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NFT: Jordan and Barkley no longer friends

DanMetroMan : 10/29/2014 1:19 pm
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Barkley: It is unfortunate. We’re not friendly, but I still love him. He’s doing a good job now. What is interesting about your question is Phil Jackson actually said the same thing I said and I wonder if he still speaks to Phil Jackson. I said Michael had to get rid of the people around him. You can’t have your friends working for you; you’ve got to surround yourself with good basketball people. He had not done that. I love what he did with Al Jefferson. I love him going out and getting Lance [Stephenson]. I love the kid Noah Vonleh from Indiana. He’s done a good job, but he had not done a good job up until then. It’s obviously put a strain on our relationship and we’re not together anymore.

Is it in Michael’s personality to pick up the phone and reach out to you?

Barkley: No (laughs). And it’s not in my personality either. (laughs). I’m not going to call up and apologize for saying what I said. They were setting the record for the worst team in NBA history and I said Michael just has to do a better job. He had to get rid of the flunkies around him and hire real basketball people. He does that now. They have been doing a great job since he got rid of his flunkies and hired basketball people. But he [Michael] can’t hear the good stuff.
That's sad.  
Stu : 10/29/2014 1:27 pm : link
I thought they'd be friends forever.
With each passing year  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/29/2014 1:34 pm : link
MJ sounds more and more like an asshole.
I don't follow the NBA  
Curtis in VA : 10/29/2014 1:35 pm : link
but it seems like the players personal lives (who they're friends with, who they married, what they ate for breakfast) garner as much attention as their professional lives, more so than any other sport. Weird.
RE: I don't follow the NBA  
Dunedin81 : 10/29/2014 1:37 pm : link
In comment 11946731 Curtis in VA said:
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but it seems like the players personal lives (who they're friends with, who they married, what they ate for breakfast) garner as much attention as their professional lives, more so than any other sport. Weird.


It's a star-driven league. Yeah the Lakers are huge (if temporarily shitty), yeah the Knicks are a big market and a great basketball town, but the strength of the game in terms of rating and marketing has a lot more to do with the names on the back of the jersey than those on the front of it. Because names and faces are recognizable, their personal lives are part of the story.
MJ...  
Chris in Philly : 10/29/2014 1:40 pm : link
is as big a douche as he was great a player...
back when jordan played  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/29/2014 1:58 pm : link
If he saw an article in the paper that he felt was overly critical of him, he would routinely boycott the entire media for an indefinite period of time to teach them a lesson, only granting access to ahmad rashad who was one of his best friends. When the gambling stories came out in the 93 playoffs during the conference finals, he did not speak to the media at all until after the finals were over, basically to punish them for a story that ran in the ny post. It would be very interesting seeing him try to operate in the social media age today, with widespread internet and tmz and all that good stuff
You can see how petty MJ is by  
Moondwg : 10/29/2014 2:03 pm : link
finding his Hall of Fame induction speech online.
RE: With each passing year  
rsjem1979 : 10/29/2014 2:10 pm : link
In comment 11946727 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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MJ sounds more and more like an asshole.


It's what made him a great player. He was, and is, an absolute MFer.
Most ultra successful people are assholes  
Blue Baller : 10/29/2014 2:13 pm : link
many are borderline psychopaths

RE: Most ultra successful people are assholes  
Moondwg : 10/29/2014 2:15 pm : link
In comment 11946802 Blue Baller said:
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many are borderline psychopaths


Yep.
Not sure how this makes MJ a douche  
chris r : 10/29/2014 2:19 pm : link
A bad owner yes, but not a douche.
The reason why jordan was so great  
dep026 : 10/29/2014 2:31 pm : link
Is the same reason he's such a prick. No one never said he didn't have an ego.

And let's face it, the ownership business was probably the first time he ever endured so much failure. I am sure when it's all said and done he will retain his friendship with barely and the few others he came close too.
RE: The reason why jordan was so great  
chris r : 10/29/2014 2:33 pm : link
In comment 11946841 dep026 said:
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And let's face it, the ownership business was probably the first time he ever endured so much failure.


Baseball
he likely handles the media just fine today  
UConn4523 : 10/29/2014 2:36 pm : link
people adapt, and dealing with more criticism from any and all angles is something I don't think would phase him one bit.
RE: RE: The reason why jordan was so great  
glowrider : 10/29/2014 4:21 pm : link
In comment 11946848 chris r said:
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In comment 11946841 dep026 said:


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And let's face it, the ownership business was probably the first time he ever endured so much failure.



Baseball


He did better at baseball than he would've done with a year long ban from Basketball.
There are certain athletes that transcend sport and fame  
glowrider : 10/29/2014 4:24 pm : link
And become legends, period. Michael Jordan has always been a genuine legend in his own time.

Always been a selfish prick - and that's where his killer instinct on the court comes out. I bet he'd still ball hard in today's league with a month of conditioning.

He's a Lawrence Taylor without the charm.
most ultra successful people are assholes?  
bc4life : 10/29/2014 6:26 pm : link
That hate-orade is a tasty beverage.
RE: Most ultra successful people are assholes  
ed90631 : 10/29/2014 7:00 pm : link
In comment 11946802 Blue Baller said:
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many are borderline psychopaths

Jealous
RE: Most ultra successful people are assholes  
Darren in TR : 10/30/2014 5:17 am : link
In comment 11946802 Blue Baller said:
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many are borderline psychopaths


That is absolutely untrue.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/30/2014 6:00 am : link
Barkley, an NBA analyst, was absolutely right in his criticism of MJ.
maybe being successful  
Pork and Beans : 10/30/2014 7:35 am : link
Makes some people excuse personality flaws, but there are plenty of successful people who act like humans. Eli and Peyton for an example.
I never believed  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/30/2014 8:38 am : link
MJ was capable of having friends. He comes across as an all-time asshole and I imagined the people around him were those who merely wanted to bask in the glow of his star power.
RE: ...  
Chris in Philly : 10/30/2014 8:53 am : link
In comment 11947796 SanFranGiantsFan said:
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Barkley, an NBA analyst, was absolutely right in his criticism of MJ.


And MJ was absolutely a douche for taking it personally and not being friends with Barkley anymore...
there is a clear case for mj as a douche  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/30/2014 9:24 am : link
But in this instance i think its more yet another example of his stunning sensitivity. He was an assassin, one of the most competitive people to ever live, but he was and is also extremely sensitive to any and all criticism thrown in his way. As much as any athlete who has ever lived. Whether it be his media boycotts as a player or the boycott he still has to this day against sports illustrated because he didnt like a cover they ran 20 years ago when he played baseball. Or breaking off 30 year friendships because someone made a comment about your gm skills
RE: I never believed  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 9:27 am : link
In comment 11947865 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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MJ was capable of having friends. He comes across as an all-time asshole and I imagined the people around him were those who merely wanted to bask in the glow of his star power.


Friend of mine has seen/met Jordan a few times at a restaurant he frequents, both times with Patrick Ewing so on the surface those 2 remain "friends".
RE: Most ultra successful people are assholes  
Psycho : 10/30/2014 9:43 am : link
In comment 11946802 Blue Baller said:
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many are borderline psychopaths


And some people don't know the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath...
RE: RE: Most ultra successful people are assholes  
Chris in Philly : 10/30/2014 11:43 am : link
In comment 11947954 Psycho said:
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many are borderline psychopaths




And some people don't know the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath...


Good point, Socio...
I guess I fall into that category  
Blue Baller : 10/30/2014 12:29 pm : link
What is the Difference?

Psychologists tend to break down the two groups by certain factors, and they have a lot in common. Both tend to be charming, despite being unable to empathize normally with others. They offer convincing systems of fear and disgust, but tend to lack both. Here’s the crux, though: Psychopaths cross the line. Sociopaths may hole up in their houses and remove themselves from society, while a psychopath is busy in his basement rigging shackles to his furnace.


So Cam is a psycohpath...learn something new every day!
RE: There are certain athletes that transcend sport and fame  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 12:33 pm : link
In comment 11947102 glowrider said:
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He's a Lawrence Taylor without the charm.


I can see that comparison. LT at least had a sense of humor.
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