There are three ways this ends....
Colts win....
Giants win.....
Colts decimate the Giants....
With the loss of our players continuing to grow, I think most Giant fans think the Giants lose this one(Perry fewell stopping a passing offense?), but are hoping for an upset....
If the Giants win, it will be their first win against a winning team with their starting qb, in three seasons....if they win, anything is possible after that....
If they lose, now they have to go to the west coast, and face a wounded Seattle team, that is fighting to right their ship.....a rather daunting task.....but after playing Oakland, they might be ripe for an upset....
But if they lose big time, after having two weeks to rest and prepare, what direction will this team be headed? If this team does not show up again for this game, it could be all over.....these next four games could start a snowball down a hill, that can't be stopped.....
I have no idea what this team will do on Monday.....we have seen this team rise up out of the ashes and play flawless football....we have seen games where they shouldn't have run out of the tunnel.....but compared to last year, this team has a shot...a slim one, but still a shot....
Stuff like the Lions coming back against the Falcons or the likely loss to the Colts is just shoveling dirt on top by any even tenuously reasonable extent.
Stuff like the Lions coming back against the Falcons or the likely loss to the Colts is just shoveling dirt on top by any even tenuously reasonable extent.
No offense dude but shit like this is so stupid.
I aint saying it's going to happen but if we rattle off 9 wins the early part of the season means nothing. The season is not over until we receive our 7th loss. Its the way I ave always looked at seasons.
Someone hasn't actually looked at how the rest of the NFC is stacking up vs where the Giants have stuck themselves, I see.
They could somehow go 7-2 (they won't) and would still likely lose the very very likely tie breaker for any WC at 10-6 they'll face thanks to the conference hole they'll be. In some weird world where 9-7 ends up enough for one (it won't), same and more certain story: they very likely won't be winning any tiebreaks. They're also not winning the division; one might, but two massive collapses aren't happening.
They needed to win in Dallas to keep any realistic shot alive. They didn't. It sucks and I won't begrudge anyone for not fully accepting it, given that it's still October, but it's reality.
I don't expect a playoff season, but it's way too early to declare anything. Last year at this time we were 1-6 and could have made noise with a home win over Dallas. Situation is much less dire this year.
Let's see how they come out of the bye.
Get the younger players some game reps.
But yes. We lose this week and the season is over.
It really is a big game. I just wish it were a conference game.
Unfortunately, I think the stars are aligning for a blow out. Night game, Jennings out, a young accurate QB who can evade the rush. It's all pointing to bad stuff.
That said, with how I predict the NFL, the Giants will put a smack down on them.
Either way, it's not the end until we're mathematically eliminated and that won't be for a number of weeks still.
If the Giants are tied or close at half, they are winning this game. Mark it down. Crowd is going to be jacked up after the halftime festivities if the game is still close.
2) Romo is poised for another very entertaining implosion
3) The Eagles can be stopped by good teams
then its over...
But yes. We lose this week and the season is over.
Hypothetically we lose Monday. Beat Seattle, San Fran and Dallas. We are 6-5. You aint watching anymore games the rest of the way?
All it will mean is a few better draft pick positions if we lose and a few lower positions if we win.
Why does this team get beaten worse than the Raiders a few times each year? Why do they lay down like dogs sometimes?
7-9, 8-8. The rest of this season just gets me ready for next year. I hope I'm wrong.
Hope our offense is up to the task because 21 points ain't getting it done.
Yeah, I'm not really sure what the criteria is or where this poster is getting that from. Wouldn't beating the Texans, who were 2-0 at the time with their starting QB qualify as one of those games?
if they lose, they are 3-5 and have to go on a run to slip into the playoffs.
injuries, chemistry, new guys stepping up....lots can happen both for us and our competitors.
Philly and Dallas, meanwhile, have tougher schedules ahead of them. I still hold that the latter will finish 8-8 and the former 9-7.
If we win two of the next four, we should be in a good position to go into our last game of the season with a shot at the playoffs.
Philadelphia (5-2): Houston, Car, GB, Ten, Dal, Hawks, Dal, Wash, NYG. Yes, they have Satan on their side, but only the Titans' game looks like a gimme. Wash played them tough and you never know about Carolina, the weirdest team in the NFL. 9-7.
By the way, we're only one game in the loss column behind the Eagles. This season is far from over. But we'll have a better handle on things by Thanksgiving. If the standings look like this by then, then we're good: we'll roll at the end of the season.
Phil 7-4
Dal 7-4
NYG 5-6
Philadelphia (5-2): Houston, Car, GB, Ten, Dal, Hawks, Dal, Wash, NYG. Yes, they have Satan on their side, but only the Titans' game looks like a gimme. Wash played them tough and you never know about Carolina, the weirdest team in the NFL. 9-7.
By the way, we're only one game in the loss column behind the Eagles. This season is far from over. But we'll have a better handle on things by Thanksgiving. If the standings look like this by then, then we're good: we'll roll at the end of the season.
Phil 7-4
Dal 7-4
NYG 5-6
We are 2 games behind the Eagles in the loss column. They're 5-2 and we are 3-4.
@Seahawks
Niners
Cowboys
We need to go 2-1 in that stretch. We can afford to lose this game if we win against Seattle and SanFran. We need to be atleast 5-5 heading into that Dallas rematch.
Problem is @Seattle is as tough as it gets, even with them struggling a bit. And if we lose this week the would make @Seattle a true "season on the line" game, not good. So this game isn't quite the season but it's insanely important.
However, a win would be big in that it gives the team some much needed confidence and momentum.
Math is overrated.
Even if they did by some miracle squeeze in, I see any quality opponent playing up to their game in a meaningful game…beating the g's. Off game not consequential they could beat a lot of teams. Sort of like with INdy they could beat Indy midseason and all.
Jenkins is likely out and that hurts cause he is our best interior pass rusher and our pass rush wasn't all that to begin with! Home, 2 weeks to prepare, but not enough players to keep pace with a team that can really move the ball.
Our offense will need to put up 35+ to win this game and while it may be possible on the Colts defense I'm not sure we can. Losing Cruz really hurt this offense now that Beckham is healthy. Cruz would be getting 7 to 10 catches a game underneath if healthy. Oh well, maybe next year!
I see us falling to Monday night in a close game and also losing on the road in Seattle in another close game. We'll fight but we just don't have the talent to compete for four quarters right now. Major retooling yet again this off-season.
I would love for us to be vying for a playoff spot the final game of the season vs the Eagles at home. Injuries happen. Bad snaps happen. The Eagles OL is hurting. The Cowboys lost Durant on defense and have no one to really replace his tackling speed. Anything can happen. Our schedule has been brutal.
If we somehow stay / get healthy by the Seattle game (Jennings, DRC, Jenkins) who is to say good things couldn't happen? 5-4...moving forward...healthy...Dallas hurting (Romo, Durant) and the Eagles too (OL). Oh my, that would be great!
Just a shame we lost to AZ. Of the games we lost this is the one we should have won.
They simply don't have the horses to compete now. The fallout from that realization will be interesting. Aside from that... not much to see.
I would say the Seahawks and 49ers games are more important because of the WC implications. We can't afford to lose another game right now but if we do, losing to an AFC team hurts us less. We need those head-to-head conference wins.
We already lost to the Cardinals and Lions, currently division leaders but no guarantees. If they get bumped those losses will come to bite us in the ass. We need Detroit and Arizona to continue winning, it looks like Arizona is the real deal this year but the Packers are always dangerous and not bar behind Detroit.
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Someone hasn't actually looked at how the rest of the NFC is stacking up vs where the Giants have stuck themselves, I see.
They could somehow go 7-2 (they won't) and would still likely lose the very very likely tie breaker for any WC at 10-6 they'll face thanks to the conference hole they'll be. In some weird world where 9-7 ends up enough for one (it won't), same and more certain story: they very likely won't be winning any tiebreaks. They're also not winning the division; one might, but two massive collapses aren't happening.
They needed to win in Dallas to keep any realistic shot alive. They didn't. It sucks and I won't begrudge anyone for not fully accepting it, given that it's still October, but it's reality.
Indy
@Sea
SF
@Stl
That will get them to 10, and that still may not be enough, but it's a 10-6 year.
They have to catch the Eagles/Packers, Niners, Seahawks to have a shot at postseason
What disturbs me the most is my own reaction ... I am 62 years old ... I have not missed a single snap of a single game since at least 1970 ... and yet this year I feel very disconnected from football ... I watch more because I feel I am supposed to but this team does not excite me in the slightest ... it is the single most boring Giants squad of my lifetime, and that is saying something (after all, that includes the 2013 team and the teams of the 70s) ... the only player I have any interest in watching is Beckham ... and I have zero interest in any other team in the NLF, including the NFC East (because it doesn't matter) ... I'm like a fish out of water ... my life is upside down ... I wish I didn't feel this way ... I WANT to be interested ... but it's the Giants fault - the absence of exciting young talent makes them FUCKING BORING
Yep, and they might lose again this week against the Texans and Cardinals.
What disturbs me the most is my own reaction ... I am 62 years old ... I have not missed a single snap of a single game since at least 1970 ... and yet this year I feel very disconnected from football ... I watch more because I feel I am supposed to but this team does not excite me in the slightest ... it is the single most boring Giants squad of my lifetime, and that is saying something (after all, that includes the 2013 team and the teams of the 70s) ... the only player I have any interest in watching is Beckham ... and I have zero interest in any other team in the NLF, including the NFC East (because it doesn't matter) ... I'm like a fish out of water ... my life is upside down ... I wish I didn't feel this way ... I WANT to be interested ... but it's the Giants fault - the absence of exciting young talent makes them FUCKING BORING
I agree. It starts with the lifeless defense. It has little young talent, except Prince. It is time for Fewell to go and Reese needs to focus on drafting more defensive playmakers.
But just like last year, resources are going to have to be spread around all over the team including more O-lineman, a new Tight End, probably another WR, another Safety, etc...