NFT: Travis Outlaw traded for Arnett Moultrie

is from Queens

also give up a future #2, sixers also can swap future 2's

Arnett Moultire provided some nice defense against the Magic on Saturday with two blocks and two steals to go with six points, eight boards and two assists in 19 minutes.
He was roasted for his conditioning last season, but coach Brett Brown has praised Moultrie so far this year. The big man has a solid mid-range game and seems like a lock to be in the rotation. Just keep an eye on him for now.
Oct 18 - 10:47 PM

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Arnett Moultrie - F/C - 76ers

Arnett Moultrie played 34 minutes off the bench against the Celtics on Thursday, making 8-of-19 from the field for 16 points with nine boards, three assists and two steals.
The big minutes are interesting and Moultrie looks like a new player this season. He had major conditioning issues last season and was in the doghouse, but coach Brett Brown has said he's been impressed at camp so far. Moultrie is a decent jump shooter and projects to be in the rotation. We'll still need to see a lot more before we suggest him in anything other than a very deep league.
Oct 16 - 10:02 PM

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Arnett Moultrie - F/C - 76ers

Arnett Moultrie looked great in his preseason debut against the Celtics on Monday, scoring 12 points with six boards and two turnovers in 22 minutes.
He shot 6-of-10 from the field and it was a mid-range fest. Moultrie was more impressive on defense and he was getting up and down the floor pretty well. Henry Sims is still the favorite to start and is a better pick right now, but a couple strong games from Moultrie could change that.
Oct 6 - 11:11 PM

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Arnett Moultrie - F/C - 76ers

Coach Brett Brown has been impressed with Arnett Moultrie at camp.
"I think it’s a statement any time somebody comes back into a camp because as coaches you’re not with them all the time," Brown said. "You’re always curious how somebody looks. He has put in time, which to me is a real strong indication of his attitude coming into this year. It’s a positive reflection." Moultrie squandered his chance last season because he showed up out of shape. This year, he'll have to have a great camp to earn his playing time. Henry Sims is still the big man to grab after Nerlens Noel, but keep an eye on Moultrie.

to offer up until 2018 so it's not like we're giving up anything that will benefit the team in the short term, but why not just waive Outlaw or buy him out?

In comment 11942747 Enzo said:

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to offer up until 2018 so it's not like we're giving up anything that will benefit the team in the short term, but why not just waive Outlaw or buy him out?

Trading an expiring Outlaw contract for this guy would suggest more than a passing interest. They must see something they value.

And he IS a young big to work on, who's had a resurgent preseason month.

starter.

except that now I guess he didn't?
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In comment 11942759 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 11942747 Enzo said: Quote: to offer up until 2018 so it's not like we're giving up anything that will benefit the team in the short term, but why not just waive Outlaw or buy him out? Trading an expiring Outlaw contract for this guy would suggest more than a passing interest. They must see something they value. And he IS a young big to work on, who's had a resurgent preseason month.

what if Wear makes the roster instead of this guy?

make sense to give up a #2 to dump Outlaw unless they intend on keeping Moultie. Jackson openly said Wear eventually would go t the dleague anyway.

Anyway, Wear seems more D-League bound than anything. Nice undrafted free agent find.

Moultrie was a first-round draft pick and he's 23. My guess would be he's going to get a really good long look.

In comment 11942786 DanMetroMan said:

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make sense to give up a #2 to dump Outlaw unless they intend on keeping Moultie. Jackson openly said Wear eventually would go t the dleague anyway.

per Iannazonne, Moultrie has already been waived.

to pick up a player they don't intend to keep?

Doubtful. Besides, Moultrie sounds as if he can be a player if he is in shape. Very big and young.

There has to me more to it. There's no reason to trade a player and a pick when Outlaw is on his last year if you want to clear a roster spot.

and he was a first round pick just a couple seasons ago. Considering Outlaw is garbage it seems like an ok move to me.

It does mean the Dleague for Wear but thats ok, he probably needs the playing time anyway.

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was the purpose of adding Moultrie at the expense of a 2nd rounder to waive him? Makes no sense.

thats the reason

why was Jackson so open about liking Wear while still admitting he would land in the dleague eventually?

or are we that far up against the tax line? Moultrie was going to make like 1.1 which means we would only save 1.9 mill, not sure its worth giving up a second rounder to save under 2 mill.

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There has to me more to it. There's no reason to trade a player and a pick when Outlaw is on his last year if you want to clear a roster spot.

there's definitely a reason. $$.

In comment 11942801 DanMetroMan said:

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was the purpose of adding Moultrie at the expense of a 2nd rounder to waive him? Makes no sense.

saving the salary and associated luxury tax immediately comes to mind.

of silly for Jackson to pump this kid up... doesn't that make other teams more likely to take a look?


“Travis Wear is another impressive rookie,” Knicks President Phil Jackson told ESPN.com. “He’s 6-10 with a terrific handle, outstanding athleticism and a nice touch from beyond the arc. He was overshadowed at UCLA, but has the skill set to play every position from 1 to 4. We’ll eventually place him in the D-League, where his possible NBA future solely depends on his ability to learn how to defend.”

he thinks he can play the 1? at 6'10?

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In comment 11942796 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: There has to me more to it. There's no reason to trade a player and a pick when Outlaw is on his last year if you want to clear a roster spot. there's definitely a reason. $$.

Seems weird to value the cash more than the draft selection.

and you can usually buy second rounders for way less then that, of course you must have some of your 3 mill per year left.

In comment 11942817 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 11942805 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 11942796 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: There has to me more to it. There's no reason to trade a player and a pick when Outlaw is on his last year if you want to clear a roster spot. there's definitely a reason. $$. Seems weird to value the cash more than the draft selection.

if you've been following this team for an extended period of time, nothing is out of the ordinary.

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by watching this team for any extended period of time.

and such it's possible Outlaw's total cap and luxury hit was way north of $10 million or so. Just another side benefit of the Bargs trade (i.e. his big salary on the books for this season) and other overpays over the years.

really hope Jackson hyping up Barnagni is just lip service. I despise watching him play.

In comment 11942834 manh george said:

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by watching this team for any extended period of time.

Meet the new boss...

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really hope Jackson hyping up Barnagni is just lip service. I despise watching him play.

it's no coincidence we played a lot better last season once he went down with the season ending injury. He's an offense only player who sucks on offense.

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In comment 11942840 DanMetroMan said: Quote: really hope Jackson hyping up Barnagni is just lip service. I despise watching him play. it's no coincidence we played a lot better last season once he went down with the season ending injury. He's an offense only player who sucks on offense.

He looks like he's never played the sport of basketball at times. I understand IN THEORY why coming into the draft people liked him but he's as if Dirk's talent was sucked out by a vacuum.

It will never happen but it should. The way they're running that team is very detrimental to the league. Other owners should be up in arms over the shit product the Sixers are foisting on the league -- and remember, half their games are played on the road, so the other owners are absolutely suffering in ticket sales whenever the Sixers come to town.

and the Sixers trade him. I guess they figured they wouldn't have to worry about that possibility with Outlaw. What they are doing is a league-wide embarrassment.

is that Philly is 100% executing the proper strategy given the CBA and the draft lottery rules. Plenty of teams have tanked before but it would seem nobody has done it on this scale before.

Save some dough and it's more than just 2 million dollars because we're in the luxury tax...so a 2nd rounder and a swap of second rounders for a saving of more than 2 million...

is that they keep drafting guys that cant play their rookie year. If they had Noel last year or Embiid this year they might not be as horrible.

And i 100% agree that PHilly is doing this the right way. If you arent going to be good then you might as well be horrible. it would suck as a fan that you dont get to see your rookies like Noel or Embiid, but they are both guys that they got a few spots below where they would have gone if they were not hurt.

Marc Stein: Additional movitvation for Knicks to do Travis Outlaw deal: They just shaved nearly $4.7 million off their luxury-tax bill with this trade

Dolan is/was his willingness to spend. You can't call him cheap, after the payroll for this team is still sky high. But it's clear he's mainly interested in keeping the building full and not necessarily in traditional team building.

In comment 11942905 Anakim said:

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Marc Stein: Additional movitvation for Knicks to do Travis Outlaw deal: They just shaved nearly $4.7 million off their luxury-tax bill with this trade

now Jimmy has more money for fedoras and guitars! Yay us!

Has some shooting and ball skills.

Guys like that don't grow on trees. Definitely worth a look, especially for a guy such as Outlaw, who probably was not going to play.

In comment 11942947 oipolloi said:

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Has some shooting and ball skills. Guys like that don't grow on trees. Definitely worth a look, especially for a guy such as Outlaw, who probably was not going to play.

if you're referring to Moultrie, he's already gone.

In comment 11942914 Enzo said:

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In comment 11942905 Anakim said: Quote: Marc Stein: Additional movitvation for Knicks to do Travis Outlaw deal: They just shaved nearly $4.7 million off their luxury-tax bill with this trade now Jimmy has more money for fedoras and guitars! Yay us!

I see what Jax did here. Next time Dolan calls to recommend a trade, Jax will say "I saved you $4.7 million on Outlaw. Leave me alone."

Moultrie's been waived and Outlaw will be.


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but it sure seems like Stein is almost like Wojo when it comes to reporting Knicks stuff. This isn't the first time he's had Knicks news first.

But it sounds like we just got fleeced.

My opinion is volatile, and I'll gladly change it if we had any other motive to do this deal other than to get Dolan more coke money.

that were on ESPN.com last week, were from the beginning of training camp. Then training camp happened and looks like Wear will make it.