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Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 8:29 am
Our Opening Day starting SS will be _________.

Our Opening Day starting 3B will be _________.

A-Rod will have 0/250/500 ABs and play most of his games at ________.

Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, _______ and _______.
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section125 : 10/30/2014 8:35 am : link
Opening day 3rd Base - Headley
Opening Day 1st Base - A-Rod - 500 ABs

Opening Day SS - not on roster

No idea on pitchers
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GIANTSr01 : 10/30/2014 8:35 am : link
Our Opening Day starting SS will be _???________.

Our Opening Day starting 3B will be ____Arod_____.

A-Rod will have 0/250/500 ABs and play most of his games at ___3B_____.

Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, _Banuelos______ and _Severino by mid-season ;)______.
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Vin R : 10/30/2014 8:39 am : link
Our Opening Day starting SS will be Drew.

Our Opening Day starting 3B will be A-Rod

A-Rod will have 0/250/500 ABs and play most of his games at 300.

Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, CC and Scherzer
My guesses  
rich in DC : 10/30/2014 8:43 am : link
3B will be Prado.

2B will be Refsynder.

SS will be gained in a trade- maybe Casto (Cubs)?

SP will be CC, Pineda, Tanaka, Greene, and either Phelps or a low upside vet who eats time and innings until one of the minor league arms is ready.

My guess is that ARod gets to spring training and simply does not have anything anymore, leading the Yanks to release him just before the season starts (yes, that means they will pay him $61M for nothing- but they just finished paying him much more than that for three years of nothing before that).
I posted this for us Mets fans but here are the "top 50" FA  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 8:45 am : link


SP:
Lester (31)
Scherzer (30)
Shields (33)
Liriano (31)
McCarthy (31)
Hammel (32)
Masterson (30)
Peavy (34)
ESantana (32)
Volquez (30)

RP:
Robertson (30)
Romo (32)
Janssen (33)
Gregerson (31)
Hochevar (31)
Neshek (34)
Stauffer (32)
Coke (32)
Duke (32)
Miller (30)

C:
Martin (32)
Soto (32)

1B:
LaRoche (35)
Morse (33)
Cuddyer (36)

2B:
Bonifacio (30)
KJohnson (33)
RSantiago (35)

SS:
Hanley (31)
Lowrie (31)
Drew (32)
ACabrera (29)
Barmes (36)

3B:
Sandoval (28)
Headley (31)

OF:
Tomas (24)
MCabrera (30)
Cruz (34)
Denorfia (34)
Willingham (36)
Rasmus (28)
Aoki (33)
Markakis (31)
Rios (34)
Hunter (39)
Ichiro (41)

DH:
Butler (29)
VMart (35)
KMorales (31)
DYoung (29)
If they're going to sign someone old...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 8:57 am : link
for fuck's sake make it Victor Martinez.

I'd rather they not sign Sandoval but his swing at YS would be impressive. Still he will be overpaid because of the WS and I would hope they aren't the ones to overpay him.
I'm not too optimistic, so here's mine.  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 9:27 am : link
Our Opening Day starting SS will be Drew (sob).

Our Opening Day starting 3B will be A-Rod (double sob).

A-Rod will have 250 ABs and play most of his games at DH.

Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, CC and Shields (sob).
my guesses  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 9:35 am : link
SS - Asdrubal Cabrera
3B - Prado
ARod - 250 ABs, majority at DH
rotation: Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, Phelps and McCarthy.
RE: If they're going to sign someone old...  
section125 : 10/30/2014 9:40 am : link
In comment 11947889 Dunedin81 said:
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for fuck's sake make it Victor Martinez.

I'd rather they not sign Sandoval but his swing at YS would be impressive. Still he will be overpaid because of the WS and I would hope they aren't the ones to overpay him.


Can't see Sandoval here. Headley is serviceable enough, if they re-sign and Prado is viable too.

Do not want Shields in any way shape or form.

I guess CC will be there in camp, but I think he is cooked. Sadly he went down hill quickly.
Big stein yankees  
Zebra3 : 10/30/2014 9:41 am : link
Sign
SS Hanley
3B Panda
P Lester Mcarthy,
OF Melky
I  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 9:42 am : link
doubt a Victor Martinez 4 year deal turns out well but man oh man has he been fantastic since mid season 2013. Like BEAST caliber.
I really don't like Headley  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 9:46 am : link
He's going to get way too much for a third baseman who isn't much of a hitter.
RE: I really don't like Headley  
section125 : 10/30/2014 9:51 am : link
In comment 11947960 Greg from LI said:
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He's going to get way too much for a third baseman who isn't much of a hitter.


Yeah, true he didn't show much as a hitter. I don't kow if ARod can hit anymore either after two years of being out.

I also don't expect anything from Teixeira either. Guess they can play Teix and ARod at 1st - that way they can alternately be on the DL.
Nice  
Zebra3 : 10/30/2014 10:04 am : link
Els CF
Prado 2B
Ramirez SS
Tex 1B
Panda 3B
McCann C
Arod DH
Beltran RF
Gardner LF

Staff
Tanaka Lester Pineda ,CC,McCarthy
Playoff team



I don't have any predictions for the Yankees lineup or rotation  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 10:23 am : link
What about Ivan Nova? When do you think will be the earliest he can rejoin the Yankees?

Also, I'm hoping they bring back Robertson. A solid home grown closer is a nice thing to have in my opinion.
I'd be open to Tulo at SS  
mac attack : 10/30/2014 10:27 am : link
If it doesn't cost us Betances or Refsnyder
not optimistic about Nova  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 10:29 am : link
Shoulder injuries are tough to come back from.
Greg  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 10:32 am : link
Shoulder? I thought Nova had Tommy John surgery?
bah, you're right  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 10:33 am : link
Must have been mixing him up with Pineda for some reason
Nova had TJ  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 10:35 am : link
he hurt his shoulder too?
whoops. shoulda refreshed before I commented.  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 10:36 am : link
derp
No worries  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 10:37 am : link
Nova had the surgery early last year, unfortunately for him, but may be fortunate for us. Does the recovery allow for a pitcher to come back to the team within a year? Or, does he rejoin the team mid-year if at all?
He was throwing in September  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 10:38 am : link
He should be available pretty early.
RE: my guesses  
RobotGhost : 10/30/2014 10:40 am : link
In comment 11947934 Greg from LI said:
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SS - Asdrubal Cabrera
3B - Prado
ARod - 250 ABs, majority at DH
rotation: Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, Phelps and McCarthy.


+1 to this lineup, but I do think they sign another FA pitcher besides McCarthy especially with Tanaka's elbow a concern going forward. A guy like Liriano if they don't go all in for Scherzer or Lester.
RE: He was throwing in September  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:40 am : link
In comment 11948043 BeerFridge said:
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He should be available pretty early.


Takes at least a year, no? maybe mid-season?
RE: He was throwing in September  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 10:42 am : link
In comment 11948043 BeerFridge said:
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He should be available pretty early.

I hadn't heard that. Good to know. I was really optimistic for him last year. I really thought he was going to be very good. Dang injuries.
last I read about Nova....  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 10:46 am : link
He had started some light throwing. Rothschild has said that they are going to tread very carefully with him and let him rehab at his own pace. Maybe he'll be back around the All-Star break.

Rooting like hell for him, because in many ways he's one of us. When he was a kid in the Domincan, the first team to scout him and offer him a contract was Boston. He refused, because he and his father were Yankees fans and that's who he wanted to play for. Gotta love it.
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RE: RE: He was throwing in September  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 10:48 am : link
In comment 11948047 section125 said:
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In comment 11948043 BeerFridge said:


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He should be available pretty early.



Takes at least a year, no? maybe mid-season?


Yeah, it's still 12-18 months. Opening day is prob not possible but I would have to think June is a reasonable guess without setbacks.
Now what about Tanaka?  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:48 am : link
He made a couple starts in September. Is he considered "healthy"?
Tanaka has me nervous  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 10:55 am : link
Yeah, he made it through the season without having to have the TJ surgery. But, will rest be enough for the long haul? I'm worried that his best pitch, the sinker, is going to be the end of him.
Tanaka's just going to be a wait and see thing, unfortunately  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 10:57 am : link
He's healthy until he isn't.
Yeah, a partially torn tendon.  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:00 am : link
I'll presume Dr. Andrews has a workout regimen for strengthening that tendon.
Yanks are going to have to address their catching situation...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:08 am : link
Lohud Yankees Blog þ@LoHudYankees · 24m24 minutes ago
Was also told it "does not appear" that Austin Romine will get a fourth option, so he will be out of options next season. #yankees

One or two of Murphy, Romine and Cervelli will need to be moved, and Sanchez could go too with Luis Torrens set to hit full-season ball next year.
Romine is not a MLB catcher  
mac attack : 10/30/2014 11:10 am : link
Just keep Cervelli as the backup and wait until Sanchez is ready. I wouldnt mind signing Russell Martin either.
Romine is a serviceable backup...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:12 am : link
nothing more, probably not less.
I'm hoping they pass on any big FAs  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/30/2014 11:12 am : link
I could understand Asdrubal, a middle of the rotation SP, and some infield depth but this team needs to realize that it is essentially in purgatory and will need to be smart and patient about it or else they'll be stuck in there for a lot longer.
I really want Lester  
CruzShip52 : 10/30/2014 11:14 am : link
Ive always liked him, he was one of my fav players in the league on a non yankees team

Tanaka
Lester
Pineda
CC
Greene/Phelps/Nova (when he comes back)

I would enjoy watching every single game with that rotation
They really need an outfielder with pop  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 11:14 am : link
But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous.

That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.
RE: They really need an outfielder with pop  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:15 am : link
In comment 11948103 Greg from LI said:
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But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous.

That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.


Nelson Cruz looks likely to resign with the O's and Markakis is nothing special. So yeah, not likely.
RE: They really need an outfielder with pop  
Zebra3 : 10/30/2014 11:22 am : link
In comment 11948103 Greg from LI said:
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But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous.

That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.

Melky has pop,don't know if it's legal,but he will want to play full time.
Sign Hanley Ramirez for right handed pop.
If Hanley was a shortstop...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:30 am : link
it might make sense. If he hadn't missed significant time in 3/4 years he would be in line for a massive payday. But his 50 SB speed is all but gone and you have no idea if he's a 30+ HR guy at this point, so you're paying for uncertain offensive production, uncertain position/defensive play and a bad injury history.

If he gets a 5-6 year deal, he'll win one MVP, have two seasons where he plays less than 80 games and on the balance he'll hover around an .800 OPS and get paid a ton to do so.
RE: They really need an outfielder with pop  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:31 am : link
In comment 11948103 Greg from LI said:
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But there's no one particualrly appealing on the market, and prices are ludicrous.

That Ellsbury deal was such a damned mistake.


I'll give Ellsbury credit for playing up to expectations. Nobody really expected 25 hrs from him. Maybe with a better lineup behind him he hits .300/.310. Only he and Gardner seemed consistant - until Gardner got hurt at the end of the year.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 11:32 am : link
only is Melky going to play full-time, he will be one of the biggest FA contracts this off-season.
They should re-sign McCarthy  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 11:32 am : link
and hang onto their picks.
RE: They should re-sign McCarthy  
MadPlaid : 10/30/2014 11:42 am : link
In comment 11948144 Phil in LA said:
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and hang onto their picks.

I agree so long it is at the right price. I hope they don't over spend on McCarthy. I would prefer they keep their picks. The Yankees were at their best when they had more home grown talent than free agents.
I  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 11:44 am : link
see McCarthy getting 3 for 30-36. Same as Jason Hammel.
That's probably  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 11:48 am : link
fine.
They should keep  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 11:48 am : link
Robertson, too.
They  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 11:55 am : link
absolutely should keep Robertson. QO keeps his price down. 15.3 if he accepts. Why not toss him out a "fair" 2 year extension to that 15.3? Something like 3 for 36 with incentives for games finished and see if he bites? He's an elite reliever.
Yeah, next year with Lindgren, Betances and Robertson  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 11:57 am : link
it's game over after 6 innings.
look at how far the mediocre Royals got....  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 12:04 pm : link
...with a weak lineup, average rotation but incredible bullpen. The Yankees are unlikely to significantly improve the lineup, so they might as well try to maximize the pitching staff.
RE: Big stein yankees  
BlueHurricane : 10/30/2014 12:04 pm : link
In comment 11947947 Zebra3 said:
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Sign
SS Hanley
3B Panda
P Lester Mcarthy,
OF Melky


Sign me up!!!!! Return of the Big Stein!!!
Rumbelow  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 12:06 pm : link
and Webb will also be in the mix for BP, Ramirez, too.
lengthy piece on the system  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 12:18 pm : link
Worth a browse
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RE: I'm not too optimistic, so here's mine.  
superspynyg : 10/30/2014 12:45 pm : link
In comment 11947924 BeerFridge said:
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Our rotation next year will be Tanaka, Pineda, Greene, CC and Shields (sob).


You don't like Shields??? He is a low era, high strikeout pitcher who eats innings. Ok so he had a bad World Series. I would love to have Shields on this team.
Shields is not likely to be a good value for the money  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 1:07 pm : link
In a vacuum, sure, I'd take him, but he's going to get massively overpaid. Let someone else do that.
Plus, Shields is 33. He'll get a 4 year deal at least.  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 1:46 pm : link
Whoever signs him will be buying high and riding his career trajectory down.

He's a good player of course. It's the value.
King makes a mistake  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 2:12 pm : link
in that article and one that has led to a shitload of unmerited rage. Newman's was not the development job. It was the ops job. His old job years ago was the development job. Roessler was the development guy and his job is still open.

Yankees need to keep the picks.  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 2:31 pm : link
sign below the radar free agents, lester or mccarthy is fine. i can go either way on robertson, but losing him will probably hurt the pen pretty bad.

i would have to think the yankees will find a power bat via trade. i just don't see how they can go in to next season and say they want to win a world series without adding power to this lineup.
Yanks 40 man in brief  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 2:57 pm : link
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The Nats declined their option on Adam LaRoche...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 4:02 pm : link
He has been pretty good of late and has played 140+ games in 4/5 years (150+ in 3 of those years). If we do opt for a dedicated DH he wouldn't be the worst pick in the world. Said to be linked to the Brewers though.
they could definitely do worse than Laroche for a power bat  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 4:03 pm : link
DH and can step in at first when Teixeira inevitably hits the DL.
Laroche is old, so he fits the profile.  
BeerFridge : 10/30/2014 4:20 pm : link
Not sure how you can have a dedicated DH with A-Rod, Tex and Beltran
Well.....  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 4:24 pm : link
You're not likely to get more than 100 games out of any of them, plus the fact that there's no reason to believe any of them will hit at all next season.
RE: Yankees need to keep the picks.  
DanMetroMan : 10/30/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11948502 sinctybldh said:
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sign below the radar free agents, lester or mccarthy is fine. i can go either way on robertson, but losing him will probably hurt the pen pretty bad.

i would have to think the yankees will find a power bat via trade. i just don't see how they can go in to next season and say they want to win a world series without adding power to this lineup.


Below the radar FA is someone who is going to get 140-160 million? lol
RE: Laroche is old, so he fits the profile.  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 4:28 pm : link
In comment 11948657 BeerFridge said:
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Not sure how you can have a dedicated DH with A-Rod, Tex and Beltran


I would be pleasantly surprised (I guess) if at some point during the season all three aren't simultaneously on the 15 or 60-day DLs. And I will be pleasantly surprised if there is a time during the season where none of them is on a disabled list.
Judge hit his 3rd HR in the AFL today...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 4:35 pm : link
he has done very well thus far.
i meant below the radar  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 4:38 pm : link
hitters. there is no hitter worth giving up a draft choice or spending an inordinate amount of money on this off season.
which of these players should the yankees dump  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 4:47 pm : link
to make room? We need room for free agent signings and minor league players who need to be added to the 40 man roster like tyler austin, pinder, montgomery, and mason williams.

Manny Banuelos
Jose Campos
Shane Greene
Bryan Mitchell
Ivan Nova
David Phelps
Michael Pineda
CC Sabathia
Masahiro Tanaka

Dellin Betances
Preston Claiborne
David Huff
Shawn Kelley
Jose Ramirez
Esmil Rogers
Adam Warren
Chase Whitley

Francisco Cervelli
Brian McCann
John Ryan Murphy
Austin Romine
Gary Sanchez

Jose Pirela
Martin Prado
Alex Rodriguez
Brendan Ryan
Mark Teixeira
Zelous Wheeler
Carlos Beltran
Jacoby Ellsbury
Ramon Flores
Brett Gardner
Slade Heathcott
Eury Perez
Antoan Richardson
I wonder if they will keep Campos.  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 4:49 pm : link
he is so far away from the majors and keeps getting injured.
Richardson and Wheeler are probably gone...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 4:52 pm : link
Esmil Rogers and Huff may go, they may not. One of the catchers, maybe more, will be traded (Romine could be DFA'ed if there is no movement on that front). Remember though, the Yanks will add 3-4 prospects, probably Austin, Williams and one or two of the pitchers like Pinder or Burawa, but they will also keep a couple spots open for fodder because that's what they like to do.
man i really dont want them to lose  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 4:57 pm : link
montgomery. i hope they can find a spot for him.
I think there may be a high probability  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 5:00 pm : link
they could lose Roller too. I wish they had used him to see what they had in him. If he goes to another team and rakes I am going to be upset.
Judge has 2 hrs today  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 5:00 pm : link
Also the yanks will talk to Ibanez about a coaching role within the organization.
I wouldn't worry too much about that  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 5:03 pm : link
Roller's K% in Scranton was 28.6% I think it's fair to suspect that there are a few holes in his swing that would be easy for MLB pitchers to exploit.
Not sure how  
sinctybldh : 10/30/2014 5:06 pm : link
I feel about having someone with no experience becoming our hitting coach.
I wonder how many of his K's were swinging  
Phil in LA : 10/30/2014 5:23 pm : link
or the umps maybe calling balls strikes. He's got very good plate disc.
RE: I think there may be a high probability  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 6:18 pm : link
In comment 11948705 sinctybldh said:
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they could lose Roller too. I wish they had used him to see what they had in him. If he goes to another team and rakes I am going to be upset.


AAAA corner IF rarely get nabbed in the Rule V. He is older and not especially projectable. Could he have a Shelley Duncan-like late blossoming? Sure. But it wasn't like Duncan blossomed into a perennial .900 OPS player, he blossomed into a fringey big-leaguer, which is probably Roller's upside.
at this point  
RasputinPrime : 10/31/2014 4:00 am : link
Cabrera at SS
Prado at 3B
ARod for 250

Tanaka, CC, Pineda, Scherzer and Greene
I would really like to see...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 9:14 am : link
Pirela and Refsnyder given the opportunity to compete for the Opening Day 2B job. Prado will likely be a super-sub and with huge question marks in RF and at 3B he can probably get 500 ABs without playing more than 40 or 50 games at 2B. Give youth a chance.
Definitely want to see Refsnyder get the 2B job  
Greg from LI : 10/31/2014 9:19 am : link
Give him a chance to sink or swim. What do they have to lose, honestly? It's not as if the team is a major title contender other than the question mark at second.
Put the "savings" into SS or getting a legit DH option...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 9:22 am : link
I mentioned Adam LaRoche, either way getting a guy who can play a solid 1B during Teix's inevitable trips to the DL or maybe a solid RF and kick Beltran over to DH more or less full time.
RE: Definitely want to see Refsnyder get the 2B job  
BeerFridge : 10/31/2014 9:34 am : link
In comment 11949399 Greg from LI said:
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Give him a chance to sink or swim. What do they have to lose, honestly? It's not as if the team is a major title contender other than the question mark at second.


The Yankees have shown times when they are cost conscious and having a cheap player at 2nd would be very attractive to them. I expect them to give him and Pirela a shot and then Prado is the fall back if they both fail to grab the job.
I agree with the flex ideas  
rich in DC : 10/31/2014 9:56 am : link
I would still make Prado the "regular" 3B, but have Pirela be the "supersub" all over (he can play regularly at 2B, 3B, RF, LF- and for a game or two, play SS and CF).

I would like to see them at least have Refsynder fight to earn the 2B job in ST.

I agree that the smartest move would be to bring in a prototypical RF and force Beltran to DH. I simply do not see any way that ARod will even be a replacement level player in 2015.

ARod has played in a single season's worth of games in the last 3 years, had surgery on BOTH hips, is 40, and it is unclear how much of his production over the past several years was not PED enhanced. He really can't chance another PED hit, as that would ban him from the game, and make him an even bigger pariah than Pete Rose.

back to topic- Refsynder at 2B, Prado at 3B, Pirela at supersub, new RF (trade), Beltran to DH, new SS (trade) and bring in a vet SP with upside- but ignore the big three (Lester, Shields and Scherzer)- they have too many long contracts at SP for already- don't make the problem worse.

Besides, the Yanks should view 2015 and maybe 2016 as stop-gap year(s)- there is some serious talent coming in 2016 and 2017- Judge in OF, Severino at SP, Bird at 1B and Sanchez at C. There are also good secondary prospects would MIGHT be starters eventually- Jagielo (is he a 3B or OF defensively- power bat plays), Mitchell might be a SP or a power long man, and a boatload of power-armed relievers.
The problem is that outside of Nelson Cruz...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 10:12 am : link
who may not hit the open market and has his own problems, there isn't an obvious big-ticket RF to sign or even acquire.
A 2B option, hopefully they'll pass...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 10:31 am : link
Robert Murray þ@RobertMurrayMLB · 2m2 minutes ago
#Brewers decline $14.5 million option on Rickie Weeks, team announces. He will be a free agent.

Yankees hired Eric Chavez  
sinctybldh : 10/31/2014 1:34 pm : link
as a special assignment scout.
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Hoch on the hot stove season  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 1:34 pm : link
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The special assignment scout job  
Phil in LA : 10/31/2014 3:19 pm : link
has been a good starting point, or restarting point for people.
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