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At game today - met and talked to Jerry Reese

Hunter : 11/10/2014 12:36 am
So,

I have a connection within the Giants organization, who hooks me up with pre-game field passes every time I can see them when they are on the road - once in Denver, once in Arizona, and most recently today in Century Link field.

Met and talked with Josh Brown, Weatherford, Odell Beckham Jr's Dad (no kidding), Zak DeOssie (who is a real prick btw) and actually met and talked with Jerry Reese for about 5-10 minutes before the game today too.

First of all, he's a very nice guy. Approachable, polite, and you can just tell how much he cares about this team. Unfortunately I told him I had a "good feeling" about the game, that perhaps NY would pull it out. He did too - he felt that they had a real shot if they could run the ball and get some turnovers. The poor guy, you could just see it in his eyes when he responded: "We just need one win man, just need to get that win today." I could really see in that statement how bad Reese was hurting to get back in the winners column.

Anyway, we talked about the Seattle D, Odell, etc. Then, he introduced me to Odell's Dad, and Jerry's sister was also on the field. Nice gal...

So I walk over to the sideline because the whole team then came out for pre-game warm-ups. Jerry's sister happened to be watching too, and was right next to me. I told her, "You know, I feel bad for Jerry, because he gets a lot of sh!t from a lot of people." Regardless of whether you (BBI) agree with that statement or not, whether it is warranted - he can't control injuries, and he can't control who Coughlin plays and who he doesn't play. I've heard it all - good and bad about his draft classes - I get it.

SO here is the interesting part - his sister said: "Yeah, it's a rebuilding year - just a rebuilding year." I inquired a little further and asked what she meant by that. Her response essentially was that Eli is playing well in 2014, that they really hoped he'd return to responsible football, and that he has excelled in the new offense. But outside of him and JPP, they really have no supporting cast and they know that (especially with all of the injuries-Jennings, Cruz, Beason, Schwartz). They had this plan for 2014, and they couldn't even see if the ingredients they went out and obtained were going to work because everyone has gone to IR. Thurmond III, the O-line being hurt before the year started, Jennings, Cruz, Beason, all the CB's, the RB's and Odell being hurt for the first two months, etc...

Like many on this site, I hope for the best every Sunday, but it was very eye-opening to hear that those very high up inside the organization already know the reality of what is on the roster and that eventuality of this year is pretty much that it is over.

So - just thought I'd relay that experience from today. As easy as it is to sit here and just trash Jerry Reese, I saw a sincere love for this team in his eyes today, and in how he expressed himself, and how much he really cares about the New York Giants. For what its worth...it was a nice beginning to an otherwise disappointing outcome today.
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kepler20 : 11/10/2014 12:39 am : link
We ought to really rebuild by IR'ing the HC, DC, and ST coaches.
Thanks for sharing...very interesting insight  
John in No Cal : 11/10/2014 12:39 am : link
Out of curiosity, what did DeOssie do?
So there was a fan that called out to DeOssie  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 12:43 am : link
He was an older guy, and Steve Weatherford was close to Zak. The fan yelled: "Steve, can you please come over and take a picture with my kids?" Zak turned his head and said: "Who is Steve huh?"

IN defense to the fan, Weatherford was close, and the first thing I thought was the guy probably said Steve because of his Dad who played for the Giants for so long - shit, I didn't flinch at all when he yelled it because I too this Steve DeOssie all the time when I see the name "DeOssie."

He was just a real d!ck about it. And the guy's kids were really disappointed.

Come on Zak - you're the long snapper. Give the guy a break.
I'd like NOT to think that....  
MOOPS : 11/10/2014 12:43 am : link
JPP is the cornerstone of the Defense.
MOOPS  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 12:44 am : link
I know - but who else do we have?

I was in the 4th row today, and I saw A LOT from AYERS JR.

When Eli threw that pick, Ayers ran out to the field, hands frantically waving at his defense on the sideline coming out as if to say: "GUYS, lets GO!! LET'S GO LET's GO!"

He was really impressive. But like you - who the hell do we have?
Thanks for sharing.  
bceagle05 : 11/10/2014 12:45 am : link
It's certainly had the feel of a rebuilding year since the offseason. Too much overhaul to expect anything significant this year. A little more progress would be nice though.
So JR told you he knew this was a rebuild year?  
bradshaw44 : 11/10/2014 12:47 am : link
Or his sister did?

Yeah  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 12:48 am : link
You see teams like AZ, having low picks for three to four years straight...all of the sudden their secondary is ridiculously impressive due to 3x's 1st rd picks, and now you can see that they are strong.

It just sucks that in 2012, we literally lost our 1st RD pick, reached on Pugh last year (insofar as he really should be playing Guard), it's going to take at least two years to fill all of these holes.

And, the team has to have two solid drafts from front to back - in order to compete.
sister did  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 12:49 am : link
HIs sister did - because she was lamenting how Jerry tries not to read all the bad press, because it really affects him.
looks like we are going OT  
kepler20 : 11/10/2014 12:53 am : link
move Pugh inside
Did you happen to ask if their ancestors were  
montanagiant : 11/10/2014 12:53 am : link
Patriots, 49er fans, Sioux Indian Chief, or a Redskin?
Link - ( New Window )
Montana  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 1:03 am : link
Yes. That was the first thing I asked him. He's planning on reaching out to you directly to get your advice on what he should tell Dan Snyder with respect to renaming his team.
He's a good guy for sure  
bignygfan : 11/10/2014 1:03 am : link
I still believe in the leadership of this club.

This is quite obviously not a good football team.
Bigny  
Hunter : 11/10/2014 1:04 am : link
You have to admit, in the first half - it sort of reminded me of 2012. There is hope there still
Which part of 2012?  
bignygfan : 11/10/2014 1:14 am : link
A little confused.
What kind of douchebag  
Sgrcts : 11/10/2014 1:21 am : link
Meets someone's sister and talks to her about people give her brother shit? You suck as a human being.
RE: Montana  
montanagiant : 11/10/2014 1:27 am : link
In comment 11969204 Hunter said:
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Yes. That was the first thing I asked him. He's planning on reaching out to you directly to get your advice on what he should tell Dan Snyder with respect to renaming his team.

Well obviously since all of those are excellent examples of the point you made..lol
RE: MOOPS  
MOOPS : 11/10/2014 1:59 am : link
In comment 11969190 Hunter said:
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I know - but who else do we have?

I was in the 4th row today, and I saw A LOT from AYERS JR.

When Eli threw that pick, Ayers ran out to the field, hands frantically waving at his defense on the sideline coming out as if to say: "GUYS, lets GO!! LET'S GO LET's GO!"

He was really impressive. But like you - who the hell do we have?


IMO, JPP is a very good DE, but not elite and I seriously doubt he ever will be. A couple holes in his game I don't think he can overcome. Also more of a kid in a man's body. And we'll probably have to overpay to keep him.
On the D side, the only established leaders are Beason and Rolle, and for different reasons neither may be back next year.
As much as anything else, injuries seriously screwed us this year, but a lot of the fixes hoped for were only temporary anyway. We definitely are in rebuilding mode, and I doubt more and more as time goes by if JR is capable of fixing the team.
Definitely time for a good housecleaning, TBD how high up it begins.
I've met Zac  
Big Rick in FL : 11/10/2014 2:42 am : link
About 10 times since his rookie year and he might be one of the nicest guys on the Giants. He is not a dick at all.
DeOssie  
Mike from SI : 11/10/2014 2:43 am : link
is absolutely NOT a prick. You might think about not judging people off of 5 second interactions you observed them have.
When JPP had 16.5 sacks, he was elite.  
Reese's Pieces : 11/10/2014 2:50 am : link
The question is, what has happened since.
I think Prince  
Jay in Toronto : 11/10/2014 4:40 am : link
Was our most consistent starter this year.

Injuries have been worse on the D. The other fact is that we have a mediocre OL. Perhaps Flaharty is part of the problem?
RE: What kind of douchebag  
Jints in Carolina : 11/10/2014 4:48 am : link
In comment 11969212 Sgrcts said:
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Meets someone's sister and talks to her about people give her brother shit? You suck as a human being.


Wow overreact much?
My problem with this is that rebuilding was evident  
MikeN in Ottawa : 11/10/2014 5:07 am : link
three years ago especially on the offensive line. To now say this is a rebuilding year and so forth sounds like political grandstanding to me and trying to save their butts.

I just do not buy what JR is selling. Glad he is a nice guy but frankly not sure there is much to be hopeful for at this point in time...outside of Beckham.
I'm so glad  
BigBlueCane : 11/10/2014 5:19 am : link
that it isn't the 80's anymore and football isn't won or lost in the trenches.
What a load of nonsense  
Sammo284 : 11/10/2014 5:29 am : link
No way is any of this true.
Look at Dallas' D last year vs. this year  
RobCarpenter : 11/10/2014 5:30 am : link
Coaching matters. Fewell needs to be fired, and soon. That's something Reese can do.

I'm not sure how injuries to the secondary mean the team cant defend the run.
Reese  
Sammo284 : 11/10/2014 5:33 am : link
Largely inherited an Accorsi built core. He hasn't shown he can GM and to be honest doesn't deserve another opportunity.
So he's a nice guy and really cares...  
silverfox : 11/10/2014 5:43 am : link
That and $1.50 gets you a bottle of water. This is a business and half empty stadiums with a resume of classic blow out games gets most GMs fired.
RE: I'm so glad  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/10/2014 8:14 am : link
In comment 11969263 BigBlueCane said:
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that it isn't the 80's anymore and football isn't won or lost in the trenches.


I saw what you did there and I applaud and endorse it.
of course it's a rebuilding year  
fkap : 11/10/2014 8:25 am : link
unfortunately, we haven't seen much sign of rebuilding.
I'm sure Reese set  
540NYFAN : 11/10/2014 8:30 am : link
Aside 10 minutes to speak with you. After you were finished speaking with him did you fly over to the White House and brief Obama on Isis and ebola?
Zak DeOssie is one of the friendliest, fan welcoming  
fbdad : 11/10/2014 8:33 am : link
players I've ever met. Maybe he doesn't want to be bothered by nit wits who've worked their connections to get on the sideline while he's preparing for work. If you thought Zak was a prick, that says more about you than about him.
Hmmm...  
Model4001 : 11/10/2014 8:34 am : link
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They had this plan for 2014, and they couldn't even see if the ingredients they went out and obtained were going to work because everyone has gone to IR.


I.E. all the coaches are off the hook.
the stuff about "rebuilding" sounds like  
Enzo : 11/10/2014 8:37 am : link
BS to me. They gave a 29-year-old RB a nice sized contract. Come on...
Seemed to me that at the start  
mrvax : 11/10/2014 8:38 am : link
of this season, we had so much to replace, it was a 2 year rebuild. I had no idea that all these injuries would occur. I thought we had an 8-8 team for 2014 and then get into the win column in 2015.

I still trust the Giants front office to do what it takes to finish this rebuild next year. Somehow the players have to avoid all these injuries though.

Not sure which thread to ask..  
Bill L : 11/10/2014 8:41 am : link
but since someone mentioned Fewell's name...did it seem to anyone else that he smiled much too much when the team did stupid stuff?
RE: the stuff about  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/10/2014 8:45 am : link
In comment 11969425 Enzo said:
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BS to me. They gave a 29-year-old RB a nice sized contract. Come on...


Nothing they can't get out of if they need to. And he has the legs of a much younger RB.
Geez, I'd normally kill for some personal information  
Bill L : 11/10/2014 8:45 am : link
Why does everyone here have to be a total asshole? You guys...most of...some of you should be smart enough to understand that what you're getting is a subjective snapshot and personal impression of what one person's experience was and be able to figure out on your own if it's representative or not. Why don't you provide your conversations with Reese or his sister or Tommer or whoever? I'd say be grateful for what you get and use your brains to figure out how meaningful it is or not.

He posted his experience and impression; what you take from it is totally on you.
RE: Not sure which thread to ask..  
nicky43 : 11/10/2014 8:47 am : link
In comment 11969434 Bill L said:
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but since someone mentioned Fewell's name...did it seem to anyone else that he smiled much too much when the team did stupid stuff?


Yes Absolutely and he always does this. He needs to be let go!
RE: Reese  
Greg from LI : 11/10/2014 8:47 am : link
In comment 11969268 Sammo284 said:
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Largely inherited an Accorsi built core. He hasn't shown he can GM and to be honest doesn't deserve another opportunity.


Yeah, Ernie was really nailing the draft before Jerry took it over, right?
RE: the stuff about  
Scyber : 11/10/2014 8:50 am : link
In comment 11969425 Enzo said:
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BS to me. They gave a 29-year-old RB a nice sized contract. Come on...


It was a 4 year $10 million contract that results in cap savings if he is cut anytime after the first year. That is cheap for a "bridge" RB during a rebuild.
Zak should be a raging prick pregame.  
WideRight : 11/10/2014 8:55 am : link
Context matters.
At game Today  
nfjints : 11/10/2014 8:57 am : link
You better hope your connection doesn't get fired too. I've had encounters with DeOssie at training camp in albany and he can be a dick.
I appreciate the OP  
SwirlingEddie : 11/10/2014 8:59 am : link
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
so...  
kotter9 : 11/10/2014 9:20 am : link
I know Zak pretty well... He could be one of the nicest guys I know. I've seen him go out of his way to meet with fans and kids, and usually wherever we go there is somebody who will bring their kids to him, and he will spend time with them. But before a game, that is prep-time... they've got things that need to get done, and he's all business (as I would expect all of these guys to be).

He's got a quirky sense of humor that I think may be sometimes come off as being curt, but I am willing to bet that he was likely making fun of Weatherford and not the fan. Of course I'm biased because I know him, but I'd hate to think he wasn't getting a fair shot here because of a 30 second encounter.

/2-cents
RE: RE: the stuff about  
Enzo : 11/10/2014 9:28 am : link
In comment 11969441 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11969425 Enzo said:


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BS to me. They gave a 29-year-old RB a nice sized contract. Come on...



Nothing they can't get out of if they need to. And he has the legs of a much younger RB.

those legs haven't been on the field in weeks. And it's not like he's been durable in the past. If Reese is actually trying to say he planned this as a rebuilding year from the start he's full of shit.
Thanks for sharing your experience  
FranknWeezer : 11/10/2014 9:34 am : link
I really don't get all the bashing that the OP is receiving. Personally, I like a BBI where people feel free to share stuff like this. Some of the dickheaded replies to this thread are reminiscent of the treatment that ran all the good insiders off the board.
for those who say it didn't happen  
oghwga : 11/10/2014 9:45 am : link
I used to have a minor connection to the team and had some access to the facilities and Reese and others are certainly approachable in the way he describes. It's a very friendly organization.
RE: Geez, I'd normally kill for some personal information  
River Mike : 11/10/2014 9:46 am : link
In comment 11969443 Bill L said:
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Why does everyone here have to be a total asshole? You guys...most of...some of you should be smart enough to understand that what you're getting is a subjective snapshot and personal impression of what one person's experience was and be able to figure out on your own if it's representative or not. Why don't you provide your conversations with Reese or his sister or Tommer or whoever? I'd say be grateful for what you get and use your brains to figure out how meaningful it is or not.

He posted his experience and impression; what you take from it is totally on you.


Bill L, thank you. Saves me the trouble of trying to find a nice way to say it.
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