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Beason done for 2014 (tom Rock)

Dannyc58 : 10/27/2014 12:10 pm
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RE: Not surprised  
Anakim : 10/27/2014 12:58 pm : link
In comment 11942105 Rjanyg said:
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The McClain signing was just made even bigger.


But he's not the MIKE. HE'S NOT THE MIKE!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/27/2014 1:00 pm : link
Dan Graziano ‏@DanGrazianoESPN 25m25 minutes ago

Coughlin on Rashad Jennings: "He's not ready to go."
That's the real bad news, is Jennings.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/27/2014 1:01 pm : link
Run game has been a disaster since Jennings went down, and he still can't even practice after the bye week and missing a few games. Unbelievable.
the one guy I don't  
Bleedin Blue : 10/27/2014 1:02 pm : link
want to rush back is Jennings. I want him 100% before he returns.
RE: the one guy I don't  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/27/2014 1:03 pm : link
In comment 11942174 Bleedin Blue said:
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want to rush back is Jennings. I want him 100% before he returns.


Season might be real close to being over by that time.
from what little I remember  
oke49 : 10/27/2014 1:05 pm : link
MCL sprains take anywhere from 6-12 weeks to heal
These last couple of seasons really freaking suck...  
redbeard : 10/27/2014 1:09 pm : link
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Let's not get carried away  
JonC : 10/27/2014 1:19 pm : link
a healthy Beason is a considerably superior MIKE to McClain, who's been serviceable.
If we're going to be honest, the season pretty much died in Dallas.  
Riggies : 10/27/2014 1:19 pm : link
And Detroit coming back on Atlanta and New Orleans the last two weeks shoveled dirt on it.

The team can't give up, obviously, but, at the same time, it doesn't make sense to rush a guy in Jennings that they may need in the big picture (ie next year) from an injury that could leave him susceptible to something more serious.
Such a big Beason fan ...  
Stufftherun : 10/27/2014 1:20 pm : link
just wish his time here would have a happier ending but I fear it won't.
I'm not saying they should rush him back.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/27/2014 1:21 pm : link
I'm just surprised he can't even practice yet, now after the Bye week. Should have clarified.
RE: Let's not get carried away  
jlukes : 10/27/2014 1:22 pm : link
In comment 11942206 JonC said:
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a healthy Beason is a considerably superior MIKE to McClain, who's been serviceable.


A 'healthy' Beason is not an actual thing.
Jennings has 7 more days to get ready  
spike : 10/27/2014 1:22 pm : link
not worried
RE: from what little I remember  
allstarjim : 10/27/2014 1:24 pm : link
In comment 11942179 oke49 said:
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MCL sprains take anywhere from 6-12 weeks to heal


Depends on the severity of the injury. A grade 2 MCL tear supposedly takes 2-4 weeks, a grade 3 can be up to 8 weeks or longer, unless surgery is required or other damage.
if he can't practice, Jennings won't play  
JonC : 10/27/2014 1:31 pm : link
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RE: RE: When was the last season the Giants were ot hit hard by injuries?  
BillT : 10/27/2014 1:34 pm : link
In comment 11942073 Reb8thVA said:
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In comment 11942053 Rick in Dallas said:


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Seems like it is very year...



Its starting to feel like the last two years of the Fassell era when the team was decimated with injuries.


Yeah, it's easy to forget we've had this kind of stuff happened throughout recent history. And the 1999 team lost something like 11 starters to IR. Hey, at least we have the SBs.
this is why  
SBlue46 : 10/27/2014 1:39 pm : link
We wont win.....I said 2 weeks ago...beason should go on ir
and another lb sign ...we had 2 weeks to get ready...
also said we should have signed Jones...and send Cox
to ps...rashad will be next...he may play a few
games and get reinjured....bad management and coaching.
We are thin at db and lb...Colts will toast us Mon..
40+ points ...then I quit watching. Hope im wrong
but tc is as predictable as play book.
He was hurting the team anyway being on the field...  
silverfox : 10/27/2014 1:53 pm : link
...next year, a LB hopefully will be a top two pick. LB has been nothing but a patchwork mess for so many years, its ridiculous already. Once a player breaks through the front 4, its usually clear sailing until they reach the secondary. That is why we are going nowhere again this year.
RE: I'm not saying they should rush him back.  
Bleedin Blue : 10/27/2014 2:06 pm : link
In comment 11942212 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I'm just surprised he can't even practice yet, now after the Bye week. Should have clarified.


Understood, I just don't want a repeat where we rush a guy back only to get hurt again. We do have til Monday, so he may still get some time in if he's ready to go. Schwartz us another guy who needs to get back, and at his natural position ( right guard) hopefully he' all put up a better showing there than he did in the preseason.
Now rolle's hurt too?  
area junc : 10/27/2014 2:08 pm : link
after a bye week? lmao
Not  
AcidTest : 10/27/2014 2:10 pm : link
surprised. I also wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the team next year. His 2015 salary is $7M IIRC.
any dead money hitting the cap if he's cut  
JonC : 10/27/2014 2:18 pm : link
?
RE: Now rolle's hurt too?  
Bleedin Blue : 10/27/2014 2:21 pm : link
In comment 11942424 area junc said:
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after a bye week? lmao


WTF!!! is this verified????
Rolle  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/27/2014 2:24 pm : link
is not hurt. He was having issues with his shoes at practice.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/27/2014 2:27 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 25m25 minutes ago

#Giants RB Rashad Jennings just starts running. Still not cutting. Appears far from being ready for MNF vs. #Colts
Do we make a trade for  
BIG FRED : 10/27/2014 2:31 pm : link
a linebacker this week ?
RE: Rolle  
Bleedin Blue : 10/27/2014 2:33 pm : link
In comment 11942489 Eric from BBI said:
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is not hurt. He was having issues with his shoes at practice.


PHEWWWWW!! Thanks Eric!
There's no reason to include Beason in future plans.  
Exit 172 : 10/27/2014 2:34 pm : link
No matter how talented some of these injury-prone players might be, you can't count on them for significant stretches in a season. And I'd imagine that's pretty disruptive for coaching and long-term planning.

Just eat whatever hit it will be and move on.
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arcarsenal : 10/27/2014 2:42 pm : link
Rolle is not hurt. Just more misinformation / nonsense from BBI's fake insider.
glad we paid him a bunch of money coming off a rare half season  
chris r : 10/27/2014 3:00 pm : link
of uninjured, decent play.
When people think area junc/Thomas..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/27/2014 3:02 pm : link
is an insider, I picture that commercial from a few years ago with the guy stowing away in the locker room hidden in the laundry cart.

That's the closest he's come to getting the inside poop....
Sorry to hear this  
nicky43 : 10/27/2014 3:06 pm : link
Beason is a beast and we need him.
There are RB's available via trade if JR wants to plug a hole  
andrew_nyg : 10/27/2014 3:07 pm : link
until Jennings is healthy.

Doug Martin and (I gotta believe) Stephen Jackson are available....hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the Falcons threw in Osi to take Jackson off their hands LOL
Why would we make a trade..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/27/2014 3:10 pm : link
when Jennings is close to coming back?
rolle's  
area junc : 10/27/2014 3:21 pm : link
"limited" in practice because he was having issues w/his shoes? never heard that one b4
RE: any dead money hitting the cap if he's cut  
Enoch : 10/27/2014 3:27 pm : link
In comment 11942468 JonC said:
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$3.83M.
he  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/27/2014 3:29 pm : link
wasn't limited. He practiced fully.
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arcarsenal : 10/27/2014 3:31 pm : link
The Doug Martin stuff has to stop. He's been woefully ineffective this year (and last) and the Giants are not going to give up a pick/picks to acquire him. It's just not going to happen.
RE: RE: any dead money hitting the cap if he's cut  
JonC : 10/27/2014 3:42 pm : link
In comment 11942663 Enoch said:
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In comment 11942468 JonC said:


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Thanks, I should've asked for the savings too.



$3.83M.
Thanks, I should've asked for the savings too.  
JonC : 10/27/2014 3:43 pm : link
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andrew_nyg : 10/27/2014 3:53 pm : link
In comment 11942679 arcarsenal said:
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The Doug Martin stuff has to stop. He's been woefully ineffective this year (and last) and the Giants are not going to give up a pick/picks to acquire him. It's just not going to happen.


Put Arian Foster or DeMarco Murray on the Bucs and let's see how well they play. NO..I am NOT saying that he's anywhere close to either as a RB, what I am saying is Tampa is not a fair sample size vis a vis his production.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 10/27/2014 4:01 pm : link
In comment 11942754 andrew_nyg said:
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In comment 11942679 arcarsenal said:


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The Doug Martin stuff has to stop. He's been woefully ineffective this year (and last) and the Giants are not going to give up a pick/picks to acquire him. It's just not going to happen.



Put Arian Foster or DeMarco Murray on the Bucs and let's see how well they play. NO..I am NOT saying that he's anywhere close to either as a RB, what I am saying is Tampa is not a fair sample size vis a vis his production.


And what makes you think he'd be better off here? Did you watch us try to run the football in Philadelphia and Dallas?
RE: Why would we make a trade..  
AcidTest : 10/27/2014 4:08 pm : link
In comment 11942611 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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when Jennings is close to coming back?


We wouldn't.
RE: RE: RE: .  
andrew_nyg : 10/27/2014 4:09 pm : link
In comment 11942788 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 11942754 andrew_nyg said:


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In comment 11942679 arcarsenal said:


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The Doug Martin stuff has to stop. He's been woefully ineffective this year (and last) and the Giants are not going to give up a pick/picks to acquire him. It's just not going to happen.



Put Arian Foster or DeMarco Murray on the Bucs and let's see how well they play. NO..I am NOT saying that he's anywhere close to either as a RB, what I am saying is Tampa is not a fair sample size vis a vis his production.



And what makes you think he'd be better off here? Did you watch us try to run the football in Philadelphia and Dallas?



Well first, I would only do it for a 6th or 7th round pick so there is little risk (especially considering JR's late rd track record), 2nd when Tampa had a functional line, and Freeman was playing above average, Martin was very effective.

The Giants OL isn't great, but it's safe to say they're better than tampa's.

He's one potential alternative in the event that Jennings is going to be out for any length of time.
Blocking has sucked the last (2) games...  
dguy901 : 10/27/2014 5:08 pm : link
The ineffective run game hurts us big-time! With Jennings back there, opposing D's had to play tougher, he was the starter for a reason! Williams will get better as time goes on, he had holes in college and was a load for any LB/DB, little bit different at this level. I guess Hillis is recovering from an injury which leaves us with Cox as the next-man-up. Give him a shot to prove himself, he is a lot quicker than most think, he also has fair hands.
RE: im a fan of Beason  
dguy901 : 10/27/2014 5:09 pm : link
In comment 11942128 Mighty said:
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but i gotta say that i really liked the way McClain was playing Mike in the beginning of the year. Hopefully Kennard can manage the OLB spot

Scary situation, 2 guys I don't know on the PS, who might be available by the deadline?
It's cancer  
yalebowl : 10/27/2014 11:00 pm : link
Per TC when he was hired - "Coughlin also raised eyebrows referring to last year's rash of injuries as "a cancer." New York had 12 players put on season-ending injured reserve."

"It is something that has to be corrected," Coughlin said. "It is a mental thing I believe as much as anything else."
Sucks to see Beason hurt  
David in LA : 10/27/2014 11:34 pm : link
I don't know if we release him, but I'd like to see us bring him back next season at full health. A healthy McClain is much better than a very hobbled Beason. I think we are still in the hunt right now, so hopefully we don't get thinned out at LB any further.
Just extremely unfortunate Beason could not  
Jimmy Googs : 10/28/2014 10:26 am : link
have an impactful year for this defense.

Finally find a LB worth a damn on the field, and we can't get him on the field.

See you next year JB.
Beason's dead money is almost 4 M,  
Doomster : 10/28/2014 3:15 pm : link
which can be split over the next two years if necessary....

This would net us about 3.5 M cap space over the next two years...it's that or you pay him 5.9 M next year.....
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