FOX News Channel (FNC) will present a new documentary entitled "The Man Who Killed Usama Bin Laden" hosted by Washington correspondent Peter Doocy, on Tuesday, November 11th and Wednesday, November 12th from 10-11PM/ET.
The two-night presentation will feature an exclusive interview with the Navy SEAL who says he fired the shots that killed terrorist leader Usama Bin Laden. In the special, he describes the events leading up to and during the historical raid that took place on May 1st, 2011.
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We are all very impressed with you, Nate.
Yes because only Fox News would take advantage!
Yeah guys who risk their lives are a huge embarrassment. Fuck you
And you know this how?
While these are merely anecdotal on my part, my brother (who is an Army special forces officer with multiple combat deployments) have told me about all of the assholes, who he's met while in the special forces. I've also worked with my share of special operators from all service, who turned out to be some of the least respectable service members I've had the displeasure of working with. Long story short, we don't know the true motive of this guy (or anyone else) for coming out, and to say that it's some kind of a calculated PR or information operations by SOCOM is pure speculation at best.
Eh, not really. The story has been covered to death (no pun intended) over the past 3 years from practically all sides. IMO, while the work of the Seals and others on that mission that night was amazing, the most intriguing aspect of the whole story was the years of what led to that one night.
Also, I'm always left to wonder exactly what would have happened if the Pakistani military came upon the Seals that night in Pakistan. WW3 as they try to fight there way out or does the U.S. actually turn their back on the men to try and avoid the embarrassment?
No U.S. policy would allow the government to turn its back on a special operations unit conducting a covert operation. Now the U.S. government does have a policy that it may deny knowledge and/or responsibilities of clandestine operations being conducted on foreign soil. That's the difference between covert and clandestine, and this was a clear case of a covert military operation and not a clandestine agency operation. So if the Pakistani force would have used deadly force against our special operators, our government would have had the operators' backs.
While these are merely anecdotal on my part, my brother (who is an Army special forces officer with multiple combat deployments) have told me about all of the assholes, who he's met while in the special forces. I've also worked with my share of special operators from all service, who turned out to be some of the least respectable service members I've had the displeasure of working with. Long story short, we don't know the true motive of this guy (or anyone else) for coming out, and to say that it's some kind of a calculated PR or information operations by SOCOM is pure speculation at best.
This. And from my dealings and what others have told me, Seals are the worst when it comes to being attention seeking assholes.
You have to give him some credit though, as he's been a huge consumer of the fear mongering by Fox News (among other network news channels) regarding the Ebola epidemic and the impending apacolypse. So he isn't completely anti-FNC.
Nah I know its true cause they said it on msnbc :)
I wish guys who work in silence, would sometimes stay in silence..
Blind leading the blind.
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At this point, does anyone really care?
Eh, not really. The story has been covered to death (no pun intended) over the past 3 years from practically all sides. IMO, while the work of the Seals and others on that mission that night was amazing, the most intriguing aspect of the whole story was the years of what led to that one night.
Also, I'm always left to wonder exactly what would have happened if the Pakistani military came upon the Seals that night in Pakistan. WW3 as they try to fight there way out or does the U.S. actually turn their back on the men to try and avoid the embarrassment?
I think the Pakistani's knew of the operation and turned a blind eye.. Followed up with their strong words the next day just the ease the masses.
Huge team effort was what finally got the job done.
I think the Pakistani's knew of the operation and turned a blind eye.. Followed up with their strong words the next day just the ease the masses.
I doubt that very much. I believe it was critical that the Pakistani's did not know of the operation for it to get the green light.
Back in April, he and some of his SEAL Team 6 colleagues had formed the skeleton of a company to help them transition out of the service. In my yard, he showed everyone his business-card mock-ups. There was only a subtle inside joke reference to their team in the company name.
Unlike former SEAL Team 6 member Matt Bissonnette (No Easy Day), they do not rush to write books or step forward publicly, because that violates the code of the "quiet professional." Someone suggested they might sell customized sunglasses and other accessories special operators often invent and use in the field. It strains credulity that for a commando team leader who never got a single one of his men hurt on a mission, sunglasses would be his best option. And it's a simple truth that those who have been most exposed to harrowing danger for the longest time during our recent unending wars now find themselves adrift in civilian life, trying desperately to adjust, often scrambling just to make ends meet.
At the time, the Shooter's uncle had reached out to an executive at Electronic Arts, hoping that the company might need help with video-game scenarios once the Shooter retired. But the uncle cannot mention his nephew's distinguishing feature as the one who put down bin Laden.
Secrecy is a thick blanket over our Special Forces that inelegantly covers them, technically forever. The twenty-three SEALs who flew into Pakistan that night were directed by their command the day they got back stateside about acting and speaking as though it had never happened.
"Right now we are pretty stacked with consultants," the video-game man responded. "Thirty active and recently retired guys" for one game: Medal of Honor Warfighter. In fact, seven active-duty Team 6 SEALs would later be punished for advising EA while still in the Navy and supposedly revealing classified information. (One retired SEAL, a participant in the bin Laden raid, was also involved.)
With the focus and precision he's learned, the Shooter waits and watches for the right way to exit, and adapt. Despite his foggy future, his past is deeply impressive. This is a man who is very pleased about his record of service to his country and has earned the respect of his peers.
"He's taken monumental risks," says the Shooter's dad, struggling to contain the frustration that roughs the edges of his deep pride in his son. "But he's unable to reap any reward."
It's not that there isn't one. The U.S. government put a $25 million bounty on bin Laden that no one is likely to collect. Certainly not the SEALs who went on the mission nor the support and intelligence experts who helped make it all possible. Technology is the key to success in this case more than people, Washington officials have said.
The Shooter doesn't care about that. "I'm not religious, but I always felt I was put on the earth to do something specific. After that mission, I knew what it was."
Others also knew, from the commander-in-chief on down. The bin Laden shooting was a staple of presidential-campaign brags. One big-budget movie, several books, and a whole drawerful of documentaries and TV films have fortified the brave images of the Shooter and his ST6 Red Squadron members.
There is commerce attached to the mission, and people are capitalizing. Just not the triggerman. While others collect, he is cautious and careful not to dishonor anyone. His manners come at his own expense.
"No one who fights for this country overseas should ever have to fight for a job," Barack Obama said last Veterans' Day, "or a roof over their head, or the care that they have earned when they come home."
But the Shooter will discover soon enough that when he leaves after sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:
Nothing. No pension, no healthcare for his wife and kids, no protection for himself or his family.
Also, what was the circumstance behind him leaving active duty after 16 years without a medical discharge? Only reasons why you leave with such little time left before retirement without a medical retirement is that you either found something so enticing outside of the military that you just have to leave (which it doesn't sound like the case here) or you messed up and you are administratively being discharged. Now if he was so disillusioned by the military that he made a conscious decision to part so close to retirement age, then that definitely is also a possibility of leaving with so many years in.
It'll be interesting to see why he left, why he's coming out, and why on Fox News of all channels.
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Lot of them end up working with the contractors (Triple Canopy, Xi etc) for a big bump in pay.
Lot of them end up working with the contractors (Triple Canopy, Xi etc) for a big bump in pay.
And that's about as dumb as it gets no matter how pissed off you are. And the whole Triple Canopy, Xi and other security related defense contractor jobs are drying up. This isn't mid-2000's when jobs like that were dime a dozen with big pay days.
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Special Operators swear an oath of silence about their work. All of these people that are talking publicly about SEALs, DevGru, SEAL team 6, Delta Force, Night Stalkers are an embarrassment.
Yeah guys who risk their lives are a huge embarrassment. Fuck you
No, people that go public with Classified information, i.e. Special Operations are the embarrassment, and if they are former SO, then so be it. thank you for your civility.
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“The government does a very good job of sending people to war,” Howard Schultz, the C.E.O. of Starbucks, told me in New York this past week, “and a very poor job of bringing them home.”
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Timing of the dude revealing himself on FoxNews? Not sure where you see the connection between the two other than both being on Veterans day.
Oh...my apologies. I thought you were referring to the NYT oped piece. I see what you meant now, and you may be right.
What actually happened the night of the raid, according to the SEAL Team 6 operator who I interviewed, is that the "point man" ran up the stairs to the top floor and shot bin Laden in the head when he saw what looked like bin Laden poking his head out of his bedroom door. The shot gravely wounded al Qaeda's leader.
Having taken down bin Laden, the point man proceeded to rush two women he found in the bedroom, gathering them in his arms to absorb the explosion in case they were wearing suicide vests, something that was a real concern of those who planned the raid.
Two more SEALs then entered bin Laden's bedroom and, seeing that he was lying mortally wounded on the floor, finished him off with shots to the chest.
This account of bin Laden's demise is considerably less heroic than the Shooter's version in Esquire, in which he says he shot bin Laden while he was standing up and only after he saw that the al Qaeda leader had a gun within reach.
The SEAL Team 6 operator who spoke to me says there is no way the Shooter could have seen a gun in bin Laden's reach because the two guns that were found in the bedroom after the shooting were only discovered after a thorough search and were sitting on a high shelf above the frame of the door that opened to the room.
The SEAL operator also points out there was a discussion before the raid in which the assault team was told "don't shoot the guy (bin Laden) in the face unless you have to" because the CIA would need to analyze good pictures of bin Laden's face for its facial recognition experts to work effectively. Yet the Shooter in the Esquire story says he shot bin Laden on purpose twice in the forehead.
A U.S. official familiar with the details of the raid said the SEAL Team 6 operator's version is in line with what happened. That account "has it right in my view," the official said.
The SEAL Team 6 operator also tells CNN that the Shooter was "thrown off" the Red Squadron, the core of the SEAL Team 6 group that carried out the bin Laden raid, because he was bragging about his role in the raid in bars around Virginia Beach, Virginia, where SEAL Team 6 is based. In the Esquire article, the Shooter complains he is receiving no pension, since he left the military four years before the minimum 20 years required to be eligible.
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There's a lot more to that story..
There's a lot more to that story..
Like you know anything about the Navy...pssshhh!
This guy has wife and kids correct? I can't imagine anyone ever going public with this information who has friends and family to protect.
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I'm not calling BS, but i have a hard time beleiveing a guy left the Mavy with 19.5 years..That is almostr impossible. Even if you sign an extension, the Navy wouldn't allow it to be done with 6 months remaining. Most times you cannot even transfter unless you have th requisite time to be on station..
There's a lot more to that story..
Like you know anything about the Navy...pssshhh!
Gman - absolutely true story as weird as it sounds. I didn't hear it from somebody who knew somebody. I heard it from him, backed by his buddy who was still dragging his ass about it and they'd been together a long time.
While I agree with your sentiments overall, if he had gotten prior approval by the military for his book, he would have been good to go. And as long as they aren't divulging classified or protected information, they have a right to talk pending prior approval.
Sources confirmed the copper-jacketed lead NATO-compliant projectile, which hails from Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in northeastern Missouri, says that both O’Neill’s and former SEAL Matt Bissonnette’s accounts of the raid on bin Laden’s Abbottobad compound in 2011 are completely false.
Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/11/navy-seal-team-6-bin-laden-robert-oneill/#ixzz3IUnDEvXV
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I bow down to your masterful words and compassion for those whose lives were spent at the end of a rifle barrel going at 900 meters per second...may their lives gone out in a blaze of glory.
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