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Missing the playoffs the last 5 out of 6 seasons

spike : 11/6/2014 7:54 am
Coughlin became our head coach in 2004 and promptly turned the team around to having 4 straight playoff appearances from 2005-2008.

However, the last 6 seasons had been rather unimpressive, 46-42, and just one playoff/Super Bowl run in 2011.

So what happened? Are the players tuning him out or simply a lack of talent drafted by Reese?
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RE: I never knew  
Greg from LI : 11/6/2014 9:24 pm : link
In comment 11963151 bignygfan said:
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you got trophies for making the playoffs.

You learn something every day.


No, but you sure as hell don't get any trophies when you don't make the playoffs. See how that works?

MAKING THE PLAYOFFS: potential to win trophies
NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS: absolutely no potential to win trophies
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BrettNYG10 : 11/6/2014 10:17 pm : link
You can be grateful for the two Super Bowl wins and simultaneously be frustrated with the current state of the team and concerned for its future. There's always an implication that those pointing out the lack of playoff appearances are ungrateful (in the same manner many 'optimists' hint at the inferiority at more pessimistic fans). I'd take our last decade over any other team other than peehaps the Steelers, but that doesn't mean anything for the team going forward.

Injuries (to other teams) are probably the only reason we weren't 4-12 last year and likely won't be this year either. The Falcons were missing their entire OL and the Texans best offensive weapon was out.
perhaps.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/6/2014 10:21 pm : link
I shouldn't post from my phone..
It's looking like,  
Doomster : 11/6/2014 10:32 pm : link
under TC, we will not have won a playoff game in 9 out of the 11 seasons he's coached....
Only thing I care about is whether our arrow is pointing up or down  
BlueHurricane : 11/6/2014 10:53 pm : link
Hate to say it but for the better part of three years it has been pointing down. Something needs to be done to turn it around.
RE: FMIC makes good points about injuries plaguing  
Dylan fan : 11/6/2014 11:16 pm : link
In comment 11962186 Section331 said:
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specific units, and the lack of depth league-wide, BUT we have 4 drafts from 2009-20012 that we have very little to show for. Somebody has to be accountable for that.

Some of the reason the Giants have little to show for the last several drafts are due to injuries. Beckam missed almost half the year. Wilson & Chad Jones had career-ending injuries (Jones B4 he even played a down). JPP missed 5 games last year & played w/ a bum shoulder & back for 1.5 years. Prince missed 9 games his rookie season, 3 in 2012 & half this year. Austin, though he was extremely likely a bust anyhow, missed his entire rookie year & 8 the next. Jernigan missed all of this year. J Williams, although JAG, missed 6 games in 2012 & wasn't particularly healthy all last year. Robinson missed a year. Hosley,although also likely a bust, has missed half his career so far. Taylor is out all year.

Who has to be held accountable for injuries? If someone is hit by lightning, does someone have to be held accountable for that too? Injuries happen (it seems a lot more to the Giants than most other teams) & not all of them are created equal.

People can point out that Eli has played every game until they're blue, but he doesn't also play 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th string CB (this year & 2 years ago), or OL, or RB (last year). He also can't make Randle run the correct route or catch the ball. He can't prevent Donnell from fumbling. He can't help Fewell or the D players run a decent blitz. He doesn't play on or coach the consistently horrendous STs.

The 49ers are a fine example of how injuries can sabotage a season. Their OL has been a shambles all year & 2 of the best LBs in the NFL have missed several games. They are 4-4, which is 1 game better than the "completely talentless" Giants as numerous BBIers proclaimed before they jumped off a tall building. Did Harbaugh suddenly forget how to coach? Most of the team has tuned him out? Their ultra-talented roster just forgot how to play all of a sudden? Or maybe widespread injuries, particularly to 2 units, have a major part in it?

For a completely untalented team with a shitastic GM & D & STs coaches, the Giants have still managed to have only 1 losing season since what, 2003? BBIers act like they're the fucking Raiders or Jaguars.
RE: This 5 out of 6 years..  
Dylan fan : 11/6/2014 11:24 pm : link
In comment 11962664 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is a really convenient stopping point.

I'd say winning two titles in the last 7 years sounds as impressive as missing the playoffs 5 out of 6 times sounds depressing.

Hell, winning 1 SB in the past 45 years is something some teams can't say. And we've done it twice in the past 7. A whole lot of teams can say they've missed the playoffs 5 out of 6 years in their franchise history.

So, would you guys be happier to make the playoffs and lose? Because that sure seems like it based on these threads that either completely ignore or minimize the importance of SB wins.

Excellent point! Perspective is something that is rather severely lacking on BBI, which is why I don't even read anything posted by about 90% of it's posters. The life span of most BBIers would be about 10 games if they were Raiders fans. In a sport where teams are measured by how their records compare to OTHER teams, most BBIers choose to totally discount how the Giants COMPARE to OTHER teams. The Eagles make the playoffs virtually every year but haven't won squat in 54 years. I gather that all these fucking morons would rather be Eagles fans. They do deserve each other.
2 thoughts on the injury argument.  
BigBlueCane : 11/7/2014 5:31 am : link
One, Reese has a habit of drafting players he views as undervalued and a large portion of those are ones had major injuries or had an injury history coming out of College.

Two, I would like to think the Giants medical staff actually cares a little more about the players' health in the long term and is more reluctant to send an injured player back on the field, as compared to Dallas, Washington and Philly have done.
RE: RE: This 5 out of 6 years..  
BrettNYG10 : 11/7/2014 7:34 am : link
In comment 11963321 Dylan fan said:
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In comment 11962664 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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is a really convenient stopping point.

I'd say winning two titles in the last 7 years sounds as impressive as missing the playoffs 5 out of 6 times sounds depressing.

Hell, winning 1 SB in the past 45 years is something some teams can't say. And we've done it twice in the past 7. A whole lot of teams can say they've missed the playoffs 5 out of 6 years in their franchise history.

So, would you guys be happier to make the playoffs and lose? Because that sure seems like it based on these threads that either completely ignore or minimize the importance of SB wins.


Excellent point! Perspective is something that is rather severely lacking on BBI, which is why I don't even read anything posted by about 90% of it's posters. The life span of most BBIers would be about 10 games if they were Raiders fans. In a sport where teams are measured by how their records compare to OTHER teams, most BBIers choose to totally discount how the Giants COMPARE to OTHER teams. The Eagles make the playoffs virtually every year but haven't won squat in 54 years. I gather that all these fucking morons would rather be Eagles fans. They do deserve each other.


Terrible post.
'...if they were Raiders fans...'  
vibe4giants : 11/7/2014 10:18 am : link
But, we're not.

We're not Eagles fans.

We're not Patriots fans.

We're, get this, Giants fans.

So most of us don't sit around thinking about what other fan experiences are like. It's not relevant to our lives how other fans feel. Because their experience isn't our experience.

Most of us care about, get this, how the New York Giants do. Because that's the team with which we live and die. What's happening to the New York Giants defines our year-to-year football season experience. And every season is a new season.

So if someone sits around watching consecutive bad New York Giants seasons thinking, 'Well, I am sure am glad I'm not a fan of much worse teams or teams who have never won anything', I suppose you're doing a good job of distracting yourself from the issues of the New York Giants.

But 90% of us are here to talk about what we're seeing, feeling and thinking about as New York Giants fans. And that doesn't include a slightly curious tangent of imaging what it would be like to be a fan of the Raiders. I care what a Raiders fan thinks about as little as what a Dylan fan thinks.

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