So,
I have a connection within the Giants organization, who hooks me up with pre-game field passes every time I can see them when they are on the road - once in Denver, once in Arizona, and most recently today in Century Link field.
Met and talked with Josh Brown, Weatherford, Odell Beckham Jr's Dad (no kidding), Zak DeOssie (who is a real prick btw) and actually met and talked with Jerry Reese for about 5-10 minutes before the game today too.
First of all, he's a very nice guy. Approachable, polite, and you can just tell how much he cares about this team. Unfortunately I told him I had a "good feeling" about the game, that perhaps NY would pull it out. He did too - he felt that they had a real shot if they could run the ball and get some turnovers. The poor guy, you could just see it in his eyes when he responded: "We just need one win man, just need to get that win today." I could really see in that statement how bad Reese was hurting to get back in the winners column.
Anyway, we talked about the Seattle D, Odell, etc. Then, he introduced me to Odell's Dad, and Jerry's sister was also on the field. Nice gal...
So I walk over to the sideline because the whole team then came out for pre-game warm-ups. Jerry's sister happened to be watching too, and was right next to me. I told her, "You know, I feel bad for Jerry, because he gets a lot of sh!t from a lot of people." Regardless of whether you (BBI) agree with that statement or not, whether it is warranted - he can't control injuries, and he can't control who Coughlin plays and who he doesn't play. I've heard it all - good and bad about his draft classes - I get it.
SO here is the interesting part - his sister said: "Yeah, it's a rebuilding year - just a rebuilding year." I inquired a little further and asked what she meant by that. Her response essentially was that Eli is playing well in 2014, that they really hoped he'd return to responsible football, and that he has excelled in the new offense. But outside of him and JPP, they really have no supporting cast and they know that (especially with all of the injuries-Jennings, Cruz, Beason, Schwartz). They had this plan for 2014, and they couldn't even see if the ingredients they went out and obtained were going to work because everyone has gone to IR. Thurmond III, the O-line being hurt before the year started, Jennings, Cruz, Beason, all the CB's, the RB's and Odell being hurt for the first two months, etc...
Like many on this site, I hope for the best every Sunday, but it was very eye-opening to hear that those very high up inside the organization already know the reality of what is on the roster and that eventuality of this year is pretty much that it is over.
So - just thought I'd relay that experience from today. As easy as it is to sit here and just trash Jerry Reese, I saw a sincere love for this team in his eyes today, and in how he expressed himself, and how much he really cares about the New York Giants. For what its worth...it was a nice beginning to an otherwise disappointing outcome today.
I saw what you did there and I applaud and endorse it.
I.E. all the coaches are off the hook.
I still trust the Giants front office to do what it takes to finish this rebuild next year. Somehow the players have to avoid all these injuries though.
Nothing they can't get out of if they need to. And he has the legs of a much younger RB.
He posted his experience and impression; what you take from it is totally on you.
Yes Absolutely and he always does this. He needs to be let go!
Yeah, Ernie was really nailing the draft before Jerry took it over, right?
It was a 4 year $10 million contract that results in cap savings if he is cut anytime after the first year. That is cheap for a "bridge" RB during a rebuild.
He's got a quirky sense of humor that I think may be sometimes come off as being curt, but I am willing to bet that he was likely making fun of Weatherford and not the fan. Of course I'm biased because I know him, but I'd hate to think he wasn't getting a fair shot here because of a 30 second encounter.
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BS to me. They gave a 29-year-old RB a nice sized contract. Come on...
Nothing they can't get out of if they need to. And he has the legs of a much younger RB.
those legs haven't been on the field in weeks. And it's not like he's been durable in the past. If Reese is actually trying to say he planned this as a rebuilding year from the start he's full of shit.
He posted his experience and impression; what you take from it is totally on you.
Bill L, thank you. Saves me the trouble of trying to find a nice way to say it.
This too ^^^
Don't know why people feel compelled to act like that. Maybe its an inner need to show how superior they are to the rest of us
Hunter - thanks so much for relaying the information and your experience! Bet you had a blast in the 1st half of the game :)
Given that we are at a point where where are head's are about to explode in anger about the state of the team, hopefully, people will cool down in a few days . . . Nice to personalize the figures behind the scenes and hear some insight.
I don't see how anyone can argue with the point that a. it was a rebuilding year, and b. the most frustrating piece of it is we can't even evaluate all the free agent talent due to the ridiculous amount of injuries. This year has essentially been wasted.
All in all, I'm enjoying watching Eli regain his form and OBJ break out. I'm hoping we get to see some of the rest of the bench develop with actual game time. Hopefully it will reveal some gems or deepen our resilience in years to come.
But sheesh, it was frustrating, even when the game was tied, to see the Seattle defense make plays in space, and the Giants defense entirely incapable of doing so. I don't think that's effort, it's more likely talent, back to Eric's original premise. We need more players with physical skills.
I am slightly eased at the thought that this season was looked upon as a rebuild year. We are in transition for hopefully better things, but we definitely need some more coaching improvements. The defense is broken & has been for some time. We don't scare anyone defensively - haven't for a long time. This needs to change. I am also still seeing too many communication errors between Eli & the receivers.
As much as it will hurt to see, we may want to go into full evaluation mode for the rest of the season. We are not competing for the division anymore.
He told me on the offseason that following last season, the inside circles of the Giants agreed that moving forward was essentially a two-year plan, with the focus of 2014 being to get Eli and the offense back on track with a new coordinator and contend for a playoff spot, with the plan being that 2015 would be a year they could win the division and make another run.
Now, it may all sound like BS and at this point should somewhat be thrown out the window because we are not any better of a team than we were last year, but I found it interesting. Was also told firmly that the Giants are committed to Coughlin for 2015 as well, so long that he himself doesn't retire after this year.
Again, take it for what it's worth...
Maybe 1-3 months later (it's been a while) I did it again. Something like "Big win, man!" A bit of a Facebook faux pas? Sure. I was 22 years old, he accepted my friend request. I was a big fan of the team, so yeah, I wrote on the guy's wall twice. Big fucking deal.
He then proceeded to send me a private message: "dude, stop writing on my wall."
So yeah, Headhunter's evaluation of him being a prick doesn't surprise me. I've been salty on him ever since.
Re DeOssie: Is this all so hard to figure out? I'm sure he a really good guy a majority of the time and once a while he's a dick. He just a regular fucking guy like every other poster on this board. Not much of a revelation.
Maybe 1-3 months later (it's been a while) I did it again. Something like "Big win, man!" A bit of a Facebook faux pas? Sure. I was 22 years old, he accepted my friend request. I was a big fan of the team, so yeah, I wrote on the guy's wall twice. Big fucking deal.
He then proceeded to send me a private message: "dude, stop writing on my wall."
So yeah, Headhunter's evaluation of him being a prick doesn't surprise me. I've been salty on him ever since.
Hahahaha!
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I Facebook friended him and wrote on his wall something like "Welcome to the Giants!!"
Maybe 1-3 months later (it's been a while) I did it again. Something like "Big win, man!" A bit of a Facebook faux pas? Sure. I was 22 years old, he accepted my friend request. I was a big fan of the team, so yeah, I wrote on the guy's wall twice. Big fucking deal.
He then proceeded to send me a private message: "dude, stop writing on my wall."
So yeah, Headhunter's evaluation of him being a prick doesn't surprise me. I've been salty on him ever since.
Hahahaha!
So FUNNY all this DeOssie stuff is being discussed today. Was watching the miserable game yestrday and when the game was well out of hand and we punted, DeOssie made a tackle on specials and while still ontop of the guy, he got right up in the guys face and was running his mouth. Was thinking that he must be a real prick talking trash down 3 TDs.
Maybe 1-3 months later (it's been a while) I did it again. Something like "Big win, man!" A bit of a Facebook faux pas? Sure. I was 22 years old, he accepted my friend request. I was a big fan of the team, so yeah, I wrote on the guy's wall twice. Big fucking deal.
He then proceeded to send me a private message: "dude, stop writing on my wall."
So yeah, Headhunter's evaluation of him being a prick doesn't surprise me. I've been salty on him ever since.
lol, maybe this was before the facebook feature where you can restrict certain friends from adding to your wall.
in any event, yeah, sounds like he has moments of being fan-friendly combined with some quick tongued reactions.
I'd find it a bit more plausible if the other times I've seen Hunter post I didn't see things like this:
I agree with Hoge 100%
Hunter : 9/3/2014 11:27 am : link
Manziel is a punk, and has conducted himself off the field in a way detrimental to the team.
Tell me, would or have the likes of Montana, Simms, Elway, Kosar, Young, Manning (both of them), Wilson, RGIII, Newton - has any of the these QB's (a.k.a. Team Leaders or the Face of the Team) with such blatant disregard for personal conduct?
Not only that - he's a rookie. Rookies shut up, for an entire year, and learn the game. It's pretty simple.
I hope Manziel breaks his leg worse than Theisman
You're all free to believe it though.
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=500590 - ( New Window )
He told me on the offseason that following last season, the inside circles of the Giants agreed that moving forward was essentially a two-year plan, with the focus of 2014 being to get Eli and the offense back on track with a new coordinator and contend for a playoff spot, with the plan being that 2015 would be a year they could win the division and make another run.
Now, it may all sound like BS and at this point should somewhat be thrown out the window because we are not any better of a team than we were last year, but I found it interesting. Was also told firmly that the Giants are committed to Coughlin for 2015 as well, so long that he himself doesn't retire after this year.
Again, take it for what it's worth...
The foundation of the team underneath was rotted, and pretty clearly wasn't improved a great deal with the past 1-2 offseasons. Injuries reveal this, paper thin depth, a pile of failed draft picks and careers lost to injuries.
They basically tried to retool while adding to the foundation underneath. Injuries ruined what competitive chances they might have had, but imo, this was a 8-9 win team at best on Opening Day.
I have a picture for you... just don't know how to post it
All I ever hear is how good a GM he is and how well the Giants are run. Where exactly is all this crap you hear him getting?
Sorry, I thought you suggested he likely confused him with his Dads name and he took exception. I must have read it wrong.
I felt like he could have handled it better.