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NFT: Hell In A Cell

BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/27/2014 9:34 am
Anyone watch last night? It was a pretty solid lineup, but they managed to screw up the last match.

I get why they brought Wyatt back to screw over Ambrose. I mean they want them to be heels, and they were so over as heels that were technically babyfaces probably because they fueded with Cena who no one likes. No better way to get people to hate them more then to have them attack the top face in the business right now.

I just wish they had done it during the Cena/Orton match. Now there is no conclusion to the Rollins/Ambrose fued.
Rollins/Ambrose can and should run into Wrestlemania  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/27/2014 9:39 am : link
It's the only thing really going with any talent and heat.
The ending, in theory was fine  
djl8699 : 10/27/2014 9:46 am : link
It's just that the execution was so damn awkward. Timing issues when it comes to booking has been a problem for a long time. I thought the Network was fuckin up on me again before the lights came back on. And even the Wyatt took so damn long to finish Ambrose.
stopped paying 9.99  
ZogZerg : 10/27/2014 10:05 am : link
Same matches for last 3 + months
and no title match Sunday
can't justify paying to watch same stuff over and over.
I didnt watch it last night  
BIG FRED : 10/27/2014 10:11 am : link
but i heard a hologram appeared is that true ? At least Wyatt is back as a main Heel .
RE: stopped paying 9.99  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/27/2014 10:14 am : link
In comment 11941708 ZogZerg said:
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Same matches for last 3 + months
and no title match Sunday
can't justify paying to watch same stuff over and over.


Yeah, I checked out last month. They're just not putting in the effort to make a good show.
I've long thought  
djl8699 : 10/27/2014 10:20 am : link
that they have to create a system to plausibly determine number 1 contenders for the title. It's just so arbitrary now. Basically it's "you and you fight for the title, or you and you fight for the number 1 contender spot." I mean Cena loses his title, gets his rematch, doesn't win it back and then is right back in the running for the title? Again? Three straight title matches pitting the same contestants together. It's just so damn stale and watered down, and needs a major overhaul. They can start by not having so many damn PPVs. I can deal with 6 PPVs per year, instead of 12-13 we have now.
No competition  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/27/2014 10:37 am : link
means they can just shove whatever they want down our throats.

I hope Ring of Honor gets a TV deal, so that they can get some legit competition.

I watched like 5 minutes of TNA the other night and it was terrible.
ROH  
BIG FRED : 10/27/2014 10:40 am : link
is not even on in NYC ,drives me crazy because i have been supporting them since their first show in 2002 .Those shows from 2002 - 2005 were awesome .
RE: ROH  
djl8699 : 10/27/2014 10:43 am : link
In comment 11941776 BIG FRED said:
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is not even on in NYC ,drives me crazy because i have been supporting them since their first show in 2002 .Those shows from 2002 - 2005 were awesome .


Was that when Jim Cornette was involved? He seems to have a great mind for wrestling psychology and development. But he's abrasive as hell, which is why he never lasts in a company.
Cornette came in  
BIG FRED : 10/27/2014 10:46 am : link
sometime in late 2005 .The early stuff was mostly some Legends ,ex ECW guys, northeast indy guys ,CM Punk and Shawn Michaels students
Even if ROH got a TV deal  
moespree : 10/27/2014 11:41 am : link
That put them in primetime on a weeknight during the week (which is doubtful) but even if they did, it still wouldn't be legit competition. The idea of legit competition to WWE is over. Vince won. He smashed out all competition forever.

ROH, TNA, Jarrett's new thing, New Japan, none of them can ever compete with a corporately owned, publicly traded company. I think WWE made like a 20 million profit in Q1 alone. Not even the whole year. No one will ever compete with that again. Which is terrible, because everyone needs competition in my opinion, or you get what you have from WWE. Stale, boring run through the motions just to make money type of product.
Problem is their creative team just sucks  
NNJ Tom : 10/27/2014 11:54 am : link
My 10-year old routinely comes up with much more entertaining plots than they do.

RE: Problem is their creative team just sucks  
djl8699 : 10/27/2014 12:03 pm : link
In comment 11941978 NNJ Tom said:
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My 10-year old routinely comes up with much more entertaining plots than they do.


Apparently they're comprised of failed hollywood writers, who lack any sort of wrestling experience, and that is entirely Vince McMahon's fault. Anytime Vince gets challenged creatively he casts that person out of his inner circle. Vince has always tried to run the wrestling business as some kind of circus, cheesy and contrived, but ultimately something the children are going to embrace. It wasn't until WCW started kicking his ass with the nWo angle that he was forced to evolve towards something more cutting edge, and even then it was only for a few years.
Lucha Underground is premiering this week  
Anakim : 10/27/2014 12:12 pm : link
Guys like Chavo Guerrero, Hernandez, John Morrison, Ezekiel Jackson and Judas Messias are apparently participating. I'm gonna watch the first episode to see if it's any good.



And yeah, Cena sucks balls. Ambrose and Rollins are the present and future
I'm boycotting this garbage until  
Sergio : 10/27/2014 12:17 pm : link
Cena gets hurt or they finally decide to do something different so you see in 10000 years
RE: I'm boycotting this garbage until  
Anakim : 10/27/2014 12:19 pm : link
In comment 11942043 Sergio said:
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Cena gets hurt or they finally decide to do something different so you see in 10000 years


Good move


And Raw and Smackdown are essentially the same show. Pretty much the same recycled matches
Ambrose is an absolute beast  
Anakim : 10/27/2014 12:21 pm : link
If the WWE wasn't PG and loosened the reins on him a bit, it'd be...such an entertaining show. He's absolutely awesome on the mic and has great ring psychology.
RE: I didnt watch it last night  
Anakim : 10/27/2014 12:33 pm : link
In comment 11941719 BIG FRED said:
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but i heard a hologram appeared is that true ? At least Wyatt is back as a main Heel .


Yeah. It appeared in the smoke from the lantern
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