Michael Kay Show YES @TMKSonYES · 3m 3 minutes ago
Harry Carson "if you're not gonna give your all then get the hell off the field" @Giants
Michael Kay Show YES @TMKSonYES · 5m 5 minutes ago
More Carson "when you get your face rubbed in it, the best thing is you've got next week, this is a test of character" (Sunday vs the 49ers)
Michael Kay Show YES @TMKSonYES · 6m 6 minutes ago
Harry Carson on @YESNetwork "Some of the guys aren't playing until the whistle blows"
Michael Kay Show YES @TMKSonYES · 1m 1 minute ago
Great guest booking by @ryanthurley ....Harry Carson really dropped the hammer on the @Giants and their effort on Sunday.....Wow
Before then, I thought we were just getting beat.
the truth is, they really could not stop Seattle in either half. Seattle stopped themselves in the first half with all the TOs.
If the Giants had recovered those two fumbles in the second half, nobody would be talking about their quitting. Also both those fumbles were caused by the tackler ripping the ball out, so I don't see how that is quitting.
Giants also quit under Handley and in Reeves's and Fassell's final seasons.
And what happened next? Those coaches were fired
the truth is, they really could not stop Seattle in either half. Seattle stopped themselves in the first half with all the TOs.
If the Giants had recovered those two fumbles in the second half, nobody would be talking about their quitting. Also both those fumbles were caused by the tackler ripping the ball out, so I don't see how that is quitting.
That is right..Seattle was moving the ball in the first half and thankfully the QB made a few bad throws. Still, they were able to run right over us. In the second half two guys were able to strip the ball but not before the ball carrier ran over three of our other guys first.
All there is to it.
Apparently Reece doesnt think we need them .
Agree that they can play as hard as they can but
the talent isnt there . When they do show
up the offense takes the day off .
Its Like the 70's all over again , thought we
were beyond that .
Chip Kelley and that smirk .
Detroit Going for two up by 30 or something like that .
standing at Midfield in Dallas and getting our asses
handed to Us . Colts Defense humilating us .
Not sure I even want to watch the rematch with Philly .
Bowman ducked from engaging Lynch on his TD.
Best in the business.
This must have driven Harry Carson crazy
Bowman ducked from engaging Lynch on his TD.
TWICE. look at the goal line run as well... dude pulled up big time.
Thought they could build on some positive things from last season.
I thought they would be the strength of the team.
Shows what I know.
This must have driven Harry Carson crazy
The way Rolle gets "fooled" also looks like BS to me. I think he quit on that play too.
I've been a big Rolle fan over the years but I think there's a reason why Rolle never misses games and plays like that are the reason, IMO. He plays very "safe" sometimes. If you know what I mean.
Anyway.. .I thought guys on the defense 100% quit in the 2nd half of that game. No doubt about it.
Quote:
at Bowman's "effort" here? It was a 7-point game at this point. And this looked a lot worse on the broadcast from the angle where you see Bowman not move and clearly wanted no part of Lynch.
This must have driven Harry Carson crazy
The way Rolle gets "fooled" also looks like BS to me. I think he quit on that play too.
I've been a big Rolle fan over the years but I think there's a reason why Rolle never misses games and plays like that are the reason, IMO. He plays very "safe" sometimes. If you know what I mean.
Anyway.. .I thought guys on the defense 100% quit in the 2nd half of that game. No doubt about it.
Yup! And some people, are using Eli's int to be their scapegoat. The defense was pussified, way before that pick was thrown.
They did let that guy walk into the endzone on the last TD. And, yes, that was infuriating at the time. But it was infuriating because as fans were pissed at the overall performance of the team. That TD was ultimately meaningless and Seattle very likely would have scored a TD on the next play or two even if the guy was stopped short of the goaline.
So, it was really just symbolic.
I don't think Bowman and Rolle and whoever are going to come out soft this week just because they didn't make that play. Agst 49ers, they will play hard until the game is out of reach.
And actually the coaching staff should have put backups in. I mean why was Eli out there, risking injury, in a game that was clearly lost? And why wasn't Moore in instead of JPP or Kiwi?
It's important to note that Bowman made more than one business decision. Watch the first TD....Coughlin gave him the business for his "effort" on Lynch's goalline run when Bowman gave a chicken shit effort to tackle Lynch. Then it happened again later in the game. It was not just one isolated play.
The DL couldn't tackle Lynch either.
I'm confused about your pt. Are you saying it didn't happen?
i brought up a couple names of announcers who would have mentioned it (al michaels used to love to break deion sanders balls about it)
but zack bowman is not deion sanders.
I posted the .gif of it above, it was worse on the slo-mo replay they showed during the game. they showed bowman just staying right where he was and not moving from the wider angle.
1Q - FIGHT
2Q - FIGHT
3Q - FIGHT
(INT)
4Q - shit the bed
Or maybe I'm delusional.
I remember Summerall and he or Madden would have said something like "one team's not trying hard out there"
Best in the business.
That was the Giants..those names rolled off the tongue ..Banks, Reasons, Taylor, Carson..already sounds like a punch
If SF comes to our house and wins by 17 or more (blowout loss) you have to start looking for a new coaching staff, GM, scouting department. I mean, you have to make a list of who is playing and who has "quit" too and purge them from the team at season's end or before, if possible.
Having said all that, I think the Giants have a chance cause they are home and SF isn't what it once was. We'll see how it goes.
Did they quit against the Colts? Detroit? Dallas? No, they just stunk.
They can play as hard as they want, they just aren't very good.
Giving up 177 yds in the fourth quarter on how many? a dozen running plays? That quitting. No other answer.
The stink because they quit and they quit cause they stink.
Doesn't matter, they know Coughlin won't play the backups - especially if they are rookies/second year guys.
It's against Coughlin's code.
The DL couldn't tackle Lynch either.
That's not the point. The point is that he didn't even try. He purposely avoided even an attempt. It was embarrassing & told me all I needed to know about the defense & their motivation on Sunday.
Or maybe I'm delusional.
Just try to make a freaking tackle!
Quote:
Lets be honest - Bowman is not tackling Lynch who has a head of steam and outweight him by 30 pounds. 99% of CB's in his position are not either
The DL couldn't tackle Lynch either.
That's not the point. The point is that he didn't even try. He purposely avoided even an attempt. It was embarrassing & told me all I needed to know about the defense & their motivation on Sunday.
Is anybody here old enough to remember Spider Lockhart stopping Larry Czonka at the goal line?
Defensive Coordinator?
Special Teams Coordinator?
And which players are on the chopping block? I saw in another post where someone suggested JPP and Antrel Rolle - given their price tags and their recent performance, I can't disagree.