NFT: Yankees Official Start of the Hot Stove Season Thread

In comment 11948103 Greg from LI said:

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But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous. That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.

Melky has pop,don't know if it's legal,but he will want to play full time.
Sign Hanley Ramirez for right handed pop.

it might make sense. If he hadn't missed significant time in 3/4 years he would be in line for a massive payday. But his 50 SB speed is all but gone and you have no idea if he's a 30+ HR guy at this point, so you're paying for uncertain offensive production, uncertain position/defensive play and a bad injury history.

If he gets a 5-6 year deal, he'll win one MVP, have two seasons where he plays less than 80 games and on the balance he'll hover around an .800 OPS and get paid a ton to do so.

In comment 11948103 Greg from LI said:

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But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous. That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.

I'll give Ellsbury credit for playing up to expectations. Nobody really expected 25 hrs from him. Maybe with a better lineup behind him he hits .300/.310. Only he and Gardner seemed consistant - until Gardner got hurt at the end of the year.

only is Melky going to play full-time, he will be one of the biggest FA contracts this off-season.

and hang onto their picks.

In comment 11948144 Phil in LA said:

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and hang onto their picks.

I agree so long it is at the right price. I hope they don't over spend on McCarthy. I would prefer they keep their picks. The Yankees were at their best when they had more home grown talent than free agents.

see McCarthy getting 3 for 30-36. Same as Jason Hammel.

fine.

Robertson, too.

absolutely should keep Robertson. QO keeps his price down. 15.3 if he accepts. Why not toss him out a "fair" 2 year extension to that 15.3? Something like 3 for 36 with incentives for games finished and see if he bites? He's an elite reliever.

it's game over after 6 innings.

...with a weak lineup, average rotation but incredible bullpen. The Yankees are unlikely to significantly improve the lineup, so they might as well try to maximize the pitching staff.

In comment 11947947 Zebra3 said:

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Sign SS Hanley 3B Panda P Lester Mcarthy, OF Melky

Sign me up!!!!! Return of the Big Stein!!!

and Webb will also be in the mix for BP, Ramirez, too.

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In comment 11947924 BeerFridge said:

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Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, CC and Shields (sob).

You don't like Shields??? He is a low era, high strikeout pitcher who eats innings. Ok so he had a bad World Series. I would love to have Shields on this team.

In a vacuum, sure, I'd take him, but he's going to get massively overpaid. Let someone else do that.

Whoever signs him will be buying high and riding his career trajectory down.

He's a good player of course. It's the value.

in that article and one that has led to a shitload of unmerited rage. Newman's was not the development job. It was the ops job. His old job years ago was the development job. Roessler was the development guy and his job is still open.

sign below the radar free agents, lester or mccarthy is fine. i can go either way on robertson, but losing him will probably hurt the pen pretty bad.

i would have to think the yankees will find a power bat via trade. i just don't see how they can go in to next season and say they want to win a world series without adding power to this lineup.

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He has been pretty good of late and has played 140+ games in 4/5 years (150+ in 3 of those years). If we do opt for a dedicated DH he wouldn't be the worst pick in the world. Said to be linked to the Brewers though.

DH and can step in at first when Teixeira inevitably hits the DL.

Not sure how you can have a dedicated DH with A-Rod, Tex and Beltran

You're not likely to get more than 100 games out of any of them, plus the fact that there's no reason to believe any of them will hit at all next season.

In comment 11948502 sinctybldh said:

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sign below the radar free agents, lester or mccarthy is fine. i can go either way on robertson, but losing him will probably hurt the pen pretty bad. i would have to think the yankees will find a power bat via trade. i just don't see how they can go in to next season and say they want to win a world series without adding power to this lineup.

Below the radar FA is someone who is going to get 140-160 million? lol

In comment 11948657 BeerFridge said:

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Not sure how you can have a dedicated DH with A-Rod, Tex and Beltran

I would be pleasantly surprised (I guess) if at some point during the season all three aren't simultaneously on the 15 or 60-day DLs. And I will be pleasantly surprised if there is a time during the season where none of them is on a disabled list.

he has done very well thus far.

hitters. there is no hitter worth giving up a draft choice or spending an inordinate amount of money on this off season.

to make room? We need room for free agent signings and minor league players who need to be added to the 40 man roster like tyler austin, pinder, montgomery, and mason williams.

Manny Banuelos
Jose Campos
Shane Greene
Bryan Mitchell
Ivan Nova
David Phelps
Michael Pineda
CC Sabathia
Masahiro Tanaka

Dellin Betances
Preston Claiborne
David Huff
Shawn Kelley
Jose Ramirez
Esmil Rogers
Adam Warren
Chase Whitley

Francisco Cervelli
Brian McCann
John Ryan Murphy
Austin Romine
Gary Sanchez

Jose Pirela
Martin Prado
Alex Rodriguez
Brendan Ryan
Mark Teixeira
Zelous Wheeler
Carlos Beltran
Jacoby Ellsbury
Ramon Flores
Brett Gardner
Slade Heathcott
Eury Perez
Antoan Richardson

he is so far away from the majors and keeps getting injured.

Esmil Rogers and Huff may go, they may not. One of the catchers, maybe more, will be traded (Romine could be DFA'ed if there is no movement on that front). Remember though, the Yanks will add 3-4 prospects, probably Austin, Williams and one or two of the pitchers like Pinder or Burawa, but they will also keep a couple spots open for fodder because that's what they like to do.

montgomery. i hope they can find a spot for him.

they could lose Roller too. I wish they had used him to see what they had in him. If he goes to another team and rakes I am going to be upset.

Also the yanks will talk to Ibanez about a coaching role within the organization.

Roller's K% in Scranton was 28.6% I think it's fair to suspect that there are a few holes in his swing that would be easy for MLB pitchers to exploit.

I feel about having someone with no experience becoming our hitting coach.

or the umps maybe calling balls strikes. He's got very good plate disc.

In comment 11948705 sinctybldh said:

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they could lose Roller too. I wish they had used him to see what they had in him. If he goes to another team and rakes I am going to be upset.

AAAA corner IF rarely get nabbed in the Rule V. He is older and not especially projectable. Could he have a Shelley Duncan-like late blossoming? Sure. But it wasn't like Duncan blossomed into a perennial .900 OPS player, he blossomed into a fringey big-leaguer, which is probably Roller's upside.

Cabrera at SS
Prado at 3B
ARod for 250

Tanaka, CC, Pineda, Scherzer and Greene

Pirela and Refsnyder given the opportunity to compete for the Opening Day 2B job. Prado will likely be a super-sub and with huge question marks in RF and at 3B he can probably get 500 ABs without playing more than 40 or 50 games at 2B. Give youth a chance.

Give him a chance to sink or swim. What do they have to lose, honestly? It's not as if the team is a major title contender other than the question mark at second.

I mentioned Adam LaRoche, either way getting a guy who can play a solid 1B during Teix's inevitable trips to the DL or maybe a solid RF and kick Beltran over to DH more or less full time.

In comment 11949399 Greg from LI said:

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Give him a chance to sink or swim. What do they have to lose, honestly? It's not as if the team is a major title contender other than the question mark at second.

The Yankees have shown times when they are cost conscious and having a cheap player at 2nd would be very attractive to them. I expect them to give him and Pirela a shot and then Prado is the fall back if they both fail to grab the job.

I would still make Prado the "regular" 3B, but have Pirela be the "supersub" all over (he can play regularly at 2B, 3B, RF, LF- and for a game or two, play SS and CF).

I would like to see them at least have Refsynder fight to earn the 2B job in ST.

I agree that the smartest move would be to bring in a prototypical RF and force Beltran to DH. I simply do not see any way that ARod will even be a replacement level player in 2015.

ARod has played in a single season's worth of games in the last 3 years, had surgery on BOTH hips, is 40, and it is unclear how much of his production over the past several years was not PED enhanced. He really can't chance another PED hit, as that would ban him from the game, and make him an even bigger pariah than Pete Rose.

back to topic- Refsynder at 2B, Prado at 3B, Pirela at supersub, new RF (trade), Beltran to DH, new SS (trade) and bring in a vet SP with upside- but ignore the big three (Lester, Shields and Scherzer)- they have too many long contracts at SP for already- don't make the problem worse.

Besides, the Yanks should view 2015 and maybe 2016 as stop-gap year(s)- there is some serious talent coming in 2016 and 2017- Judge in OF, Severino at SP, Bird at 1B and Sanchez at C. There are also good secondary prospects would MIGHT be starters eventually- Jagielo (is he a 3B or OF defensively- power bat plays), Mitchell might be a SP or a power long man, and a boatload of power-armed relievers.

who may not hit the open market and has his own problems, there isn't an obvious big-ticket RF to sign or even acquire.

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#Brewers decline $14.5 million option on Rickie Weeks, team announces. He will be a free agent.

as a special assignment scout.
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has been a good starting point, or restarting point for people.