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NFT: First Place Islanders 10/27 Chat

Metnut : 10/27/2014 12:41 pm
Saw a few interesting tweets from Staple and figured I'd start a discussion.

(1) Hamonic is likely out again tomorrow, but Capuono expects that he'll be going on the road trip with the Islanders (thus no IR).

(2) The news on Bailey is "better than initially expected." He was skating this morning and has a good chance of travelling with the Islanders for the road trip.

If Bailey is ready to go, I'd love to slot him up in Conacher's spot on the first line. He looked really good before he got hurt and would add some defensive balance to our #1 line. Also, Bailey's tendency to pass first instead of shoot the puck might work into our favor when he's playing on a line with JT and KO.
If Hamonic is out tomorrow  
pganut : 10/27/2014 12:57 pm : link
I'd like them to give Donovan a shot, just to see where he is and what he can contribute. Yeah, I get that Cappy likes Strait on the PK, but honestly, how much worse could Dono be than Strait?

As for Bailey on L1, I'd be fine with that. What made the top line so dangerous last season is that Vanek was a skilled enough player that between the three of them, all three could create space with the puck and the opposing D had to respect that. With Conacher in, the strategy is easy...knock Conacher down and have 2-3 guys attack JT. We need someone who can drive possession and create plays. Which ironically is why Lee actually isn't the best fit on L1 (not that he'd be a bad choice). Ideally, it's a guy like Grabbo, but I have no interest in messing up the Grabbo-Fransie-Kulie line. If we were any other team, that's a line you look at and realize that you'd hate to have to play against them.
Grabovski or Kulemin would be great on L1  
Mike in NY : 10/27/2014 1:01 pm : link
But I do not want to break them up. Bailey if he keeps up his pre-injury play could work too. He has done well with Okposo in the past
Wait, what?  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/27/2014 1:03 pm : link
I ready Bailey is out at least 1-2 months.
Just get rid of Conacher on that first line  
LetsGoGiants : 10/27/2014 1:07 pm : link
He is bringing nothing to the table and hurting that line. I agree that we should try Bailey up there, remember how well Okposo and Bailey played together 2 years ago to get us into the playoffs?
I think  
Metnut : 10/27/2014 1:27 pm : link
giving Bailey a shot on the first line and easing Grabner in with time on the 4th line (along with the PK) would be a nice way to use our guys when we're healthy.
I read the Galdof article today  
Dave M : 10/27/2014 1:43 pm : link
And he attempted to explain that the Isles judge each line gets based on total production and that Conacher's 1 pt and -2 isn't really that big of a deal. I hope that's not how they operate. I disagree 100% as I think we all do. JT and KO will score regardless. The line hasn't been the same with him on it. He needs to go one way or the other. Other than Martin there is no other forward I'd rather see on L1. Either way can't complain about winning. Hopefully Halak can get his act together.
When is Bailey expected back now?  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/27/2014 1:49 pm : link
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Strait  
KWhite2250 : 10/27/2014 1:50 pm : link
Has played very well the last 2 games. Now isnt the time to take him out for Donovan. They let that time pass
6-2  
Fish : 10/27/2014 2:18 pm : link
With Conny on L1 and strait on defense. Things ain't that bad. Also opposing teams are working hard to shut down L1. Good thing we roll 4 lines now.
I guess  
Fish : 10/27/2014 3:57 pm : link
feelflows didn't notice the 1st place Islanders thread
RE: I guess  
Metnut : 10/27/2014 4:16 pm : link
In comment 11942771 Fish said:
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feelflows didn't notice the 1st place Islanders thread


1st place Islanders is new for all of us.
RE: I read the Galdof article today  
JayBinQueens : 10/27/2014 5:04 pm : link
In comment 11942291 Dave M said:
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And he attempted to explain that the Isles judge each line gets based on total production and that Conacher's 1 pt and -2 isn't really that big of a deal. I hope that's not how they operate. I disagree 100% as I think we all do. JT and KO will score regardless. The line hasn't been the same with him on it. He needs to go one way or the other. Other than Martin there is no other forward I'd rather see on L1. Either way can't complain about winning. Hopefully Halak can get his act together.


That's ridiculous if true.
I wouldn't  
Metnut : 10/27/2014 5:07 pm : link
mind giving Kulemin a shot at line #1. He's tough on the puck and would really help the line keep possession. We probably don't want to mess with the chemistry line #2 and line #3 have, so I giving Bailey and his playmaking ability a shot at line #1 makes sense too.
Gallof  
pganut : 10/27/2014 6:24 pm : link
Is a terrible writer. There are plenty of teams he does not follow in the least and either rides generally accepted (no matter how ill-informed they are) narratives in his writing or flat out makes shit up. Better off just following beat writers.
He always comes off  
Dave M : 10/27/2014 6:33 pm : link
Like he hates islanders fans. Very condescending.
sorry!!!!  
feelflows : 10/27/2014 7:49 pm : link
Out of it lol

Galdoff? Same hack who swore there was no sale????
6 against Lundquist  
feelflows : 10/27/2014 7:53 pm : link
Doesn't count. Remember, all goals against the Rangers are either because of a bad call, fluke goal or garbage goal.

If the Rangers aren't playing and you're in the mood for whiney bitches, Lifetime Channel is on 24/7. If not , a Rangers thread should suffice.
Nah the 6 against Hank was legit  
MetsAreBack : 10/27/2014 10:38 pm : link
the Rangers were in a bad stretch of hockey and your boys got them at the right time.

Congrats - in 8 games, that is the only bonified playoff goaltender you have beaten this year. How nice it must be to go to Boston .... and face Niklas Sedvberg. Or have Dallas come to town.... and face Anders Lindback.... while their all-star goalies take the night off.

4 backups faced in 8 games. 2-2 against NHL starters, and yes I counted one of Carolina's goalies as a starter.

This thread is a keeper. Keep up the great work.
MAB  
Fish : 10/27/2014 10:52 pm : link
Suck it bitch. A win is a win. I'm glad we had the chance to become 6-2. We are so lucky.
there it is again.  
Dave M : 10/28/2014 12:15 am : link
"How dare you be happy your team is playing well". Just shrug it off. Let me guess.... those hits tonight were clean? Refs out to get them? Tell me again how it's Kreider's speed that causes the injuries and not him being a scumbag. I wish they'd play that way against the Isles.
Its so cute how rangers fans are butthurt  
KWhite2250 : 10/28/2014 7:42 am : link
Who gives a flying fuck about which Goalies they have played? Honestly, its funny that somebody actually came up with that. Hopefully they take a count for the entire year and see how much morr of an advantage the isles got by playing backups. Maybe we should forfeit the games we get backuo goalies in net? I mean, its only fair to the rangers fan who gets held back by the NHL. Refs and now other teams coaches are trying to screw them over
Oh btw  
KWhite2250 : 10/28/2014 7:58 am : link
In 3 of those games, we played our backup goalie. So now can we count them since we made then a fair fight?
If wins over  
Metnut : 10/28/2014 9:13 am : link
backup goalies aren't worth anything then the Rangers win in the ECF last year was a fluke and we should diminish any credit given to them for their run.

Upcoming road trip is going to be a challenge so it would be nice to take care of the Jets tonight and head out west at 7-2.
Same lineup  
Metnut : 10/28/2014 11:32 am : link
tonight but with Halak in goal. Would be nice to get an update on Bailey and Hamonic at some point today.
Stapes tweeted  
Dave M : 10/28/2014 12:35 pm : link
That hamonic and Bailey will make the road trip.
RE: Nah the 6 against Hank was legit  
NYMase : 10/28/2014 1:23 pm : link
In comment 11943682 MetsAreBack said:
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the Rangers were in a bad stretch of hockey and your boys got them at the right time.

Congrats - in 8 games, that is the only bonified playoff goaltender you have beaten this year. How nice it must be to go to Boston .... and face Niklas Sedvberg. Or have Dallas come to town.... and face Anders Lindback.... while their all-star goalies take the night off.

4 backups faced in 8 games. 2-2 against NHL starters, and yes I counted one of Carolina's goalies as a starter.

This thread is a keeper. Keep up the great work.



LOL - your tears, they taste so delicious!
So when does the NHL  
The 12th Man : 10/28/2014 1:34 pm : link
adopt its new playoff tie breaker, wins against backup goaltenders?
wins against backups?  
feelflows : 10/28/2014 2:40 pm : link
sounds like the Rangers pathetic playoff run last year.
Misleading thread title.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/31/2014 7:30 am : link
Please change it.
RE: So when does the NHL  
BrettNYG10 : 10/31/2014 8:01 am : link
In comment 11944993 The 12th Man said:
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adopt its new playoff tie breaker, wins against backup goaltenders?


Yeah, you guys won't have to worry about playoff tie breakers.
The game thread last night is very unfortunate  
Greg from LI : 10/31/2014 8:08 am : link
Why are there so many calls to fire the coach? Isn't being in first place for a few days in late October enough for you people?
RE: The game thread last night is very unfortunate  
BrettNYG10 : 10/31/2014 8:09 am : link
In comment 11949307 Greg from LI said:
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Why are there so many calls to fire the coach? Isn't being in first place for a few days in late October enough for you people?


Some fans are truly spoiled and can't appreciate success.
RE: The game thread last night is very unfortunate  
KWhite2250 : 10/31/2014 8:36 am : link
In comment 11949307 Greg from LI said:
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Why are there so many calls to fire the coach? Isn't being in first place for a few days in late October enough for you people?


Just trying to do our impression of you on Halloween. That would be of a miserable human being
You'll never be that handsome or smart, though.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/31/2014 8:37 am : link
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Honestly though  
KWhite2250 : 10/31/2014 8:58 am : link
Even the ones who were too excited about the start have been wanting a new coach. Its been 3yrs all of us have wanted a coach. I dont think we will get one unless they go 0 for the trip. As a fan I dont want my team to lose 6 in a row but if its the only thing to rid us of this horrible coach and the rest of garths best friends, then so be it.

Im the pessimistic Isles fan and no matter what others say about the positives, I will never believe it with this organization. I think after the cubs, jets, and lions, the Isles are the next in line as far as awful organizations.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/31/2014 9:01 am : link
I think you guys need to fire Snow too. He made a few quality moves this off-season (Halak, Leddy, Ho-Sang, Boychuk if you re-sign him), but he's been fucking awful and has one of the five best players in the game.
The thread title  
Metnut : 10/31/2014 9:06 am : link
was factually accurate as of 10/27 :)
This thread is truly priceless  
MetsAreBack : 10/31/2014 2:55 pm : link

Was it fun while it lasted?

Unfortunately looks like the lucky run against back-up netminders has ended and thus the Losses have begun. Sucks.

As far as you playing your "back up" - well when your "starter" is a career journeyman on his 4th team in 5 years, I guess you should get used to that.

Suck it, Fish
MAB  
Fish : 10/31/2014 3:44 pm : link
A - you are a Mets fan. You feel our pain and frustration. Any taste of success we are like kids in a candy store or arc in porn shop. Regardless there is tons of emotion going on here. Hey, we wish we had so much success like the Rangers.........Bahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahah!!! Fuck off.
RE: The game thread last night is very unfortunate  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 3:46 pm : link
In comment 11949307 Greg from LI said:
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Why are there so many calls to fire the coach? Isn't being in first place for a few days in late October enough for you people?


LOL
Solid input  
Fish : 10/31/2014 4:09 pm : link
Vin. Well thought out.
its comical  
JayBinQueens : 10/31/2014 4:42 pm : link
That the ranger fans claim we islander fans are like jet fans, happy about October success only to have them constantly troll our threads.
Not sure if its an inferiority complex, which wouldn't make sense since we haven't won shit in 30 years or a sense of bravado, which would also be weird since the rangers haven't won shit in 20 years either
Haven't won a title  
Greg from LI : 10/31/2014 4:51 pm : link
But we did have more postseason wins last season than the Islanders have had in the past 20 seasons combined, so there is that
RE: Solid input  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 4:59 pm : link
In comment 11950104 Fish said:
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Vin. Well thought out.


Meant no disrepect Fish, just thought it was funny
.  
arcarsenal : 10/31/2014 5:00 pm : link
Our threads get trolled, too. We haven't had a game in like 20 days so we're bored. It's just a fuckin facewash. If jimmies are getting too rustled I'll lay off because most of you are solid.

Except for fuckin Fish who sucks it.. hard.
RE: Haven't won a title  
BlueHurricane : 10/31/2014 5:01 pm : link
In comment 11950146 Greg from LI said:
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But we did have more postseason wins last season than the Islanders have had in the past 20 seasons combined, so there is that


Now that is very #Jetsfanish
RE: .  
JayBinQueens : 10/31/2014 5:15 pm : link
In comment 11950155 arcarsenal said:
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Our threads get trolled, too. We haven't had a game in like 20 days so we're bored. It's just a fuckin facewash. If jimmies are getting too rustled I'll lay off because most of you are solid.

Except for fuckin Fish who sucks it.. hard.


stay all you'd like... just thought it was funny.

besides, we're only a handful of games in. Let's see where we are (and who our coach is) in 2 months...

No worries  
Fish : 10/31/2014 9:43 pm : link
Vin. I was just playin man.

Troll away boys, keeps our thread reply numbers higher....
exactly Fish  
MetsAreBack : 11/1/2014 10:23 am : link
the most important things are fan splits and TV ratings. Everything else is secondary.
RE: If wins over  
MetsAreBack : 11/1/2014 10:26 am : link
In comment 11944550 Metnut said:
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backup goalies aren't worth anything then the Rangers win in the ECF last year was a fluke and we should diminish any credit given to them for their run.



As far as this post goes, do or don't give any credit to the Rangers last year. Doesn't matter one iota to me.

Personally I unfortunately have a bad taste in my mouth the way things ended last year. All the blown 3rd period leads, the tight sticks in the overtimes and missed empty nets, just a 5 game series, etc. It was a great run and its hard as fuck in a 30-team league with a hard salary cap to win a Cup - we'll be lucky to see 4 in our lifetimes (probably grouped together because teams tend to cluster their titles)... but its hard to sit here and pound my chest about 2nd place.

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