if the Giants ever start to get anywhere near the direction of the incompetence of the top to bottom that the Jets have been. Bless ourselves when compared (if you want) to that disorganization cross town.
That had to be top 3 all-time. I'm still out of breath from laughing. Once he started going on about the other team laughing at them throwing 50 yard passes over their heads, Orton throwing for 9,000 yards and Watkins forgetting he was even in a game and thinking he was in a scrimmage because it was so easy, I lost it.
put together a string of some games where he's done great when protected, the Philly game aside
But offensively we are not scoring enough points. Insists on more balance and running the ball. Disappointed that the Giants have not run the ball effectively.
Not enough big plays---but my question is how are we going to get big plays if the OL doesn't give Eli enough time?
OBJ literally missed nothing in an educational aspect. We've had to make adjustments in regards to Eli throwing deep to OBJ and that's the reason why we've not seen a lot of deep shots in his direction
sounds like relying on Donnell for the "Big plays"
TC: We'd like more out of Randle. Donnell's made some plays but we'd like more out of him too. Preston Parker's worked very hard; he's very quick. In the right situations Parker will make some plays
Francesa: questions the secondary and its injuries
TC: DRC's tried the best he can but he's not been himself. Prince has played relatively well, even against Dez (Mike concurs). Dez is just so good that he just makes plays few other receivers make
We need to play better everywhere. TC thinks JPP's played well and the effort is 100%. JPP's worked hard in practice and good things are going to be there. JPP's healthy. We've expected a lot from that DL but we've not stopped the run the way we've liked
Beason's tried everything possible to get all the way back but it is just not in the cards this year, so we agreed on the surgery. McClain will remain at MLB with the headset
Francesa: This has been a very tough stretch. 18 teams with winning records. The wild cards are going to be tough and these next 4 are top teams, one right after another.
TC: We've got a 9 game season and our level of play is not where it needs to be after looking at the games this weekend. We've got to play above the x's and o's. We need some plays from some people we don't expect.
Yes, because that's the key to those more points being scored that you want, Tom, with the make-up of your team.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Yes, because that's the key to those more points being scored that you want, Tom, with the make-up of your team.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
I don't think I've ever seen any emotion from Nick, let alone anger. The guy is "unaffected".
Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
Yes, because that's the key to those more points being scored that you want, Tom, with the make-up of your team.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
I don't think I've ever seen any emotion from Nick, let alone anger. The guy is "unaffected".
Fair point on Nicks, I guess. But we know AB is going to be manic playing against us
Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
He's always believed in the big play.
Maybe his QB getting near killed last year.
BINGO! You beat me to it. Tough to make your QB stand back and wait in a non-existent pocket for a deep play to develop.
There has to be an in-between. They've been playing 2 yards and a cloud of dust for two weeks. There's no reason for it. That wasn't what worked earlier this season.
The protection was good last week and we've had other weeks where it was good. It was very bad against the Eagles and it was also bad against Detroit.
Last week was a game where we could have been a little more aggressive in looking downfield so I don't buy that it's all because he's worried about getting Eli killed.
His QB's terrible play last year probably scarred him more than the OL
Manning's not that broken player anymore, but Coughlin's rigid stance on how they have to keep running at a very high clip because if they don't they'll just turn it over in the passing game pretty much says most of it as to what 2013 did to his mindset.
I think Rex has proven more and more that he is not a good HC. He was a loudmouthed gimmick when he first got to NY and took over a team at the right time, with a good D. However, his ability to oversee an entire team is nil. He needs to either go back to being a DC or get to a TV booth. either way, I wouldn't want to be the guy to hire him for his next HC job, especially not any time soon.
regarding throwing the ball down the field if the run doesn't work?
But Reese has some credibility as a SB winning GM to take on his coach, even if his suggestions are correct or not. I actually like the fact he's implying that the brakes should be taken off and Eli should throw it more. That being said, Reese has to understand that the OL he built better protect Eli long enough to throw the ball deep to the one legit deep threat we've got
Ok..there you go..Reese: "Be more aggressive, take away the
1. Need to be more aggressive down the field with Eli. If you can't run the ball throw it don't force the run.
2. Players have to step up on defense.
3. We are too cautious on offense, Eli is a big play quarterback. We need to take the reigns off of the offense.
4. Seems to take shots at Perry for not adjusting to injured players and the inability to rush the QB.
5. Have to score points to match.
6. Defense has to make stops, period.
7. Without saying it sounds like he is not happy with Kiwi's play or Jenkins.
8. Likes McClain at MLB to replace Beason.
9. Thinks that Jennings was big for them but Williams is missing cuts and too eager to just hit the hole. Said that Williams saw those cuts in preseason and camp.
Wow really down on Fewell with that part about coordinators get paid money to make adjustments.
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immediately overtake the #1 overall spot on the ineptitude list for NYC franchises?
This is weird, but still can't unseat the Wilpons.
Is that true? I know the Mets are in dire straits but that's at least partly due to the financial situation, isn't it?
Woody's got more than enough money. The Jets are profitable. They're not in cap trouble. His personal fortune is doing just fine. This is just plain old incompetence right here.
We should deal with the Jests and take Rex off their hands
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Shouldn't be hard to find online. Nor should Mike's response.
Meanwhile with the giants:
@ebenezersamuel: Reese said on MLB, says he expects McClain "to get back in that role."
@ebenezersamuel: Jerry Reese: you've gotta score points. If you don't score points, you're not gonna win.
@NYGsalomone: Reese says not turning the ball over is key to wins but the offense could be more aggressive down the stretch. #NYG
@APTCan: Reese says Eli and JPP have played well but can play better
@RVacchianoNYDN: Reese says team has "a lot of young players, new faces," but no excuses. "It's time for us to play some good football."
@NYGsalomone: Reese says everyone has to deal with injuries. "You have to manufacture wins." #NYG
@art_stapleton: Jerry Reese calls for more snaps for Damontre Moore, but adds he is not a coach and trusts the coaching staff.
@NYGsalomone: Reese says as a GM you always think two years down the road and that DT Johnathan Hankins was part of the plan. #NYG
@NYGsalomone: Reese on LB depth: We've made calls; we've taken calls. #NYG
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@RVacchianoNYDN: It is confirmed, says @BradComoSNY: Joe Benigno's must-see John Idzik rebuttal, coming up at 5 p.m. on @SNYtv's @DailyNewsLive.
Will this be viewable after the fact? I must see this.
However, I think that's on the head coach, not the coordinator.
Idzik is an absolute idiot!! What purpose did this press conference serve? Just confirmed what we all already knew- the Jets are a complete mess.
So glad the Giants decided to build a Stadium with them.
Wow. Wow. Wow. Classic radio.
Here it is folks. Audio now available.
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But offensively we are not scoring enough points. Insists on more balance and running the ball. Disappointed that the Giants have not run the ball effectively.
Not enough big plays---but my question is how are we going to get big plays if the OL doesn't give Eli enough time?
Francesa: questions the secondary and its injuries
TC: DRC's tried the best he can but he's not been himself. Prince has played relatively well, even against Dez (Mike concurs). Dez is just so good that he just makes plays few other receivers make
We need to play better everywhere. TC thinks JPP's played well and the effort is 100%. JPP's worked hard in practice and good things are going to be there. JPP's healthy. We've expected a lot from that DL but we've not stopped the run the way we've liked
Francesa: This has been a very tough stretch. 18 teams with winning records. The wild cards are going to be tough and these next 4 are top teams, one right after another.
TC: We've got a 9 game season and our level of play is not where it needs to be after looking at the games this weekend. We've got to play above the x's and o's. We need some plays from some people we don't expect.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
I don't think we're going to get it done that way.
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Yes, because that's the key to those more points being scored that you want, Tom, with the make-up of your team.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
I don't think I've ever seen any emotion from Nick, let alone anger. The guy is "unaffected".
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
He's always believed in the big play.
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Yes, because that's the key to those more points being scored that you want, Tom, with the make-up of your team.
Force that balance, if not even full on run-focus, and rush the ball even more.
I agree for this week. 30 points is the absolute minimum when going up against Luck, an angry Nicks and an angry AB. TC needs to air it out like crazy unless the weather is terrible
I don't think I've ever seen any emotion from Nick, let alone anger. The guy is "unaffected".
Fair point on Nicks, I guess. But we know AB is going to be manic playing against us
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Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
He's always believed in the big play.
Maybe his QB getting near killed last year.
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Coughlin certainly seems to understand that we need to hit on more big plays and put more points on the board. It's all over the league now. We gotta get it done.
Something made him go into a shell and I'm not sure why.
He's always believed in the big play.
Maybe his QB getting near killed last year.
BINGO! You beat me to it. Tough to make your QB stand back and wait in a non-existent pocket for a deep play to develop.
Last week was a game where we could have been a little more aggressive in looking downfield so I don't buy that it's all because he's worried about getting Eli killed.
Manning's not that broken player anymore, but Coughlin's rigid stance on how they have to keep running at a very high clip because if they don't they'll just turn it over in the passing game pretty much says most of it as to what 2013 did to his mindset.
But Reese has some credibility as a SB winning GM to take on his coach, even if his suggestions are correct or not. I actually like the fact he's implying that the brakes should be taken off and Eli should throw it more. That being said, Reese has to understand that the OL he built better protect Eli long enough to throw the ball deep to the one legit deep threat we've got
We'll see if this is so the second half now.
I disagree. Ben was hardly touched all game. Indy's pass rush sucks; give Eli time, and he can carve up Indy's secondary.
2. Players have to step up on defense.
3. We are too cautious on offense, Eli is a big play quarterback. We need to take the reigns off of the offense.
4. Seems to take shots at Perry for not adjusting to injured players and the inability to rush the QB.
5. Have to score points to match.
6. Defense has to make stops, period.
7. Without saying it sounds like he is not happy with Kiwi's play or Jenkins.
8. Likes McClain at MLB to replace Beason.
9. Thinks that Jennings was big for them but Williams is missing cuts and too eager to just hit the hole. Said that Williams saw those cuts in preseason and camp.
Wow really down on Fewell with that part about coordinators get paid money to make adjustments.
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has escapability and avoid the rush to make the plays. Vs Eli, pocket passer, will not have that advantage this week. Plus with OL breakdowns.
I disagree. Ben was hardly touched all game. Indy's pass rush sucks; give Eli time, and he can carve up Indy's secondary.
hoping so. we'll see monday night.
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immediately overtake the #1 overall spot on the ineptitude list for NYC franchises?
This is weird, but still can't unseat the Wilpons.
Is that true? I know the Mets are in dire straits but that's at least partly due to the financial situation, isn't it?
Woody's got more than enough money. The Jets are profitable. They're not in cap trouble. His personal fortune is doing just fine. This is just plain old incompetence right here.
CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Jests continue to be the Joke of NY/NJ