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NFT: Teacher Wants to 'Kill All Black People,' Keeps Job

DanMetroMan : 10/31/2014 7:44 pm
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Apparently, the public school system in America thinks blatant racism is A-OK.

Cynthia Ramsey, a math teacher at Camden County High School, in North Carolina, reportedly told her students a few weeks ago that one item on her bucket list is "to kill all black people."

Yep, you read that right.

And, the kicker: She got to keep her job.

Local TV station WAVY spoke to Kimberley Ashcraft, the mother of one of Ramsey's students, who recited the teacher's shocking comments: "She conveyed to me that Mrs. Ramsey had indicated that if she only had 10 days to live that she would kill all black people."

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And before anyone screams about teacher tenure and unions  
Hammer : 10/31/2014 8:00 pm : link
Teachers are prohibited by law from collective bargaining in the great state of North Carolina.

Just sayin...
disgusting and repulsive  
capone : 10/31/2014 8:03 pm : link
and not surprising either.. these teachers can pretty do anything they want
capone  
Headhunter : 10/31/2014 8:06 pm : link
You got it ass backwards. She is a bigot who happens to be a teacher
Sooooo  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 8:06 pm : link
All we have right know is a few students accusing a teacher.

An investigation being done. And an assumption that the investigation will be dropped after the media attention is gone?

Could it be that the media attention will be gone after investigation finds something other than what is accused?

Not much to go on one way or the other with the link supplied.

I'll wait for the sequel till I form an opinion.
Hmmmm...  
BamaBlue : 10/31/2014 8:07 pm : link
an important mid-term election is only 4 days away. Is there a chance... a remote possibility that this is about politics?
Disturbing of course  
freddie wilson : 10/31/2014 8:07 pm : link
but the linked article is written in a very odd style. It just assumes nothing will happen to the teacher. I find that unlikely. Why is the investigation being conducted by a DA and not by school officials?
If they can find proof  
natefit : 10/31/2014 8:11 pm : link
the teacher said this shes out. Period. Politics have nothing to do with it
RE: And before anyone screams about teacher tenure and unions  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 8:13 pm : link
In comment 11950250 Hammer said:
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Teachers are prohibited by law from collective bargaining in the great state of North Carolina.

Just sayin...


You never met a bigoted union member?

You haven't been in the union business long, have you?
RE: If they can find proof  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 8:15 pm : link
In comment 11950262 natefit said:
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the teacher said this shes out. Period. Politics have nothing to do with it


this

If she isn't, it's pure politics.

Both sides of the coin.
There also may very well be  
natefit : 10/31/2014 8:18 pm : link
more to this story on a personal level. HS kids could def make stuff up about a teacher they had it out for too. I doubt howvever they did it to get the Dem vote out.
This mid-term election...  
BamaBlue : 10/31/2014 8:19 pm : link
has been all about race baiting. If this turns out to be another dirty political trick, I hope that people are as indignant. Using race as a political trick is worse that the act of racism. A racist is an ignorant fool who doesn't know any better... a political operative is willfully treating others as ignorant fools for their own gain.
Its Halloween  
natefit : 10/31/2014 8:21 pm : link
i think i see a bogey man!
Good call  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 8:26 pm : link
nate.
RE: RE: And before anyone screams about teacher tenure and unions  
Hammer : 10/31/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 11950265 ctc in ftmyers said:
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In comment 11950250 Hammer said:


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Teachers are prohibited by law from collective bargaining in the great state of North Carolina.

Just sayin...



You never met a bigoted union member?

You haven't been in the union business long, have you?


That wasn't my point and you know it.
What was your  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 8:45 pm : link
point then?

ie: If teachers were unionized this wouldn't happen?

What else could one surmise from your statement?

Union representation would have squashed the accusations?

The union would indict the kids instead?

What was your point?

RE: What was your  
Hammer : 10/31/2014 9:09 pm : link
In comment 11950301 ctc in ftmyers said:
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point then?

ie: If teachers were unionized this wouldn't happen?

What else could one surmise from your statement?

Union representation would have squashed the accusations?

The union would indict the kids instead?

What was your point?


You know what my point was, but to clarify, just in case your being anything less than obtuse, is that no one can blame any collective bargaining agreement, or union, or teacher tenure law for the fact that this teacher has not be terminated for what she said, assuming she actually said it.

Unless your a complete idiot you know that this is what I was alluding to.
Of course  
pinyin : 10/31/2014 10:05 pm : link
if it were a black teacher who stated she that "she wants to kill all white people", then it would be acceptable, in this backwards bleeding heart liberal landscape that we now call America..

Not that I'm condoning this teachers actions in the slightest. She's an imbecile and a racist, but if the shoe was on the other foot...
Who the  
ctc in ftmyers : 10/31/2014 10:08 pm : link
heck but you brought the union subject up? Especially with just saying.

Nobody but you, the first response on the discussion, threw the union, non union question into the mix. I highly doubt that thought crossed anybody elses mind on this board.

Most think it's a shame if true. Shame if false. More than likely, it's Halloween trick from the way the article is written.

Come on, CTC  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 11/1/2014 1:54 am : link
That's the standard response to these incidents and educators like me are tired of hearing teachers and teachers unions disparaged unfairly. That's why he was bringing up the union aspect (or non-union, as it were). It would inevitably lead to anti-teacher's union, anti-educator soapbox talking point rhetoric if not headed off initially.
Is this a legit piece of news?  
Knineteen : 11/1/2014 2:04 am : link
That webpage looks like something from a high school project.
yeah  
santacruzom : 11/1/2014 2:07 am : link
I think it was pretty obvious what kind of assertion Hammer's union post was trying to preempt.
Bring multiracial  
Vin R : 11/1/2014 3:27 am : link
I hate reading this shit
C'mon ctc, you are way off base.  
manh george : 11/1/2014 3:41 am : link
No one is thinking about it in these terms, huh? This week's Time Magazine cover story:



The text on the cover is:
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"Rotten Apples: It's nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher. Some tech millionaires may have found a way to change that.


Sorry for the bad picture. The only other one I found was about 40x as big.

And an article about the controversy, linked. Also this week. And the Weekly Standard, hard right, has an article entitled:
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Time Magazine is Attacked for Telling the Truth About Teachers Unions


Other than that, practically no one, I guess.
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Those who believe  
JoefromPa : 11/1/2014 6:47 am : link
This woman keeps her job if indeed she uttered these words, probably have their own bias against teachers.

If there is strong evidence that she uttered that slur, she will be suspended without pay, until a thorough investigation shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the accusation is true. At that time she will let go

You can t shoot from the hip in these situations, like so many, especially the media are inclined to do.
RE: Those who believe  
Hammer : 11/1/2014 6:59 am : link
In comment 11950483 JoefromPa said:
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until a thorough investigation shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the accusation is true. At that time she will let go


I doubt very highly if "beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard of proof that is applied in this investigation.

That being said, I agree with the rest of your statement
RE: Of course  
dcgiantsfan : 11/1/2014 8:56 am : link
In comment 11950356 pinyin said:
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if it were a black teacher who stated she that "she wants to kill all white people", then it would be acceptable, in this backwards bleeding heart liberal landscape that we now call America..

Not that I'm condoning this teachers actions in the slightest. She's an imbecile and a racist, but if the shoe was on the other foot...


Whether it was a white or black teacher making this comment, it is still wrong! For me anyone making this comment must be held accountable especially as crazy as folks are today. These situations can no longer be taken lightly. Too many lives have been cut short because some nut job feels a certain way and decides to take lives.

What I find interesting though is the fact that when ever race makes the headlines people get all up in arms about it as if race doesnt matter anymore.
There are some stupid people, here...  
Britt in VA : 11/1/2014 9:09 am : link
.
Like...  
Britt in VA : 11/1/2014 9:09 am : link
really, REALLY stupid.
This ^^^  
natefit : 11/1/2014 9:10 am : link
Its f----g painful to read some of the comments on here lately
Yeah, I know what you mean  
Bill L : 11/1/2014 9:13 am : link
I think bucket lists are dumb too. Just do stuff and stop focusing on what you haven't done and you'll die happie, IMO.
RE: Of course  
Exit 172 : 11/1/2014 9:42 am : link
In comment 11950356 pinyin said:
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if it were a black teacher who stated she that "she wants to kill all white people", then it would be acceptable, in this backwards bleeding heart liberal landscape that we now call America..

Not that I'm condoning this teachers actions in the slightest. She's an imbecile and a racist, but if the shoe was on the other foot...


Delete yourself, idiot.
horeshit  
blapre74 : 11/1/2014 10:37 am : link
if a bad teacher gets written up with a 51A it's inevitable that he or she gets fired. It really depends upon which state. After all, we are not communists.
RE: horeshit  
Big Al : 11/1/2014 11:30 am : link
In comment 11950631 blapre74 said:
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if a bad teacher gets written up with a 51A it's inevitable that he or she gets fired. It really depends upon which state. After all, we are not communists.
Well not all of you.
From reading some other reports  
sphinx : 11/1/2014 11:52 am : link
other than the linked story, it seems that the bucket list comment, if made, was part of a private conversation and not something the teacher said (or didn't say) to a class ...

“She conveyed to me that Mrs. Ramsey had indicated that if she only had 10 days to live that she would kill all black people,” mother Kimberly Ashcraft told WAVY-TV. Ashcraft said other students were nearby when Ramsey made the comment.

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