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MookGiants : 10/30/2014 7:36 pm
Huge 1st play for Louisville, now 3rd and goal from half yard line.

now 4th and goal  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 7:36 pm : link
I would kick the field goal
No points after goalline stand.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 10/30/2014 7:37 pm : link
...
brutal  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 7:37 pm : link
take the points.

Stupid move by Petrino. Kick the FG  
Anakim : 10/30/2014 7:38 pm : link
Nice catch by Devante Parker though


Watch Louisville S Gerod Holliman. Absolutely sick S
Louisville ' s defense is pretty damn good  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 7:45 pm : link
.
disagree on kicking the FG  
TexasGmenFan : 10/30/2014 7:45 pm : link
you're at home and playing the # 1 team. the strength of your team is the D.

you go for the points there. didn't work out, but no problem with the decision.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/30/2014 7:58 pm : link
How did ND lose again to FSU? Oh yeah, officials blew that call.
RE: ...  
knicks3031 : 10/30/2014 8:03 pm : link
In comment 11948850 SanFranGiantsFan said:
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How did ND lose again to FSU? Oh yeah, officials blew that call.


lol
Still whining, huh?  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 8:09 pm : link
The tears of Domers are sweet indeed.
No question they blew that call  
Bake54 : 10/30/2014 8:17 pm : link
once that FSU player ripped off his helmet, it was offsetting penalties. The officials even admitted they missed that.
lousiville's line is  
section125 : 10/30/2014 8:18 pm : link
kicking butt.
if FSU  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:20 pm : link
loses this game and ND runs the table I'm very interested to see if they would put an 11-1 ND over FSU. They have TCU ahead of Baylor right now and Oregon ahead of Arizona, so they can't just blindly put them ahead because of head to head. ND would likely finish with more quality wins if that were to happen
So if Louisville beats FSU at home  
Bake54 : 10/30/2014 8:21 pm : link
and then ND beats Louisville at home. How do you rank the 3 teams?
RE: if FSU  
section125 : 10/30/2014 8:22 pm : link
In comment 11948875 MookGiants said:
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loses this game and ND runs the table I'm very interested to see if they would put an 11-1 ND over FSU. They have TCU ahead of Baylor right now and Oregon ahead of Arizona, so they can't just blindly put them ahead because of head to head. ND would likely finish with more quality wins if that were to happen


I think they would like to drop FSU because of the Winston issues.
sorry Mook  
Bake54 : 10/30/2014 8:22 pm : link
you asked a similar question
Louisville's NT is  
section125 : 10/30/2014 8:31 pm : link
just manhandling FSUs center every play.
This will burn you up Mook....  
Bake54 : 10/30/2014 8:31 pm : link
and Greg will be dancing

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Arkansas athletic director Jeff Long is also the chairman of the playoff committee and he was a guest on "The Dan Patrick Show" when he was asked about Notre Dame's ranking. Long explained that the loss was impressive but it was still a loss. But more importantly, Long noted that Notre Dame doesn't have any impressive wins.

"I think if you look at Notre Dame's resume at this point, they have a very close loss against Florida State on the road and it is a loss," Long told Dan Patrick. "But the rest of the body of their work against the teams they have played has not impressed the committee as much as the teams that are ahead of Notre Dame."

In fact, the committee was so unimpressed with Notre Dame's six wins, all at home and none against teams currently in the top-25, Long suggested that the Irish would have been much lower in the rankings if not for their "good loss" to Florida State.

"Then you look at the rest of the body of [Notre Dame's] work, I would tell you [the loss to Florida State] did help them."


from yahoo sports
the big issue  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:36 pm : link
I have with that is Michigan State's resume is no better. Nebraska sucks. Look no further than being tied 24-24 late in the 4th quarter against an FCS team at home. Nebraska is only ranked because of their pathetic schedule, they don't pass the eye test, they don't pass any test. If you are tied late in the 4th against an FCS team you're garbage
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/30/2014 8:41 pm : link
Louisville dominating.
Tears of Domers LOL  
Jints in Carolina : 10/30/2014 8:45 pm : link
that is funny and I like ND
Looks like FSU  
Bake54 : 10/30/2014 8:48 pm : link
underestimated Louisville...21-0
#25 Louisville is blowing out the team that beat ND  
Peter in Atlanta : 10/30/2014 8:50 pm : link
I guess that ends the ND discussion.
Louisville  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:50 pm : link
is a good football team, and the Thursday night games have always been tricky spots for the road team. DeVante Parker finally playing is huge for them, they may be undefeated if he played all year, 1 loss at worst.

I think this helps ND. Gives them another chance at a quality win.
Jeez..... Enough with the Notre Dame bullshit.  
Stu : 10/30/2014 8:51 pm : link
The only teams they've beaten with winning records are Rice and Stanford. Let it go.
See this is why if I am a ND  
dep026 : 10/30/2014 8:52 pm : link
fan, I dont get caught up in the rankings. Its all point of view. People will boost ND's schedule because Louisville is good. Others will point NDs schedule isnt as good because FSU is getting whalloped.

Every year there is a clusterfuck around this time, and usually by the end of the year, its pretty much cleared up. If ND wins out, Ill be shocked if they arent included. Yeah there are some teams who can fuck it up for them, but I dont think there are a lot of dominant teams in college this year and a lot of teams in the top 10 will have at least 2 if not 3 losses by the end of the regular season.
The transitive  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:52 pm : link
property has never really worked in football. Especially when one game was at FSU and one wasn't.

Would be like saying Oregon is out of the discussion because Arizona lost (at home) to USC.
RE: Jeez..... Enough with the Notre Dame bullshit.  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:53 pm : link
In comment 11948914 Stu said:
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The only teams they've beaten with winning records are Rice and Stanford. Let it go.


Stanford is a bad football team I guess? Their losses are to AZ State, ND, and USC.

I bet you think Nebraska is a good football team, don't you?
Louisville  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:54 pm : link
does not want to give FSU momentum going into half, especially with FSU getting back coming out of halftime
Actually, I don't think Nebraska is very good at all.  
Stu : 10/30/2014 8:54 pm : link
Next question?
I thought  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 8:57 pm : link
you were not allowed to fumble the ball forward at the end of each half and advance it
Strong  
Rflairr : 10/30/2014 8:57 pm : link
really developed some 2 and 3 star talent into strong NFL prospects. Very good job at Louisville. Petrino walked into a lucky situation
RE: I thought  
section125 : 10/30/2014 9:01 pm : link
In comment 11948926 MookGiants said:
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you were not allowed to fumble the ball forward at the end of each half and advance it


Me too or is that NFL only?
RE: RE: I thought  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 9:02 pm : link
In comment 11948929 section125 said:
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In comment 11948926 MookGiants said:


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you were not allowed to fumble the ball forward at the end of each half and advance it



Me too or is that NFL only?


maybe it's NFL only. Either that or rules like that don't apply to FSU
If that fumble happened on 4th down with the resulting play, the ball  
Stu : 10/30/2014 9:08 pm : link
would have been spotted on the 1 yard line. On any other down it's a touchdown, like it was called there.
go down  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 9:25 pm : link
you idiot.
FSU damn lucky so far.  
yatqb : 10/30/2014 9:32 pm : link
Awful game for Winston so far. They're damn explosive, but not a #1 team imo.
why  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 9:42 pm : link
was the FSU receiver allowed to spike the ball?
Louisville  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 9:54 pm : link
now can't do anything right
his calf  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 9:58 pm : link
was on the ground, therefore he is down.
That's a fumble  
micky : 10/30/2014 9:58 pm : link
.
RE: That's a fumble  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:00 pm : link
In comment 11949019 micky said:
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I think it's pretty clear that his right calf was on the ground. They screw up replays routinely though, so nothing would be a surprise
ruled down  
micky : 10/30/2014 10:01 pm : link
too close to overturn. But, looked like ball was coming loose beforehand
No fumble, but  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:01 pm : link
Louisville is holding a lot now. Who ever had #7 on FSU had him wrapped up pretty good.
Burgess is a helluva  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:04 pm : link
player, but that is the 2nd stinger his had tonight.
missed  
micky : 10/30/2014 10:11 pm : link
.
How did that  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:23 pm : link
ball get through 3 people????
That  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:24 pm : link
was going to be picked off if the defenders didn't run into each other. Horseshoe firmly up FSU's ass.
Holy shyte,  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:28 pm : link
just shove the DB out of the way - how do you miss that?
bout time  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:33 pm : link
FSU had a call go against them
Wow  
Giants2012 : 10/30/2014 10:40 pm : link
Eanest gray
got a break there  
micky : 10/30/2014 10:40 pm : link
and lead now to a sack and out of Fg range
Jameis  
dep026 : 10/30/2014 10:41 pm : link
with two huge fucks up there. Had an easy TD then takes a sack that puts them out of FG range. Yikes.
I know they were backed up  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:46 pm : link
but you can't just sit on the ball there on 3rd down
Petrino  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:51 pm : link
deserved that. You can't sit on the ball and just punt it right back to them. Dont care that it was 3rd and long, try to get the first down.
conservative approach just about did them in  
micky : 10/30/2014 10:51 pm : link
now
That sure didn't take long  
Greg from LI : 10/30/2014 10:51 pm : link
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FSU's defense  
section125 : 10/30/2014 10:54 pm : link
is porous...
that's the ballgame  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 10:56 pm : link
worst possible outcome for ND.

FSU doesn't look great, and Louisville still loses, which eliminates Louisville as a quality win down the road.
need stop here or it's pretty much  
micky : 10/30/2014 10:59 pm : link
game
Ever get the feeling some people just stopped trying  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:00 pm : link
?
Louisville  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 11:03 pm : link
was actually better off letting him score there
not that I think they'll come back  
MookGiants : 10/30/2014 11:03 pm : link
but there only chance was to let him score after he got the first
November 8th...  
Dunedin81 : 10/30/2014 11:03 pm : link
we shall all be Wahoos...
Dalvin Cook  
giantBCP : 10/30/2014 11:04 pm : link
resembles Ladainian Tomlinson in his playing style.
RE: Ever get the feeling some people just stopped trying  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:04 pm : link
In comment 11949189 Dunedin81 said:
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Louisville played as well as they could. FSU just has better talent and they do this 1st half absence every week.
There is one on-field weakness that Jameis has  
dpinzow : 10/30/2014 11:05 pm : link
and it is those throws off the back foot. A lot of those back-foot throws which he can get there due to pure arm strength in college would be picks in the NFL.
I don't think FSU  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:07 pm : link
beats Auburn or Alabama. They are just bad against the run and their offensive line is weak up the middle.
If Auburn beats Ole Miss  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:11 pm : link
I'd bet they jump FSU to #2.

There just is not a dominant team this year. Not sure about Miss St., either.
Auburn hasn't been impressive  
giantBCP : 10/30/2014 11:20 pm : link
Neither have Miss St. or Ole miss.
RE: There is one on-field weakness that Jameis has  
section125 : 10/30/2014 11:26 pm : link
In comment 11949198 dpinzow said:
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and it is those throws off the back foot. A lot of those back-foot throws which he can get there due to pure arm strength in college would be picks in the NFL.


True, but we know an NFL QB with two rings that has the same bad habit.
All Famous Jameis does is  
Stan from LA : 10/31/2014 12:22 am : link
win.
So did Tiger Woods..  
Davisian : 10/31/2014 12:35 am : link
..
And Serena Williams.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 10/31/2014 12:36 am : link
And Manny Pacquaio.
That fumble after the interception  
montanagiant : 10/31/2014 12:43 am : link
Is what won that game for FSU..that would have been it if Louisville retained the ball
RE: That fumble after the interception  
MookGiants : 10/31/2014 12:52 am : link
In comment 11949270 montanagiant said:
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Is what won that game for FSU..that would have been it if Louisville retained the ball


Louisville actually stopped them on 4th down at midfield that next drive, so it wasn't a big deal.

Not recovering the fumble right before half is what cost Louisville. 21-0 there going into half and i doubt they blow it
Go Noles baby!  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 1:11 am : link
24 straight!
24  
BigBlueCane : 10/31/2014 4:06 am : link
straight arrests.

That's a lot of stadium stairs.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/31/2014 7:25 am : link
The turning point was FSU recovering the fumble for a TD to make it 21-7.
FSU lucky to get out of this one with a win  
Mike from Ohio : 10/31/2014 8:29 am : link
Not sure why the slow starts week after week, but this team is not what it was last year. They'll likely get in the playoff but it will be hard for them to win back to back against whatever SEC teams they will be playing.
RE: 24  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 9:20 am : link
In comment 11949289 BigBlueCane said:
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straight arrests.

That's a lot of stadium stairs.


You're a Miami fan, correct?
A Miami fan lecturing an FSU fan...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 9:25 am : link
on misbehaving players, that's rich.

At least (this year anyway) Miami kicks its alleged rapists off the team.
I honestly don't get it..  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 9:40 am : link
IMO, mostly every top team in college sports is "dirty" in some way, shape or form. Are some worse than others? I'm sure, but it's not going to stop any of us from rooting the team on.

And yes, Winston is an immature punk.
RE: I honestly don't get it..  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 9:44 am : link
In comment 11949427 Vin R said:
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IMO, mostly every top team in college sports is "dirty" in some way, shape or form. Are some worse than others? I'm sure, but it's not going to stop any of us from rooting the team on.

And yes, Winston is an immature punk.


Jimbo's defense, and that of prominent members of his fan base, went over and above. And the fact that as much of a piece of shit as Jameis has been over the last couple years he has yet to face meaningful disciplinary consequences (when Gurley sat out games because of investigation into minor misconduct - the same misconduct Winston is alleged to have done) is the reason why FSU is making a bid of that pantheon of despised programs.
Teams in the hunt for a national championship  
Mike from Ohio : 10/31/2014 9:55 am : link
will overlook a lot more for their star players then will teams that are not in the hunt. I think that is one reason you see the teams at the top of the standings always in the spotlight more than others. One is that it is a better story, but then there is also a tendency to err on the side of skipping punishment so you don't jeopardize a potential championship.

To some degree all of the programs look the other way when their star players are in trouble - they all suspend the marginal players. I think it just becomes more pronounced when you are at the top of the polls and keeping a kid playing when he shoudln't be can be all the difference in a season and a career.
If it was just the autographs or the crab legs...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 10:13 am : link
WGAF. The issue is it's that plus the pellet gun plus the rape allegations (and the appearance that much was done to prevent those allegations from ever being brought to court).
And yelling that garbage  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 10:49 am : link
in front of students & parents
RE: Go Noles baby!  
jgambrosio : 10/31/2014 10:51 am : link
In comment 11949278 Vin R said:
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24 straight!


huh? now you're an FSU fan too?
Even that...  
Dunedin81 : 10/31/2014 10:52 am : link
stupid, but a lot dumber for an alleged rapist to be yelling than for anyone else.
RE: RE: Go Noles baby!  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 11:01 am : link
In comment 11949530 jgambrosio said:
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In comment 11949278 Vin R said:


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24 straight!



huh? now you're an FSU fan too?


I've always been a Noles fan.
Vin  
BigBlueCane : 10/31/2014 11:24 am : link
at some point, CFB has become an all out race to win. No matter the cost in dollars, time or ruined human lives.

It has to be cleaned up.
RE: Vin  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 11:27 am : link
In comment 11949587 BigBlueCane said:
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at some point, CFB has become an all out race to win. No matter the cost in dollars, time or ruined human lives.

It has to be cleaned up.


Couldn't agree more
RE: I honestly don't get it..  
Patrick77 : 10/31/2014 11:31 am : link
In comment 11949427 Vin R said:
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IMO, mostly every top team in college sports is "dirty" in some way, shape or form. Are some worse than others? I'm sure, but it's not going to stop any of us from rooting the team on.

And yes, Winston is an immature punk.


I agree to an extent. I'm a Miami fan. They have a history of outright criminals playing on the team, paying players, etc... and it being alright to fans, coaches, etc...

Now would I defend or cheer for a player I suspected of raping a girl or shooting people with a pellet gun? I don't think so, but who knows. I've probably cheered for players who have done much worse knowingly or ignorantly. No one is reporting the shit The U players are doing this year because they are irrelevant not because they are now a boyscout clean-cut program.

I'm sure almost every program has serious issues. I even read an article yesterday talking about a current player for Alabama beating a guy so bad he thought he had killed the guy (who now dropped out) only being "suspended" for a year. But who cares, he isn't the QB on the national champs. It's not newsworthy.
RE: Vin  
section125 : 10/31/2014 11:38 am : link
In comment 11949587 BigBlueCane said:
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at some point, CFB has become an all out race to win. No matter the cost in dollars, time or ruined human lives.

It has to be cleaned up.


It has been this way since the 70's at least. It won't get cleaned up until these players get some just compensation and I don't mean pay. They should get a weekly allowance and special all you can eat food plans at the least. It won't get cleaned up until properly qualified students fill the rosters.
I think the NCAA is a joke. Want to keep the agents out - simple. Have the convicted agent's license revoked for illegal contact with players, don't squeeze the student - squeeze the agent. They lose their license, then they lose all the players under their contract. That will end that.
Vin  
BigBlueCane : 10/31/2014 3:10 pm : link
it's not about compensation.

It's about the money the schools make not just off the players but off their alumni.

ESPN now has more control and influence then the NCAA does.
Cane.. you mean section haha  
Vin R : 10/31/2014 3:31 pm : link
:)
RE: Vin  
section125 : 10/31/2014 3:42 pm : link
In comment 11950013 BigBlueCane said:
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it's not about compensation.

It's about the money the schools make not just off the players but off their alumni.

ESPN now has more control and influence then the NCAA does.


Come on Vin, take the heat.

Well ESPN would do a better job than the NCAA, but the NCAA still rules the roost.

All schools make money off alumni, and not just sports. My problem with the NCAA is the inconsistent enforcement of any and all rules; plus the chickens$#t rules.
sorry  
BigBlueCane : 10/31/2014 4:10 pm : link
was in a hurry when I posted.
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