great listen on joe and evan. talking about how some drafted players in the locker room have no fear of being cut, and have little interest in contributing. saying how it handcuffs locker room leadership.
mentions specifically - brewer, hostly, robinson
ERW - eat ride warmup is what banks calls it. he has talked about it before, but it is very interesting. saying giants don't draft terribly they just hang on to draft picks too long, etc.
it will be available as a podcast later.
banks is always a great listen
I would imagine JR and TC shape the roster together. obviously TC decides who dresses.
granted, they weren't premium picks, but we have found above average starters later in the draft and UDFA.
It does run tangent to the the thoughts i see on the boards about our talent.
brewer for instance. does anyone think he has less physical talent then dave deil, or seubert?
Take Adrien Robinson as an example...this kid did not even put up numbers at Cinci and he took a shot on him in the 4th round!!! Even if he was a "project" type pick, then how long do you give him to develop? Shit, we are going on over three years now and he was bypassed on the depth chart by a practice squad player.
implies that TC is stuck with these guys but won't use them
says ODB (i know i prefer old dirty basturd) has the mentality to be great that a lot of these guys are lacking. has the drive, and is just about passing Randle to be the #1 receiver.
Yeah it's a safe bet to say that has lareayd happened.
but think about that. it took a month in the nfl to pass randle who has been here for 3 yrs. It says a lot about ODB, but also RR. Banks loves his mental makeup.
I don't like pete caroll at all, but i know that in seattle, mental makeup is as important to player evaluation as is physical ability. Seattle is also not afraid to admit a mistake, and cut bait.
those are 2 things the giants would be well served to evaluate in house
If he's just happy to sit around and cash a check, he is really dumb - since it isn't a whole lot of cash.
Now they are struggling on O, Lynch is possibly having a character issue and they still are weak at WR.
People act as if Seattle has been a juggernaut for years simply based on last year's SB title.
They have a lot of warts and have made some questionable personnel decisions, even with the extra $$ they have from Wilson's contract.
start off life with no college debt and a million or 2 in the bank. i can think of a lot of people who would sign for that
says ODB (i know i prefer old dirty basturd) has the mentality to be great that a lot of these guys are lacking. has the drive, and is just about passing Randle to be the #1 receiver.
I think ODB passed Randle as our #1 WR the moment his hammy was healthy enough for him to practice
they gave up picks for harbin and sydney rice. They spent a top 15 pick on bruce irvin. spent a ton of money on taverns jackson and flynn. i am saying that recognize bad decisions and move on from them
Now they are struggling on O, Lynch is possibly having a character issue and they still are weak at WR.
People act as if Seattle has been a juggernaut for years simply based on last year's SB title.
They have a lot of warts and have made some questionable personnel decisions, even with the extra $$ they have from Wilson's contract.
yup and the Seahawks are dealing with locker room issues this year themselves with Harvin (who they dumped) and Marshawn Lynch
just goes to show that championship chemistry is hard to keep together
But as a radio guy, I don't like Carl at all. He talks in platitudes, never really saying too much. And he never calls out the coaches. This past week he was going on about the guys on the practice squad at the end of the Colts game. But he was really picking up on something said by Howard Cross. Cross was talking about how Chad Bratzke came up to the team from the PS and how NYG should jettison the guys they have there and bring in some new challengers.
Anyway, its pretty clear there are personnel problems. But going after the PS guys is kind of silly because how many teams have great talent on the PS? Its sort of the nature of the PS that you have guys that aren't terrific - otherwise they'd be with the big team on Sunday.
I'd just like for Banks to get after the coaches once in a while. He always bags on the players, which is like shooting fish in a barrel. Why not talk about the coaches Carl?
Take out taxes, his agent's fee and assorted other stuff, and that isn't much at all.
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I have heard him go after coaches. not so much TC, but quinn for sure. He has criticized Fewell often (last week this team doesn't know how to blitz). He has been critical of gilbride in the past as well.
I have not heard him go after TC, tho.
Look at these guys that make the team year after year, but never dress. there is a disconnect
But I would be surprised if he did not have some real inside knowledge regarding the workings of this team - in the locker room, on the practice field, game time, and after the game too. One could argue his broadcasting abilities, whatever.
I take his comments as pretty close to the truth. In my view, the reasonable assumption, I believe, is that he is pretty much on the mark in regards to his comments on how the team functions.
The more I think about it, the more I tend to agree - I'll always be a loyal Coughlin fan, but I'm sitting here thinking...Parcells wouldn't stand for shit like this, he used to threaten to cut guys regularly
Trouble is, in the salary cap age, it's not as easy as it used to be to just cut guys when you can't spend much to replace them
Lewis said the Giants were playing "Book Coverage" they went to their zones by the book, but weren't looking around for anyone to cover. I'm not a fan of Lewis, but I thought he was spot on. Too many times we saw LB's or DB's dropping back and letting guys roam free. Herzlich has been guilty of that on too many occasions.
Hosley is only here bc the position was devastated by injuries so he's a better option than most guys off the street.
I don't think it's fair for him to put Robinson into that category though. Sure he's been frustrating as a 3rd round pick who has done little to date but I wouldn't question his effort and desire to succeed. He just doesn't appear to have the mental capacity to "put it all together". He was the 3rd best TE this preseason and thus is the 3rd TE. He's played ok on special teams. Is he a disappointment? ABSOLUTELY but it's not like he didn't earn a spot on the roster this preseason.
I'm not saying what Carl says is wrong but it's a peripheral problem that ignores the core flaws of the Giants.
Anyone that's played high school football remembers there were always kids on the team that were along for the ride and the varsity jacket (like Brewer). Sure, they suck and are an embarrassment but they don't affect locker room leadership or culture. You simply ignore those guys. Carl is just blowing a lot of hot air, as he often does, even if eloquently.
More importantly, the Giants have been historically a player friendly organization, keeping guys too long(DD eg., even Will the Thrill) to the detriment of the team success.
Once a Giant.... has its cost.
Immediately cutting a Charles James(I'm not promoting CJ) but keeping a Brewer is borderline lunacy.
Fear can be great motivation.
He is not collecting that money. He's on practice squad. That means around $100K.
that was 1990
For those blasting FatMan, you are missing the point. Yes, the money in question is a lot for most people. But, it also may be all the money this guy ever sees from football. After that, he is on his own. Sure, he has a great start, but after a few years could be left with no viable option to make that much money over the next 5 years, let alone a single year.
That was 1990 you dope!
I'm not defending it or justifying the logic but just pointing out that there is a reason guys like Brewer hang around rather than signing veterans as backups.
as to money. true that mid round picks are cheaper than veteren backups, but UDFA are cheaper than that. also the new model where veteran minimums count less then then cash value against the cap has mitigated that to some degree.
Well if UDFAs are a better options than a draft pick, that's an indictment of those picking the players, not the player themselves.
By the way although Parcells didn't cut Lionel Manuel until 1990, he did get rid of starting receiver Bobby Johnson shortly after they won the SB in '87...
But as a radio guy, I don't like Carl at all. He talks in platitudes, never really saying too much. And he never calls out the coaches. This past week he was going on about the guys on the practice squad at the end of the Colts game. But he was really picking up on something said by Howard Cross. Cross was talking about how Chad Bratzke came up to the team from the PS and how NYG should jettison the guys they have there and bring in some new challengers.
Anyway, its pretty clear there are personnel problems. But going after the PS guys is kind of silly because how many teams have great talent on the PS? Its sort of the nature of the PS that you have guys that aren't terrific - otherwise they'd be with the big team on Sunday.
I'd just like for Banks to get after the coaches once in a while. He always bags on the players, which is like shooting fish in a barrel. Why not talk about the coaches Carl?
Banks calls them out as much as he is allowed since he works for the team