"How are you doing this morning?" is street harassment?
Jeez.
Cam, a woman summed it up already better than I could:- I believe it is absolutely harassment within this context and environment:
"Most of us have (to one degree or another) a socially-conditioned reflex to be polite and respond to someone who greets us. Each of those comments, even the "have a nice day" ones come with an implicit obligation to respond. Imagine if once every six minutes all day some stranger expected you to respond to them simply because they wanted you to.
It's not one incident, it's the constant weight of expectations."
...you'll have the fun of walking down the street with your daughter while the @$$holes ogle her... plus knowing that it would be a lot worse if Daddy weren't there.
Good times, believe me. That particular video is pretty mild stuff.
out of ten hours of walking seems about as bad as aggressive panhandling. Granted, the creeper who walked next to her for five minutes was significantly worse than the people talking to her.
"How are you doing this morning?" is street harassment?
Jeez.
Cam, a woman summed it up already better than I could:- I believe it is absolutely harassment within this context and environment:
"Most of us have (to one degree or another) a socially-conditioned reflex to be polite and respond to someone who greets us. Each of those comments, even the "have a nice day" ones come with an implicit obligation to respond. Imagine if once every six minutes all day some stranger expected you to respond to them simply because they wanted you to.
It's not one incident, it's the constant weight of expectations."
would've been a better video than the one they made. There were very few egregiously bad comments in that clip.
But if they were able to put something together of dudes staring at her T&A throughout the day, now that would've been a better window into the ridiculousness of men.
It's annoying not being able to take a leisurely 10-hour stroll without some creepy chick checking out my ass or making lewd comments or gestures toward me every 10 minutes.
The 2 guys following her is ridiculously creepy and hard to watch Â
It's annoying not being able to take a leisurely 10-hour stroll without some creepy chick checking out my ass or making lewd comments or gestures toward me every 10 minutes.
Yeah, well, what about that looney Aussie who kept going around saying "G'Day" to everyone. Shit, he couldn't even walk down the street without causing a mess!
The two guys walking with her, no doubt. If she told him to piss off, he would have left earlier.
How many of you have walked down the street with people saying hello? After 10 hrs it would be annoying, I guess. But a few block walk and a half dozen hellos isn't harassment.
Save it for the bars or clubs, where there are other people and a setting that makes sense. Don't do that shit to women who are just walking by themselves.
If a woman wants your opinion on her beauty or looks, she'll ask you for it.
actually think these guys are saying a friendly hello? I'd say it's a bit different than some annoying clerk telling you to have a nice day, no? I don't know if every girl in NYC has this experience all day long but I can certainly see how one would label constant, unwanted attempts by total strangers to get your attention as harrassing in nature...
...I have a habit of greeting nearly every person I pass. Grew up in the hospitality industry so it is reflex. So if I say hello to somebody I pass, or have a good day...I am harassing them? I never knew what a vile bastard I am.
In the context there is a tone to their "greetings" that hints at the expectation of more. Plus, most of them followed up their greeting with a question. There was a clear hope or expectation for a response and they were not innocent in nature.
some of those guys crossed the line but others just said hello Â
If she was a really good looking woman. Would it had been worse or are men less likely to harass the really smokin hot woman.
I was thinking the same thing. She wasn't really particularly attractive. She wasn't ugly and she had curves in places a man could admire. But, she also wasn't a beautiful woman with an "ideal" body. What would this video have yielded with a more attractive woman.
...I have a habit of greeting nearly every person I pass. Grew up in the hospitality industry so it is reflex. So if I say hello to somebody I pass, or have a good day...I am harassing them? I never knew what a vile bastard I am.
H07, no. I strongly believe the backdrop and culture of NYC heavily influences the example in the video above.
Southern Hospitality, for instance, a 'Howdja do' upon some southern amble is different.
To me its all highly contextual, and a reminder that in a country this large there ought to be very little application of one size fits all.
Everytime she leaves her apartment? To me the point of the video is the ever-present nature of it. This isn't an experiment for the women living in New York, but an everyday all the time experience. It's not as if they need to survive ten hours of it and then are done with it.
With that body she needs to do another 10 hours daily Â
...you'll have the fun of walking down the street with your daughter while the @$$holes ogle her... plus knowing that it would be a lot worse if Daddy weren't there.
Good times, believe me. That particular video is pretty mild stuff.
Everytime she leaves her apartment? To me the point of the video is the ever-present nature of it. This isn't an experiment for the women living in New York, but an everyday all the time experience. It's not as if they need to survive ten hours of it and then are done with it.
Is it really an everyday experience if it takes 10 hours of walking to yield 2 min of video?
The guys who walked with her, Mr Silent and Mr AmI Ugly, took it way to far but the majority while unwanted I would say fall short of harassment.
maybe a few of them but let's be real, this is real life. She could always follow the trend and bury herself in a phone and earbuds while pretending she is in a virtual world.
Some of them are really bad like "Damn mami" but a lot of guys don't even want to talk to women anymore or be upfront because you don't know why type of crazy they are.
some of the comments on this thread, I find myself more sympathetic to women who deal with this daily and the inherent "c'mon, what's the big deal" attitude that comes with it...
or been as upset if some Wall street rich kids were trying to attract her attention?
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
She should enjoy the attention while she's still young Â
or been as upset if some Wall street rich kids were trying to attract her attention?
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
Are you really that dense? "You can't blame guys for trying" -- actually, you can. When catcalling and harassing makes someone feel uncomfortable and unsafe, it's not okay and is not something that should be forgiven or seen as no big deal.
Also, you think the guy walking beside her for 5 minutes noticed a hidden camera in the backpack of the guy walking ahead of them? Yeah, I'm sure that was it... he had no other intention there
or been as upset if some Wall street rich kids were trying to attract her attention?
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
Ah, there's the racist card. Lovely.
Also, you do realize, and you would if you were paying attention to the beginning, but the camera is hidden. The guy wasn't walking with her because he was curious about the camera, lol. Come on now.
a break, none of these guys was just being friendly. Don't know why so many here minimize it. No, it's not the worst problem women face but they shouldn't have to put up with this crap just walking down the street.
Then I saw a different link to this video that outed her as an aspiring actress. I'm sure that is why this video is out more than anything. That doesn't change my opinion about the behaviors shown, though.
Then I saw a different link to this video that outed her as an aspiring actress. I'm sure that is why this video is out more than anything. That doesn't change my opinion about the behaviors shown, though.
Absolutely. It gets her name out there. I mean it won't amount to much, but at least she'll get her 15 minutes of fame...like the Drake Starbucks Hands guy.
But the charity...I just don't get it. And I don't get these anti-bullying charities either. Unless the money is going to be used as bribes to NOT do such things, I don't see how they help. Hitting on women and bullying will always be a part of society. No ifs, ands or buts about it. No amount of money or "sensitivity training" will change that
are rolling their eyes at girls whining about this crap when there are actually real issues to deal with. Amazingly, some of them even effect both men and women.
Good point. It's funny, we are going through the middle school process for my oldest right now. So far out of the 6 schools we visited, 5 claim they don't have any bullying. One principal had the decency to say of course there are incidents; any principal telling you otherwise is lying.
this girl didnt dress sexy or anything... but wait til Halloween Â
the guys in the video are actors, I don't see what her being an actress or any possible motives for making the video have to do with the point of the video itself.
So she should just be ok with being bothered walking down the street Â
...sometimes they will wear a low cut bit of nothing shirt with a push up bra to display them as best as possible. You would think not complimenting her breasts would be insulting because she went through all that effort to show them off. But no, if you say anything you are a creep. Makes no sense.
RE: So she should just be ok with being bothered walking down the street Â
They are just saying hello. Just saying good morning. As I am sure they said hello and good morning to every person they passed that day. She is a whoreslutbitch for not replying back with a hello and good morning. Because surely these guys wouldn't have taken the reply as her wanting to start up a conversation and a clear sign that she wants their D.
- Dudes In This Thread
RE: RE: So she should just be ok with being bothered walking down the street Â
One of those words took a swing at her. True story.
It takes a certain kind of ego to be either unable or unwilling to imagine that it must be a real pain in the ass to be talked to like that by creeps in the street all fucking day. Much less followed.
RE: RE: So she should just be ok with being bothered walking down the street Â
No argument on that one. Yes, I'm sure a bunch of lame pickup attempts are annoying. If that's your biggest worry in life, I'd say you're doing fairly well for yourself.
no one is calling for arrests to be made (except maybe that one dude) so I don't understand the hang up with the word "Harassment" nor do I get why this has to elevate to the "worst thing to happen" in order to have any relevance...this thread is taking on the tone of an episode of The Knick.
panhandlers, street performers in the subways, people handing crap out, etc walking around new york is full of annoyances for everyone. Trying to make it a gender thing is trolling.
No argument on that one. Yes, I'm sure a bunch of lame pickup attempts are annoying. If that's your biggest worry in life, I'd say you're doing fairly well for yourself.
I get it. You're acknowledging the problem but basically saying you don't care about it. That's understandable, but you might consider whether you don't care about it because you don't have to deal with it.
What is worse is going to the mall and having those kiosk sales people attack you to try to get you to try their shitty product.
Honestly New Yorkers build up a shield to this kind of stuff. When I moved down here, I was very uncomfortable with everyone being so nice and speaking to you. It broke the 'never make eye contact' rule from NY. It was a bit hard to get used to, but now I like it.
you're right - I have no annoyances to deal with in my life Â
I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
If this probably-Hokie trash could walk 10 hours in my shoes... Â
Many of the same people who think women should serve in the infantry also believe that a woman is incapable of simply ignoring unwanted come-ons. Amusing.
I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
Some of the guys were following her for a long time pretty much demanding a response. If you don't see that as harassment I don't know what to tell you?
i think those werent so bad but then how do you strike a convo with her...
Here's a hint. You don't know someone, err on the side of minding your own business. If you are saying Hello to be nice, it will probably come across as such. If you don't get a response, that's what you get for addressing someone you don't know.
What is clear though, is that the video is being confirmed by many posters here who think it is ok to interact with women in however they deem fit, and they should get a response.
I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
Some of the guys were following her for a long time pretty much demanding a response. If you don't see that as harassment I don't know what to tell you?
As I said, if she told them to get lost, they would have. And I said that those two were the exception.
RE: RE: but what about the hellos and good morning Â
i think those werent so bad but then how do you strike a convo with her...
Here's a hint. You don't know someone, err on the side of minding your own business. If you are saying Hello to be nice, it will probably come across as such. If you don't get a response, that's what you get for addressing someone you don't know.
What is clear though, is that the video is being confirmed by many posters here who think it is ok to interact with women in however they deem fit, and they should get a response.
ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
Many of the same people who think women should serve in the infantry also believe that a woman is incapable of simply ignoring unwanted come-ons. Amusing.
People are capable of dealing with all kinds of shit that they just shouldn't have to deal with in the first place.
Because it will open up pandora's box. If 95% of the behavior in this video somehow became illegal (impossible anyway), then that basically means no man can approach a girl in any capacity. The law can't make a rule on how good or bad someone's game of slinging strange is.
The guy wearing a G-Unit crewneck saying good morning should be held to the same standard as the guy in a suit asking a girl if she'd like to grab a drink. It's annoying, probably unfair; but so is life. This is not utopia.
The ironic thing about this video is that it is about as attention whore as it gets. Her claim at the end for some donation to stop this "harassment" is weaksauce level over 9000.
Change every gross guy in the world?
7 billion people
3.5B males
10% are inappropriate towards women
350 million people to change!
At least 5 people who care about this on this thread
70 million people for each of them to change
Get started protecting women from minor annoyances in public!
this video was very interesting as a perspective most men don’t fully appreciate yet most women have to deal with and “ignore” on a regular or semi-regular basis. What I find more interesting and surprising is the dismissive tone of some responses and the outright contempt some seem to have for even suggesting that this would possibly be perceived as harassing in nature.
As to the “what are men supposed to do” and “you can’t ban pickup lines” posts, I would agree to an extent but following basic rules of common sense and decency should be enough….like maybe not thinking a shout out to a women walking on the streets is a good approach and perhaps saying hello in a normal way while in line with said woman or in some other situation where it would be more natural might be the way to go….just spitballin’ here.
it's just what can be done about it? I hate to be judgmental (well, not really) but most of the guys were low lifes just hanging around on the street. There isn't really that much you can do about it.
Because it will open up pandora's box. If 95% of the behavior in this video somehow became illegal (impossible anyway), then that basically means no man can approach a girl in any capacity. The law can't make a rule on how good or bad someone's game of slinging strange is.
Who is talking about making it illegal?
Greg earlier mentioned "First World Problems"...maybe so. How do you think the first world remains the first world? Be concerned with civility. Be concerned with respect. Be concerned with dignity.
GMAN4LIFE : 11:02 am : link : reply
ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
Daaaaaaaammn, mami!"
Obviously.
hahaha those are the low lifes. The removal of low lifes would be the only way but what about the average person. Again, there would be no way to stop this girl and try to strike conversation without looking like a creep.
My wife has to walk 15 blocks per day, and she is a very good looking blonde girl walking 15 blocks in new york city, I asked her this and showed her the video she said no its not like that at all. Sometimes i talk on the phone with her while she walks and i have never heard once of this. You gotta understand that thick bitch is walking through the ghetto too not in a very 'classy' area
Delete this shit
Stopping a girl on the street with the intent of getting in her vag, Â
Because it will open up pandora's box. If 95% of the behavior in this video somehow became illegal (impossible anyway), then that basically means no man can approach a girl in any capacity. The law can't make a rule on how good or bad someone's game of slinging strange is.
Who is talking about making it illegal?
Greg earlier mentioned "First World Problems"...maybe so. How do you think the first world remains the first world?
Be concerned with civility. Be concerned with respect. Be concerned with dignity.
So what you are saying is that BBI is not in the First World?
ok so there are settings for talking to a girl and not on the street when you see her walking... she cant be stopped for a quick chat even in a nice way.
first thing some women need is some self respect for themselves Â
Women don't care, man. If the beat's all right, she will dance all night! I've seen girls on the floor dancing to the nastiest shit ever made. It's like, "Smack her with a dick, smack her with a dick! … I put a dick in the ear, a dick in the ear! … Fuck her in the eye, fuck her in the eye! … Blind the bitch, blind the bitch!"
If you mention to a woman that the song is disgusting and misogynistic, they all give you the same answer: "He ain't talking 'bout me!" Smack her with a dick, smack her with a dick … He said your name! "No, he didn't!" Smack her with a dick, smack her with a dick …
It's not 'creepy' to pick up women on the street Â
A) that's different than cat-calling and B) both are creepy when done by fat and/or dirty scummers who should stick to other fat, gross people in Wal-Mart or Pizza Hut or w/e. Stay in your element.
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
RE: It's not 'creepy' to pick up women on the street Â
A) that's different than cat-calling and B) both are creepy when done by fat and/or dirty scummers who should stick to other fat, gross people in Wal-Mart or Pizza Hut or w/e. Stay in your element.
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
lol. Do you perchance also hang out on PUA forums?
is put into the position where she has to remain silent to even "good morning" & such.
Still beats the hell out of being accused for adultery and then stoned to death by her family & neighbors.
I am firmly in the camp of "that's really low class and annoying", but your last sentence added another perspective. In this country we are now in a phase where no one should experience any discomfort in their life. Maybe lack of exposure to true daily hardship has allowed us to become hypersensitive to life's little annoyances and discomforts
A) that's different than cat-calling and B) both are creepy when done by fat and/or dirty scummers who should stick to other fat, gross people in Wal-Mart or Pizza Hut or w/e. Stay in your element.
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
lol. Do you perchance also hang out on PUA forums?
It does have that feel. Points off for no mention of aesthetics.
I am firmly in the camp of "that's really low class and annoying", but your last sentence added another perspective. In this country we are now in a phase where no one should experience any discomfort in their life. Maybe lack of exposure to true daily hardship has allowed us to become hypersensitive to life's little annoyances and discomforts
This is exactly what I was getting at, albeit in a much more polite manner. Nowhere was I arguing that catcalls are a good thing. I've said repeatedly that I'm sure it's pretty damned irritating. The point is that there is no divine right to not be annoyed or uncomfortable. I've got a neighbor who works on his goddamned boat and ATVs all the time, revving those damned engines for what seems like hours on end when I'm in my backyard hammock, trying to relax or read. I have fantasized about those engines simply blowing up in his face. Ultimately, though, what can you do? I'm learning to ignore it. It's really not that hard.
Saw a lot of people hanging around doing nothing in the middle of the day.
How odd that their social graces aren't up to snuff. I don't care to be painted with the same broad brush as these deadbeats who have no place to be.
I read an article that said the video was racist because most of the guys commenting to her were minorities.
Well, that's dumb. It's only racist if she edited out instances of white dudes saying things. I guarantee you if there were a bunch of Wall Street Ivy League bros or big wig executive types harassing her, that would have made the cut.
She walked in areas where she knew she'd encounter a bunch of no class bozos, then used the footage to make a general statement about an entire gender.
Pretty girl in tight clothing has a lot of guys trying to holla at her. News at 11!
Seriously though, me and my wife have a Food Lion right down the street from us that we go to and every single time she goes alone there's at least one guy who tries to talk to her. It's become a running joke of sorts. But my wife knows that because she's a pretty woman that's going to happen and has pretty much accepted it and as long as no one touches her or goes to far in their pursuit, I take it as a compliment just as she does. Perhaps this woman should too. I agree that the guy who was following her and one or two others fall into that 'pursuing too long' category... but sheesh, now it's considered wrong to say 'Hi' or 'Good Morning' to someone?
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
T-Bone,
GiantFilthy : 12:30 pm : link : reply
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
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buford : 12:44 pm : link : reply
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
true but oh well... you walked through all lowlifes. This shouldnt be news to her. Now have her do this in a better environment. Doesnt happen.
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
I just assume anyone who talks to me wants to engage in coitus.
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
One solution would be to take the onus off of men to be the one who initiates conversation 99% of the time.
Don't want to be bothered by the bottom rung of male society? Establish a willingness to be equals when it comes to dating, as opposed to passively waiting for someone who meets your standards to ask you out.
There are many approaches to meeting women, and while this may be an example of the worst possible way, when you put it exclusively in our hands you're going to run the gamut.
Two days in a row that this dumb fucking story has been plastered all over the news.
She wasn't harassed. She knew what she was doing. And she dressed accordingly to elicit a specific response. That any news program is granting a second of airtime to this garbage is an indictment of how horrible news reporting is these days.
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
T-Bone,
GiantFilthy : 12:30 pm : link : reply
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
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buford : 12:44 pm : link : reply
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
That's true, but if a woman personalizes this, that's the problem. They aren't talking to her as much as they probably talk to every woman that passes by. So I wouldn't be flattered or bothered by it. That is what they are doing, it really doesn't have anything to do with me. Of course the guys who follow her down the street, that is a different story. But honestly I've never had an issue with brushing someone off by being direct.
I know I'm probably going to catch shit for this, but it seems women that do complain about this are really upset because they don't believe certain guys have the right to talk to them. They believe they are way too good for those guys and those guys should understand that and not address them at all. Just MHO.
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
That's a poor analogy, IMO - additionally, the men have ~6+ inches and 50+ pounds on her. You and I can most likely do something about a man following us around for a period of time - a woman probably can't without going to someone else.
It's not merely people bothering her while she's going about her day, but the potential intimidation factor associated with it - particularly at night.
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as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
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Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
That's true, but if a woman personalizes this, that's the problem. They aren't talking to her as much as they probably talk to every woman that passes by. So I wouldn't be flattered or bothered by it. That is what they are doing, it really doesn't have anything to do with me. Of course the guys who follow her down the street, that is a different story. But honestly I've never had an issue with brushing someone off by being direct.
I know I'm probably going to catch shit for this, but it seems women that do complain about this are really upset because they don't believe certain guys have the right to talk to them. They believe they are way too good for those guys and those guys should understand that and not address them at all. Just MHO.
I also feel that most people shouldn't have a right to talk to me because I'm too good for them.
Not to mention there are places & settings where Â
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
That's a poor analogy, IMO - additionally, the men have ~6+ inches and 50+ pounds on her. You and I can most likely do something about a man following us around for a period of time - a woman probably can't without going to someone else.
It's not merely people bothering her while she's going about her day, but the potential intimidation factor associated with it - particularly at night.
It may not be the best but I think it's an apt one. And she seemed to have no problem handling herself for 10 hours (at least the 10 hours she allowed us to see). Not to mention, she's only showed us what SHE wants us to see... what about the guys who approached her in a respectful way? What about the guys who she actually perhaps stopped and talked to? How do we even know she did this for actually 10 hours?
And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
Go to the bars, clubs, online dating, places where women are dressed up & clearly seeking attention form the opposite sex.
Some would argue that she's clearly seeking attention by the way she's dressed.... which, again, she has a right to do.. but then don't be surprised by the reaction you get from others (hence my likening this to me wearing a Giants jersey around Philly). And for everyone woman like her who doesn't appreciate the way she's getting approached there is another woman who enjoys it and may have stopped and talked to one of those guys. How are we supposed to know the difference?
You don't know what some woman just walking down the street minding her business has going on. Shit, she could be walking home from the doctors office where she just got told she had pussy cancer because she let some dude on the street pick her up and sleep with her by saying," Damn Girl!". Yeah, that dude gave her HPV, but she had jeans on that day...
started talking to me yesterday in a deli. He told me i could get in line in front of him, told me pink was a good color on me and told me to give the cashier hell. ( was wearing pink scrubs) puleeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee
there is a time and place. I'm sure plenty of women don't mind being hit on out in public like this. But in my opinion it's best to go by the assumption that on the street, especially in a fast moving town like Manhattan, that girl does not want me to stop her and she is not out here looking the other half of her heart.
If I see her at the bar then I'll runningman-chasse-featherstep-heelpull-crossbodylead-grapevine right up to her and see what's up.
You don't know what some woman just walking down the street minding her business has going on. Shit, she could be walking home from the doctors office where she just got told she had pussy cancer because she let some dude on the street pick her up and sleep with her by saying," Damn Girl!". Yeah, that dude gave her HPV, but she had jeans on that day...
This is true.
OR, she could be having a nice day and feeling good and sexy and may be willing to give one of these guys the time of day. Unfortunately we men won't know unless we try right?
with awareness and all this video is doing is shining a light on a situation that women have to deal with. It doesn't matter what she looks like, what neighborhood she's in or what she's wearing. It's not some blanket statement admonishing every man and condemning the act of trying to meet someone of the opposite sex. It's not a vanity, look at me, attention whore project either. I find it interesting that some are jumping to these conclusions based on nothing and getting all riled up because an organization wants to change behavior that some women (rightfully so) would consider harassing and, in some cases, threatening. The fact that this woman is receiving threats against her is disturbing but unfortunately not shocking in the least and somewhat expected when factoring in the overreaction by so many.
There's a better venue. Having a sidewalk in common isn't a really a whole lot to hang your hat on. Go sit I a coffee shop or a book store. Put yourself in a position to have something in common with them other than some pavement.
Guys can be pretty nuts though. My wife texted me a couple weeks ago that the guy working on the ceiling in her office was blatantly hitting on her. I don't take offense to that sort of thing but this time I thought it was a bit much as she is six months pregnant. Who hits on a pregnant chick?
I don't know, I guess a dick and balls make you do weird shit sometimes.
This is amplified in NYC where the streets are crawling with women and dudes in pursuit, and this population tends to be more aggressive as a people, more forward with their interest, etc. Let her walk around the LES on a Saturday night and it will be much, much worse.
The key is act with class, treat with respect, make her laugh. Those things are easily done in a manner that actually attracts a woman regardless of location. There's so much shite social programming in our society confusing simple things.
Preggo chicks is a big time fetish for some of us. Â
Men approach, women decide. Been that way forever. The same behavior can be sweet or creepy depending on the source. This is all very basic stuff, so yawn.
Any grand experiment that gets uploaded to youtube has about as much science around it as a Randy alien thread.
And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
I think the resolution is on guys to maybe stop trying to approach women on the street and leave them alone.
Well I think that's silly. What happens when she sees the guy on the street that she WANTS to talk to her but doesn't because of her video?
She can go talk to him?
So it isn't ok for men to approach random women on the street, but it is perfectly fine for a woman to do it? What if he isn't interested in the attention, maybe she is the 100th girl to try some pick up line on him as he was just trying to walk through the city for 10 straight hours?
Or are you saying that there should be different rules and laws for different genders? Should it be, say a $50 fine for speaking to a woman in public unless spoken to first, with a chance for that fine to be waived if the verbally assaulted female in question finds the male perp appealing? Maybe we should have a national attractiveness scoring system for men, so we know before we open our mouths the likelihood of being ticketed for the offense? Or should we have a red strip running down the sidewalk for women who want to be approached? Walk in the red strip and she's asking for it. What's the answer really? And once we do fix it, what inane thing are we going to have to fix next?
That was the point, only way to respond to the stupidity and hypocrisy of your own. But I should have assumed you were to slow to pick up on the tongue in cheek nature of it, so he I am holding your hand through it. You are welcome.
with awareness and all this video is doing is shining a light on a situation that women have to deal with. It doesn't matter what she looks like, what neighborhood she's in or what she's wearing. It's not some blanket statement admonishing every man and condemning the act of trying to meet someone of the opposite sex. It's not a vanity, look at me, attention whore project either. I find it interesting that some are jumping to these conclusions based on nothing and getting all riled up because an organization wants to change behavior that some women (rightfully so) would consider harassing and, in some cases, threatening. The fact that this woman is receiving threats against her is disturbing but unfortunately not shocking in the least and somewhat expected when factoring in the overreaction by so many.
"How are you doing this morning?" is street harassment?
Jeez.
And now I have a nearly 12 month old daughter... Fml.
"How are you doing this morning?" is street harassment?
Jeez.
Cam, a woman summed it up already better than I could:- I believe it is absolutely harassment within this context and environment:
"Most of us have (to one degree or another) a socially-conditioned reflex to be polite and respond to someone who greets us. Each of those comments, even the "have a nice day" ones come with an implicit obligation to respond. Imagine if once every six minutes all day some stranger expected you to respond to them simply because they wanted you to.
It's not one incident, it's the constant weight of expectations."
Good times, believe me. That particular video is pretty mild stuff.
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Secondly, I expected much worse.
"How are you doing this morning?" is street harassment?
Jeez.
Cam, a woman summed it up already better than I could:- I believe it is absolutely harassment within this context and environment:
"Most of us have (to one degree or another) a socially-conditioned reflex to be polite and respond to someone who greets us. Each of those comments, even the "have a nice day" ones come with an implicit obligation to respond. Imagine if once every six minutes all day some stranger expected you to respond to them simply because they wanted you to.
It's not one incident, it's the constant weight of expectations."
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You're the Pete Rose of BBI. No HOF for you!
But if they were able to put something together of dudes staring at her T&A throughout the day, now that would've been a better window into the ridiculousness of men.
I guess it's really the situation that makes the difference.
Gimme a break.
Pretty sure he got a new set of heels and wanted pointers.
Yeah, well, what about that looney Aussie who kept going around saying "G'Day" to everyone. Shit, he couldn't even walk down the street without causing a mess!
The two guys walking with her, no doubt. If she told him to piss off, he would have left earlier.
How many of you have walked down the street with people saying hello? After 10 hrs it would be annoying, I guess. But a few block walk and a half dozen hellos isn't harassment.
Interesting POV.
If a woman wants your opinion on her beauty or looks, she'll ask you for it.
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I was thinking the same thing. She wasn't really particularly attractive. She wasn't ugly and she had curves in places a man could admire. But, she also wasn't a beautiful woman with an "ideal" body. What would this video have yielded with a more attractive woman.
H07, no. I strongly believe the backdrop and culture of NYC heavily influences the example in the video above.
Southern Hospitality, for instance, a 'Howdja do' upon some southern amble is different.
To me its all highly contextual, and a reminder that in a country this large there ought to be very little application of one size fits all.
Good times, believe me. That particular video is pretty mild stuff.
I was anti gun about a year ago....
If she does, she's leading them on.
It's absolutely harrassment. Nobody is saying things to her just to be nice.
Yeah I can see how that would get confused with
"Somebody's acknowledging you for being beautiful. You should say thank you."
Is it really an everyday experience if it takes 10 hours of walking to yield 2 min of video?
The guys who walked with her, Mr Silent and Mr AmI Ugly, took it way to far but the majority while unwanted I would say fall short of harassment.
sheesh
Relax Matt. it's not big deal. She was only harassed over 100 times over the course of the day
If you raised your hand, then sure acting like those clowns in that video is probably your only option to get a woman to talk to you.
Right, it seems that they're complaining about it bothers you the most. Which is ironic.
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
Are you really that dense? "You can't blame guys for trying" -- actually, you can. When catcalling and harassing makes someone feel uncomfortable and unsafe, it's not okay and is not something that should be forgiven or seen as no big deal.
Also, you think the guy walking beside her for 5 minutes noticed a hidden camera in the backpack of the guy walking ahead of them? Yeah, I'm sure that was it... he had no other intention there
You can't blame guys for trying although some need to smooth out their approach.
As for the guy who walked along side her for five minutes...maybe he was just curious as to why some woman was walking around town with a camera five feet in front of her.
The bottom line...this woman is trying to smear all men because of the behavior of a handful of crude men carefully selected from ten hours of video.
I seen sexual harrassment in action and this ain't it.
Ah, there's the racist card. Lovely.
Also, you do realize, and you would if you were paying attention to the beginning, but the camera is hidden. The guy wasn't walking with her because he was curious about the camera, lol. Come on now.
Absolutely. It gets her name out there. I mean it won't amount to much, but at least she'll get her 15 minutes of fame...like the Drake Starbucks Hands guy.
But the charity...I just don't get it. And I don't get these anti-bullying charities either. Unless the money is going to be used as bribes to NOT do such things, I don't see how they help. Hitting on women and bullying will always be a part of society. No ifs, ands or buts about it. No amount of money or "sensitivity training" will change that
Ok then.
One of those words took a swing at her. True story.
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every day of her life.
One of those words took a swing at her. True story.
It takes a certain kind of ego to be either unable or unwilling to imagine that it must be a real pain in the ass to be talked to like that by creeps in the street all fucking day. Much less followed.
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One of those words took a swing at her. True story.
Ahhh, the old "sticks and stones..." argument...nice.
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Still beats the hell out of being accused for adultery and then stoned to death by her family & neighbors.
I get it. You're acknowledging the problem but basically saying you don't care about it. That's understandable, but you might consider whether you don't care about it because you don't have to deal with it.
Honestly New Yorkers build up a shield to this kind of stuff. When I moved down here, I was very uncomfortable with everyone being so nice and speaking to you. It broke the 'never make eye contact' rule from NY. It was a bit hard to get used to, but now I like it.
it seems like its a lose lose.
I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
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I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
What is clear though, is that the video is being confirmed by many posters here who think it is ok to interact with women in however they deem fit, and they should get a response.
Whip it out and tell her you're her daddy.
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be incredibly good looking and well dressed.
I still don't see this as harassment, and yes, I've had to deal with it. If this wasn't an experiment, she probably would have told those two guys who were following her to fuck off and they would have.
Some of the guys were following her for a long time pretty much demanding a response. If you don't see that as harassment I don't know what to tell you?
As I said, if she told them to get lost, they would have. And I said that those two were the exception.
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i think those werent so bad but then how do you strike a convo with her...
Here's a hint. You don't know someone, err on the side of minding your own business. If you are saying Hello to be nice, it will probably come across as such. If you don't get a response, that's what you get for addressing someone you don't know.
What is clear though, is that the video is being confirmed by many posters here who think it is ok to interact with women in however they deem fit, and they should get a response.
ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
People are capable of dealing with all kinds of shit that they just shouldn't have to deal with in the first place.
The guy wearing a G-Unit crewneck saying good morning should be held to the same standard as the guy in a suit asking a girl if she'd like to grab a drink. It's annoying, probably unfair; but so is life. This is not utopia.
The ironic thing about this video is that it is about as attention whore as it gets. Her claim at the end for some donation to stop this "harassment" is weaksauce level over 9000.
7 billion people
3.5B males
10% are inappropriate towards women
350 million people to change!
At least 5 people who care about this on this thread
70 million people for each of them to change
Get started protecting women from minor annoyances in public!
ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
Daaaaaaaammn, mami!"
Obviously.
As to the “what are men supposed to do” and “you can’t ban pickup lines” posts, I would agree to an extent but following basic rules of common sense and decency should be enough….like maybe not thinking a shout out to a women walking on the streets is a good approach and perhaps saying hello in a normal way while in line with said woman or in some other situation where it would be more natural might be the way to go….just spitballin’ here.
Who is talking about making it illegal?
Greg earlier mentioned "First World Problems"...maybe so. How do you think the first world remains the first world?
Be concerned with civility. Be concerned with respect. Be concerned with dignity.
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ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
Daaaaaaaammn, mami!"
Obviously.
hahaha those are the low lifes. The removal of low lifes would be the only way but what about the average person. Again, there would be no way to stop this girl and try to strike conversation without looking like a creep.
Maybe...don't? On the street? Don't try to stop her?
My wife has to walk 15 blocks per day, and she is a very good looking blonde girl walking 15 blocks in new york city, I asked her this and showed her the video she said no its not like that at all. Sometimes i talk on the phone with her while she walks and i have never heard once of this. You gotta understand that thick bitch is walking through the ghetto too not in a very 'classy' area
Delete this shit
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ok so you just cant approach a girl that you think is attractive? there is no way to do it
Daaaaaaaammn, mami!"
Obviously.
I prefer the Rock's line of "Hey Mama"
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Because it will open up pandora's box. If 95% of the behavior in this video somehow became illegal (impossible anyway), then that basically means no man can approach a girl in any capacity. The law can't make a rule on how good or bad someone's game of slinging strange is.
Who is talking about making it illegal?
Greg earlier mentioned "First World Problems"...maybe so. How do you think the first world remains the first world?
Be concerned with civility. Be concerned with respect. Be concerned with dignity.
So what you are saying is that BBI is not in the First World?
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
lol. Do you perchance also hang out on PUA forums?
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Still beats the hell out of being accused for adultery and then stoned to death by her family & neighbors.
I am firmly in the camp of "that's really low class and annoying", but your last sentence added another perspective. In this country we are now in a phase where no one should experience any discomfort in their life. Maybe lack of exposure to true daily hardship has allowed us to become hypersensitive to life's little annoyances and discomforts
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A) that's different than cat-calling and B) both are creepy when done by fat and/or dirty scummers who should stick to other fat, gross people in Wal-Mart or Pizza Hut or w/e. Stay in your element.
If you make an effort in life and have something to offer women, they'll welcome the attention if it's properly given out. Since we're talking first impressions based largely on appearance, it usually starts with you being in shape and not wearing a disgusting undershirt in public with your fat hanging out the bottom.
lol. Do you perchance also hang out on PUA forums?
It does have that feel. Points off for no mention of aesthetics.
This is exactly what I was getting at, albeit in a much more polite manner. Nowhere was I arguing that catcalls are a good thing. I've said repeatedly that I'm sure it's pretty damned irritating. The point is that there is no divine right to not be annoyed or uncomfortable. I've got a neighbor who works on his goddamned boat and ATVs all the time, revving those damned engines for what seems like hours on end when I'm in my backyard hammock, trying to relax or read. I have fantasized about those engines simply blowing up in his face. Ultimately, though, what can you do? I'm learning to ignore it. It's really not that hard.
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How odd that their social graces aren't up to snuff. I don't care to be painted with the same broad brush as these deadbeats who have no place to be.
-GiantFilthy
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and none of us can even debate that.
How odd that their social graces aren't up to snuff. I don't care to be painted with the same broad brush as these deadbeats who have no place to be.
I read an article that said the video was racist because most of the guys commenting to her were minorities.
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Saw a lot of people hanging around doing nothing in the middle of the day.
How odd that their social graces aren't up to snuff. I don't care to be painted with the same broad brush as these deadbeats who have no place to be.
I read an article that said the video was racist because most of the guys commenting to her were minorities.
is it her fault they were mostly minorities?
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is it her fault they were mostly minorities?
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Saw a lot of people hanging around doing nothing in the middle of the day.
How odd that their social graces aren't up to snuff. I don't care to be painted with the same broad brush as these deadbeats who have no place to be.
I read an article that said the video was racist because most of the guys commenting to her were minorities.
Well, that's dumb. It's only racist if she edited out instances of white dudes saying things. I guarantee you if there were a bunch of Wall Street Ivy League bros or big wig executive types harassing her, that would have made the cut.
She walked in areas where she knew she'd encounter a bunch of no class bozos, then used the footage to make a general statement about an entire gender.
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Seriously though, me and my wife have a Food Lion right down the street from us that we go to and every single time she goes alone there's at least one guy who tries to talk to her. It's become a running joke of sorts. But my wife knows that because she's a pretty woman that's going to happen and has pretty much accepted it and as long as no one touches her or goes to far in their pursuit, I take it as a compliment just as she does. Perhaps this woman should too. I agree that the guy who was following her and one or two others fall into that 'pursuing too long' category... but sheesh, now it's considered wrong to say 'Hi' or 'Good Morning' to someone?
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
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as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
true but oh well... you walked through all lowlifes. This shouldnt be news to her. Now have her do this in a better environment. Doesnt happen.
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In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
I just assume anyone who talks to me wants to engage in coitus.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
One solution would be to take the onus off of men to be the one who initiates conversation 99% of the time.
Don't want to be bothered by the bottom rung of male society? Establish a willingness to be equals when it comes to dating, as opposed to passively waiting for someone who meets your standards to ask you out.
There are many approaches to meeting women, and while this may be an example of the worst possible way, when you put it exclusively in our hands you're going to run the gamut.
She wasn't harassed. She knew what she was doing. And she dressed accordingly to elicit a specific response. That any news program is granting a second of airtime to this garbage is an indictment of how horrible news reporting is these days.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
I think I heard one "Have a nice evening." and the guy who followed her for 5 minutes said the most innocent thing...then followed her for 5 minutes.
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GiantFilthy : 12:30 pm : link : reply
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
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buford : 12:44 pm : link : reply
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
That's true, but if a woman personalizes this, that's the problem. They aren't talking to her as much as they probably talk to every woman that passes by. So I wouldn't be flattered or bothered by it. That is what they are doing, it really doesn't have anything to do with me. Of course the guys who follow her down the street, that is a different story. But honestly I've never had an issue with brushing someone off by being direct.
I know I'm probably going to catch shit for this, but it seems women that do complain about this are really upset because they don't believe certain guys have the right to talk to them. They believe they are way too good for those guys and those guys should understand that and not address them at all. Just MHO.
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as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
That's a poor analogy, IMO - additionally, the men have ~6+ inches and 50+ pounds on her. You and I can most likely do something about a man following us around for a period of time - a woman probably can't without going to someone else.
It's not merely people bothering her while she's going about her day, but the potential intimidation factor associated with it - particularly at night.
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GiantFilthy : 12:30 pm : link : reply
as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
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buford : 12:44 pm : link : reply
Well, yes. But is that a bad thing? Guys want to meet girls and have sex with them. Thank God, otherwise we'd go extinct.
Well I think that's up each individual lady walking the street. Some I'd imagine would love the attention briefly. If however it was every day, I can't see it not being frustrating. And I can see that frustration eventually turning what was at first minor annoyances into things you might consider harassment. At least it may feel that way to the girl.
But that's just my take. Girls are weird and gross and who knows what the hell goes on in that brain?
That's true, but if a woman personalizes this, that's the problem. They aren't talking to her as much as they probably talk to every woman that passes by. So I wouldn't be flattered or bothered by it. That is what they are doing, it really doesn't have anything to do with me. Of course the guys who follow her down the street, that is a different story. But honestly I've never had an issue with brushing someone off by being direct.
I know I'm probably going to catch shit for this, but it seems women that do complain about this are really upset because they don't believe certain guys have the right to talk to them. They believe they are way too good for those guys and those guys should understand that and not address them at all. Just MHO.
I also feel that most people shouldn't have a right to talk to me because I'm too good for them.
Go to the bars, clubs, online dating, places where women are dressed up & clearly seeking attention form the opposite sex.
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as was said earlier, that is assuming that every "hi" and "good morning" was just pleasantry without any strings attached. You and I both know that if she answers back with a pleasantry of her own, the average male is going to take that as a signal for conversation, and step one to getting dat bootaaay.
In other words, I'd bet the vast majority couldn't care less how good her morning is but would like to make her morning better with a little D.
Filthy one - then she has the choice to continue to ignore them OR video herself going through what EVERY other pretty woman (and maybe even some not so pretty ones) have to go through each day of their lives. This video is pretty much a 'Duh?' video to me. Especially considering that she's wearing such form fitting clothing and before anyone says it, I'm not saying that she shouldn't be able to wear what she wants to wear and not be harassed but that's simply not the world we live in.
This video is the equivalent of me wearing a Giants jersey and videotaping myself walking through the streets of Philly for 10 hours and showing everyone the reactions I get. Sure, it'd be nice to know that I could walk around the streets of Philly with a Giants jersey on and know that I won't be harassed... but again, that's not the world we live in... nor will it ever be.
So basically what she's saying in that video is 'Hey everybody! I'm a pretty girl and I'm going to wear these tight pants and walk around throughout the city and watch how many guys try to holla at me.... and oh yeah, please send a donation so that we can stop this from happening because I'm very annoyed by this and hopefully we can stop ALL men from trying to come on to pretty women who are walking down the street!".
That's a poor analogy, IMO - additionally, the men have ~6+ inches and 50+ pounds on her. You and I can most likely do something about a man following us around for a period of time - a woman probably can't without going to someone else.
It's not merely people bothering her while she's going about her day, but the potential intimidation factor associated with it - particularly at night.
It may not be the best but I think it's an apt one. And she seemed to have no problem handling herself for 10 hours (at least the 10 hours she allowed us to see). Not to mention, she's only showed us what SHE wants us to see... what about the guys who approached her in a respectful way? What about the guys who she actually perhaps stopped and talked to? How do we even know she did this for actually 10 hours?
And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
I think the resolution is on guys to maybe stop trying to approach women on the street and leave them alone.
Go to the bars, clubs, online dating, places where women are dressed up & clearly seeking attention form the opposite sex.
Some would argue that she's clearly seeking attention by the way she's dressed.... which, again, she has a right to do.. but then don't be surprised by the reaction you get from others (hence my likening this to me wearing a Giants jersey around Philly). And for everyone woman like her who doesn't appreciate the way she's getting approached there is another woman who enjoys it and may have stopped and talked to one of those guys. How are we supposed to know the difference?
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And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
I think the resolution is on guys to maybe stop trying to approach women on the street and leave them alone.
Well I think that's silly. What happens when she sees the guy on the street that she WANTS to talk to her but doesn't because of her video?
You don't know what some woman just walking down the street minding her business has going on. Shit, she could be walking home from the doctors office where she just got told she had pussy cancer because she let some dude on the street pick her up and sleep with her by saying," Damn Girl!". Yeah, that dude gave her HPV, but she had jeans on that day...
If I see her at the bar then I'll runningman-chasse-featherstep-heelpull-crossbodylead-grapevine right up to her and see what's up.
You don't know what some woman just walking down the street minding her business has going on. Shit, she could be walking home from the doctors office where she just got told she had pussy cancer because she let some dude on the street pick her up and sleep with her by saying," Damn Girl!". Yeah, that dude gave her HPV, but she had jeans on that day...
This is true.
OR, she could be having a nice day and feeling good and sexy and may be willing to give one of these guys the time of day. Unfortunately we men won't know unless we try right?
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And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
I think the resolution is on guys to maybe stop trying to approach women on the street and leave them alone.
Well I think that's silly. What happens when she sees the guy on the street that she WANTS to talk to her but doesn't because of her video?
She can go talk to him?
Take Mr. Clarence's advice.
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Guys can be pretty nuts though. My wife texted me a couple weeks ago that the guy working on the ceiling in her office was blatantly hitting on her. I don't take offense to that sort of thing but this time I thought it was a bit much as she is six months pregnant. Who hits on a pregnant chick?
I don't know, I guess a dick and balls make you do weird shit sometimes.
The key is act with class, treat with respect, make her laugh. Those things are easily done in a manner that actually attracts a woman regardless of location. There's so much shite social programming in our society confusing simple things.
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Men approach, women decide. Been that way forever. The same behavior can be sweet or creepy depending on the source. This is all very basic stuff, so yawn.
Any grand experiment that gets uploaded to youtube has about as much science around it as a Randy alien thread.
Great think piece for the bored internet though.
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Fuckin idiots..
Fuckin idiots..
What's the difference between a sperm bank and a savings bank?
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You don't harrass the pussy, you take a mental picture of dat ass and make a deposit into the spank bank..
Fuckin idiots..
What's the difference between a sperm bank and a savings bank?
Answer... In the sperm bank, after making a deposit you LOSE interest.
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And lastly Brett... what to you propose to do to resolve the issue?
I think the resolution is on guys to maybe stop trying to approach women on the street and leave them alone.
Well I think that's silly. What happens when she sees the guy on the street that she WANTS to talk to her but doesn't because of her video?
She can go talk to him?
Or are you saying that there should be different rules and laws for different genders? Should it be, say a $50 fine for speaking to a woman in public unless spoken to first, with a chance for that fine to be waived if the verbally assaulted female in question finds the male perp appealing? Maybe we should have a national attractiveness scoring system for men, so we know before we open our mouths the likelihood of being ticketed for the offense? Or should we have a red strip running down the sidewalk for women who want to be approached? Walk in the red strip and she's asking for it. What's the answer really? And once we do fix it, what inane thing are we going to have to fix next?
10 hours walking in Skyrim as a woman in skimpy armor - ( New Window )
.....well now I need a new move.
Spot on
Ummm....OK