much as it is today- especially in this country. Fuck, life in general.

And violent crime has been decreasing since the 80's.

As an aside, the nostalgia for the "good old days"  
Rob in NYC : 10/26/2014 8:55 pm : link
Always confuses me - divorce was less socially acceptable, so men and women lived lives of quiet desperation and misery, homosexuals were forced to repress their sexually, but at least blacks were treated well...
Department of Justice - 1/31/02  
sphinx : 10/26/2014 9:04 pm : link
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Between 1976 and 1998, the number of male victims of intimate partner homicide fell an average of 4% per year and the number of female victims fell an average of 1%.


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RE: As an aside, the nostalgia for the  
Dunedin81 : 10/26/2014 9:11 pm : link
In comment 11941277 Rob in NYC said:
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Always confuses me - divorce was less socially acceptable, so men and women lived lives of quiet desperation and misery, homosexuals were forced to repress their sexually, but at least blacks were treated well...


Well let's not go too far, the middle class was much stronger, people as a whole reported themselves to be more happy and more optimistic than they are today. But yes, if you are/were black, gay, or a woman with professional aspirations you probably would prefer to live in this day and age.
So what am I supposed to do with the info  
Some Fan : 10/26/2014 9:24 pm : link
that some other dude killed his girlfriend? Who wants money? I am sure someone has a hand out.
Not to denigrate the issue  
ron in new mexico : 10/26/2014 9:53 pm : link
it is a important one of great concern….

but that is around a thousand a year.

Random stats which like most things found on the internet are about half true…

texting as in car accident cause per year…6000
Deaths by hippos globally yearly….2900
Auto erotic stuff…600 globally
falling out of bed in the US…..450 per year
Icicles in Russia per year….100
Traffic lights as in accidents….2000 us
deaths by mosquitos as in malaria globally….800.000
HS and college football…12 us
tripping falling….6000 us
raw meat complications…..6000 I think just in the US
cows in the us…..20

Not to trivilize it but it is interesting to see what kills people.
Another lovely stat I've seen on the subject  
Motley Blue : 10/26/2014 10:43 pm : link
is that the rate for committing spousal abuse is about 400% higher than the national average for men working in law enforcement.
Stats on that can be way hard to read  
ron in new mexico : 10/26/2014 10:59 pm : link
REason being for legal liability virtually all mainstream depts arrest any person who is accused when there is any evidence of a attack. They then leave it up to a judge but first a DA to sort it out.

So a large number are arrested but most don't go to trial. There is evidence of something happening but not enough to warrant a conviction for the charge..

So on this one thing really the stats have to come from a conviction not a accusation or arrest. Years ago PO's would not arrest someone then come back a hour or so later to a dead person. So now to prevent that they arrest quite often to prevent the one of a hundred times that occurs.
It helps and it is the right way to do it but it pushes the stats a bit in one way.

So it helps to have convictions on stat analysis.
i'm shocked it isn't higher  
RasputinPrime : 10/26/2014 11:09 pm : link
because the wars at home are far more prevalent.
Deferred adjudications are common...  
Dunedin81 : 10/26/2014 11:11 pm : link
depending on the jurisdiction. It helps to overcome the reluctant spouse problem by helping to satisfy her (usually her) desire that the abuser get help, not go to jail and not end up with something on a permanent record. And they seem to do a reasonably good job, perhaps not of rehabilitating folks but at least scaring them.
While that number is terrible  
Knineteen : 10/27/2014 12:16 am : link
the comparison to war is just stupid.
RE: As an aside, the nostalgia for the  
BMac : 10/27/2014 7:24 am : link
In comment 11941277 Rob in NYC said:
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Always confuses me - divorce was less socially acceptable, so men and women lived lives of quiet desperation and misery, homosexuals were forced to repress their sexually, but at least blacks were treated well...


Yeah, but at least you could call someone out into the street an see who was faster with his six-shooter!

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